Christopher Judge and David Read review Teal’c’s journey through Stargate SG-1 via a series of production art images, with brand new anecdotes from the set of the series. See what Teal’c looked like before the actor himself was hired!

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Timecodes
0:00 – Slate…
0:21 – Opening Credits
0:47 – Teal’c Concept Art from “Children of the Gods”
2:11 – Radical Jaffa Helmet Concept Art from “Children of the Gods”
3:31 – Teal’c Judged in “Cor-Ai”
4:30 – Labyrinth from “Thor’s Hammer”
6:15 – Glider Staff Weapon from “The Fifth Man”
8:35 – Teal’c’s Transformation from “Bane”
9:56 – Needle-Threader from “Into the Fire”
11:34 – X-301 from “Tangent”
13:24 – The Land of Light from “Broca Divide”
15:57 – “Anubis’s Planet in “Redemption, Part 2”
17:20 – Gifts for Christopher
17:41 – End Credits

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TRANSCRIPT
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David Read:
Season Two of Dialing Home with Christopher Judge. Help me. Help meee.

David Read:
I have some surprises for you.

Christopher Judge:
Oh my God. These are the original…

David Read:
The original concepts for Teal’c.

Christopher Judge:
…for what the Jaffa. Wow. Look at that.

David Read:
Isn’t that something?

Christopher Judge:
Wow. Look. The ears. Can you see that? The dangling earlobes. You’ve heard us or me reference the earlobes. That’s what they look like. Those dangling earlobes.

David Read:
It came a long way. The tattoo. How long has it been since you’ve seen these?

Christopher Judge:
21 years.

David Read:
It’s a long way. Because you were talking about, like, there were certain element that we just couldn’t… You’re glad that they didn’t deal with because they would have been a pain in the butt every day.

Christopher Judge:
This was my question for a long time on the convention circuit, what this is called. It’s called a pastiche. The more you know.

David Read:
Let’s put this here.

Christopher Judge:
I love looking at these. I can see how I got the job. Let’s just get the weirdest looking guy we can find.

David Read:
I have a few more to share with you. You wanna see?

Christopher Judge:
Absolutely.

David Read:
I didn’t really prepare myself for picking these up very well.

Christopher Judge:
Oh, is this the original?

David Read:
That’s one of them. They were going with original concepts, some more outrageous than others. But can you imagine if you had to have been inside something like that?

Christopher Judge:
Well, it couldn’t have been much worse than what we came with… What was… Because the original helmet that was built, they had only tested it on Ray Douglas’ brother, but with guys holding it.

David Read:
Are we talking about the pneumatic one?

Christopher Judge:
The pneumatic one.

David Read:
Ultra heavy one that you could shoot from forward.

Christopher Judge:
Eighty pounds and it had no neck support. So, what people didn’t see was me trying to balance this thing and swerving all over the place.

David Read:
Because they would cut when it would go back. There was a separate one. But the pneumatic one was actually a heavy piece. We sold it.

Christopher Judge:
Yeah, very, very heavy. But looking at this, I’m glad we did go with that because this one, that would have weighed.

David Read:
Can you imagine? Unless it was made of something else. So, I went through the library of the…

Christopher Judge:
How do you get all this?

David Read:
I’ve hung on to a lot of stuff.

Christopher Judge:
Really?

David Read:
Yeah, there’s a lot of stuff that’s out there. A lot of it, before we sold, we digitally scanned, or I took aside and made a lot of copies for events like this. Ready to go through memory lane?

Christopher Judge:
Cor-ai.

David Read:
Your trial.

Christopher Judge:
I remember…

David Read:
Isn’t that something?

Christopher Judge:
I remember rehearsing this.

David Read:
It’s one of the greatest episodes of the show.

Christopher Judge:
Oh, thank you.

David Read:
Period.

Christopher Judge:
I remember Rick came out into the hall. I was reading lines, and I was very emotional, and Rick touched me and said… Because I had… Still, this was very early on… And said, “Save it for the takes.” And I said, “Well, no. I wanna get it out now because I will be too emotional to use any of it.” It won’t be the character. So, I wanted to expend all the emotion that this scene brought up for me. Wow. Cor-ai.

David Read:
Isn’t that cool? Another great one earlier on. I love this. You’re watch… Just hand it back. I’ll take it.

Christopher Judge:
Thor’s Hammer.

David Read:
In the chamber with James Earl Jones.

Christopher Judge:
Yes.

David Read:
The voice of James Earl Joens.

Christopher Judge:
Yes. That was one of the great gets of the first season.

David Read:
Wasn’t it terrific?

Christopher Judge:
That was one of the great gets of the first season. And that was because Michael Greenburg had a personal relationship with James. And James actually cut his rate to $15,000 for half an hour. No, it was…

David Read:
This is a great Jack and Teal’c episode. The Unas is a myth, much like your vampire.

Christopher Judge:
Yes.

David Read:
So good.

Christopher Judge:
The makeup on that. The makeup on the Unas. He was actually…

David Read:
It’s the first we had seen Unas.

Christopher Judge:
Yes. And the actor that they hired…

David Read:
Big guy.

Christopher Judge:
Had played one of the Predators. Played one of the Predators. He was 6’11” and holy strong as hell. So, when we had these battle scenes…

David Read:
Because he pulls him around like a rag doll. And Teal’c is not small.

Christopher Judge:
Yeah, he really was pulling me around like a rag doll where… I forgot who directed that one. Maybe… Was that…? I can’t remember who directed it. But I would… No, I think Martin Wood was the first idea. I think I went to Martin, and I said, “Can you tell him this is acting? He doesn’t really… I can fake like it’s…” Because he was… The kid was strong.

David Read:
That’s insane. We talked about you having issues with the staff weapon. Now you get an uber-staff weapon. So, they take it from a glider.

Christopher Judge:
I remember when I first saw this.

David Read:
What a great prop.

Christopher Judge:
Yeah. But see, I loved it because I knew it would be limited in its use because it was so big. So, it was cool just to have it every once in a while. Not like the staff which was carried around all the time.

David Read:
You had it in that one and when you blew up Tanith.

Christopher Judge:
Yes.

David Read:
You were just randomly carrying it on that planet. I was, like, “Hey, it’s a great prop.” The artistry of these guys. These are Ken Rabehl early ones. Just great work. You and I have talked about this scene just a little bit.

Christopher Judge:
Oh yeah, Message in a Bottle.

David Read:
Tremendous sequence. I love that moment between Jack and Teal’c, the warriors. “Undomesticated equines cannot take me away.” “You told a joke, Teal’c. You’re a good man.” And Teal’c says back to him, “As are you my friend.”

Christopher Judge:
I remember I was expecting Rick to be really silly because they had him in this harness and so he was actually suspended there for a great part of the day. And I really expected him to not be in a good mood after a while. But he was in a really… It was like he enjoyed it. It was… I don’t know where I’m going with that.

David Read:
He enjoyed the process.

Christopher Judge:
He enjoyed the process of it, and he enjoyed… He’s so… I guess when you’re iconic, which… Let’s face it, he was MacGyver.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Christopher Judge:
Your acting chops kind of take a backseat to who you are as this character, and Rick’s chops were second to none. When he wanted to bring it, that cat could really bring it. And this is one of the times where I was just really blown away by his performance, was in that.

David Read:
Wow. That’s great. I’m sorry I had to bring this up but… What cool imagery. Have you seen all of these?

Christopher Judge:
I haven’t seen any. See, now, if I had seen this beforehand, maybe I wouldn’t be so willing to go, “Yeah, I can lay in one position for six hours at a time.”

David Read:
It’s a shame. It’s such a beautiful artwork from such an important part of your life and you never knew that it was… I’m assuming you assumed it was there. But this is just… This was so cool because it’s just… I loved, especially later on with the prop that they did, they could make an image of a prop or something like that on paper and the props department physically created it down to the minute detail. That’s extraordinary.

Christopher Judge:
It was crazy. This episode, it was… Probably couldn’t have been done later in the series because there’s no way I would have agreed to it. This was still in the days where I thought I could get fired. And it literally was…

David Read:
Couldn’t go to the bathroom.

Christopher Judge:
No, I had to lay in the same position from the start of the day to lunch. I would come out of it at lunch and then be put back into it for the rest of the day, which would be another six, seven hours. And holy crap, was that uncomfortable.

David Read:
One of the great moments of Don that you have not, and I have not discussed.

Christopher Judge:
The “yeehaw!”

David Read:
The “yeehaw!”

Christopher Judge:
I remember Donnie asking about this. He said, “Now…” in that great deliberate way, “Well…” He was probably a pilot, ex-pilot, so this would harken back to some of his exciting days. And I think General Hammond would be very excited to be flying this so I’m just gonna kind of go through the emotional rage.

David Read:
“Yeehaw” was not in the script?

Christopher Judge:
No.

David Read:
That’s fantastic.

Christopher Judge:
So, that’s why that look that they cut to…

David Read:
It cuts to you.

Christopher Judge:
It was real because I didn’t know he was doing it either.

David Read:
That’s authentic.

Christopher Judge:
Oh, man, that was such a great moment. And because so often I didn’t have very many scenes with Don just one on one, and we had such a fabulous relationship. Well, not that it was… We were friends but also, he was like a father figure to me.

David Read:
I was gonna say. Like a dad.

Christopher Judge:
I remember doing this just because it was one of the few times, on set, that I got to just hang out with Donnie one on one.

David Read:
It’s one of the great scenes for Hammond and him. So, just terrific moment. Similarly, in that vein, and I just rewatched this one… There are a few episodes that, “You know what? If I wanna go and just kill 44 minutes, I’ll put on certain ones.” Tangent is one of those. The design for the X301 and it’s another great beat between you and Rick where Rick’s, like, “If you go to sleep, who will I have to talk to?” “There’s little to say. We are brothers.” “What can I possibly say after that? Back at you.” Tell us about that.

Christopher Judge:
This was the beginning when they really started exploiting Teal’c O’Neill relationship.

David Read:
This is Season Four.

Christopher Judge:
Yeah. Through the first three seasons, there were definitely some Teal’c O’Neill adventures, but this is when they really started paying more attention to it on regular bases.

David Read:
These two would have been close.

Christopher Judge:
Yeah, absolutely.

David Read:
Jack brought him to this planet for crying that loud. “For this, you can stay at my place.” And that’s embodied in that scene. It’s a great acting all around. I’m assuming it was more of a, it may not have been, cost-saving episode to have you guys squared away in there.

Christopher Judge:
I’m sure it was but I can remember also, with Rick and I in a confined space, they would have to come put the hatch on. So, when they had to take the hatch off, we’d be in there farting for the entire time. So, when they would take the hatch off, they…

David Read:
Oh, God. Christopher.

Christopher Judge:
I went six minutes without talking about farting.

David Read:
He did. Kudos to you. This is another example, one that includes Teal’c but one of just the masterful worldbuilding that, at this point, Richard Hudolin was involved with. Absolutely exceptionally cool. The Broca Divide and Teal’c going to the rescue. All the humans… You can’t count on the humans in this episode. Teal’c has got to get things squared away.

Christopher Judge:
What I remember about The Broca Divide, there was… I don’t know if Rick had looked at the concept makeup first because everything had to go through the whole process to be approved and Rick was very unhappy with the…

David Read:
Cro-Magnon makeup?

Christopher Judge:
Yes. It didn’t look… It really didn’t look that bad on everybody else but for some reason it looked very odd on him. So, we were just doing nothing for an hour or two hours while they came up with a different prosthetics on the spot. And, as usual, Rick was right.

David Read:
He knew this was the right way to go.

Christopher Judge:
So, sometimes, we would have to go by… Because this is very early on.

David Read:
I’m assuming you’re walking towards the green screen for this. Because there’s a couple of different shots of you doing this.

Christopher Judge:
We would have to go by the director’s description of what it was gonna be. So, we got caught the first time… I think it was Thor’s Hammer. It was one of DeLuise’s early episodes, and DeLuise said, “The ship’s gonna be huge. It’s gonna be huge.” So, we’re thinking, “OK. Huge. OK. Huge ship.” We see a cut of it and the ship is massive.

David Read:
It’s as big as the valley.

Christopher Judge:
It takes up the entire…

David Read:
The entire sky.

Christopher Judge:
So, our reactions are kind of, like…

David Read:
He’s trying to tell you.

Christopher Judge:
Never again. You have to show us the concept art from now on. And that was the only time… We started believing when they said huge that it’s gonna be huge.

David Read:
It’s a great sequence. It’s our first real sign that there are potentially some powerful allies out there. So, terrific. And the last one that I have here… James CD Robbins joined in Season Six. Anubis’ planet, and you and Bra’tac and Rya’c going under cover of darkness. Although, I think Rya’c wasn’t supposed to. You told him to stay back. Man, it’s another example they could make anything.

Christopher Judge:
Anything. There was… I remember when Hudolin left, and there was some trepidation on who can replace Hudolin. This dude’s a genius. And man, did our fears go away quick that there is another genius. James was…

David Read:
Ken Rabehl was the artist before.

Christopher Judge:
We didn’t miss a beat which… We were so incredibly lucky to get James. And he’s a pretty good golfer, too. Because on Stargate, that’s how we judged people’s worth. But we really didn’t miss a beat. We loved Hudolin but having J…

David Read:
And Rabehl. The artist.

Christopher Judge:
But having James come aboard, it was godsend.

David Read:
These are yours.

Christopher Judge:
What?

David Read:
You get to keep that.

Christopher Judge:
You’re kidding.

David Read:
Yeah. I made them for you.

Christopher Judge:
Holy shit. Awesome.

David Read:
I thought you might like that.

Christopher Judge:
Awesome. That’s fantastic. Thank you, my friend.

David Read:
You’re very welcome.

Christopher Judge:
I appreciate you.

David Read:
I thought you might wanna have them.

Christopher Judge:
Hell yeah!