“Young Catherine Langford” from the original STARGATE film returns to share her excitement for the return of Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich to the franchise and all the possibilities it may bring!

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David Read:
Welcome everyone to episode 382 of Dial the Gate: The Stargate Oral History Project. Hi, Kelly. How are you?

Kelly Vint:
I’m so good, and I’m so happy to be back. Thank you for having me.

David Read:
So, you just watched the thing, and?

Kelly Vint:
I did. Holy moly. So, you reached out and said, “Let’s come back together. This is the best news,” and I was like, “Oh my gosh. This is the best news.” And then you said, “Roland’s on board,” and I said, “What?” I just actually watched the interview, or the announcement, that you did with Martin, Brad, and Joe, and what I actually felt more than anything in that was… There was a moment where I think it was Martin who was actually really honoring you for holding the heartbeat and the community in terms of really keeping this alive with all of the people who love Stargate.

David Read:
Thank you. It’s been such a privilege to be one of the torchbearers for this thing over so many years, and those folks are good folks. And they have kept the fans front and center in everything that they’ve done. They’ve recognized that there is no show, there is no ongoing thing, without the audience. And I think that it’s got the perfect people at the helm. But this is, like I said to you before, if it’s anyone’s franchise, it’s yours and Alexis’. You guys grew up with this thing in your lives. So, what does it feel like having it come back? And the fact that Roland and Dean are executive producers on whatever this is gonna be, it’s gotta be magic.

Kelly Vint:
Yeah. That’s what I felt. And the representation even of the Stargate portal, the full circle, things coming back around… And it’s almost like this bending of time, collapsing time. Because that is essentially what the Stargate is capable of doing. It’s like moving beyond the dimensions of time, space, this idea of reality. It is such an incredible thing to watch these initial energies that were part of the initiation of this epic movement, really, to come back around, and to be part of the reviving of the heartbeat. Not even reviving, because it stayed steady, and that is the thing that I really felt, David. It was like, “Wow, that honor, he really took the moment to say to you…”

David Read:
And Darren.

Kelly Vint:
“Thank you.” And Darren. “Thank you so much for you guys really fanning the flames of the medicine and the magic that is this.” He really made a point to say that. And it’s true, you guys have. So, what I’m seeing right now across the board and in the world, there’s something really important about the amplification and elevation of that kind of energy. Because when I was with you a year ago, and when I’ve looked at some of the podcasts and the interviews and all the things that you’ve done and how you’ve shared about Stargate, what I feel is the purity of service. There is an essence and a frequency and a field that you’re holding that is so pure and has so much integrity, and that is the very thing that I’m actually seeing, is the most important for what we’re navigating together right now on the planet. So, that piece feels like, “Yes, you have been a part of why this gets to be possible because you and Darren have been holding the frequency of honor and integrity and devotion connected to the heartbeat of what Stargate really is.”

David Read:
I appreciate that. I have trouble digesting anything… Thank you. I will say thank you.

Kelly Vint:
There you go. Oof, oof. A little hard.

David Read:
I’m sorry.

Kelly Vint:
It’s true.

Kelly Vint:
You did so good.

David Read:
So, what comes next do you think? What do you think is gonna happen now? I am so hopeful that this thing that they’re gonna birth spawns two or three other things, one of which, honest to God, I really hope is Dean and Roland’s original three-film trilogy idea with modifications to include what came before. And the thing is, as any die-hard Stargate fan will tell you, the built-in universe has doorways that can lead to those other things. So, what would you like to see next?

Kelly Vint:
Oh my gosh. I just love what you said. The fact that this has a life of its own, OK? So, that is the thing that when I just look at… ‘Cause I have my own… Because of that story. I have a mentor who talks about this. It’s like, “Because of that, then this, then this, then this, then this.” And if we really look… Her name is Melanie Anlier, for the record. But she’s brilliant. And we can weave a web of the field… Of the miraculous. Depending on how we’re looking at something. So, I have a million, because of that, stories that are connected to that moment in my life, and I’m just one of the instruments. Do you understand? So, I think about the thousands of people that were on set that day. I think about you. I think about Darren. I think about all the producers, Roland. I think about all of the actors, actresses, and then everybody who watched these films and then created another show and then watched the show. It’s the energy of this and the web that we are all co-weaving together and the way that each one of us has a story connected to the initiation, this very first movie, 1994. There is a because of that that has led to… I don’t… Maybe a billion freaking because of thats, if you really stretched it out. So, in this moment, it’s like, “Wow. It’s coming back around.” The fact that there is the original… That there are some of the original instruments that created that first one, because there’s something about that, that there’s reverence, respect. There’s a kind of honor that you can’t reproduce or manufacture. So, the stewardship in that. There is a difference between somebody who just wants to create something because they want something back from it and somebody who’s creating something because there’s devotion and there’s love for the actual thing that it is. So, that part…

David Read:
And you can tell. If you’re paying attention, you can tell the difference, because I think we all, if we’re lucky and we’re not too gullible, intrinsically recognize when we’re being toyed with. And I think we all intrinsically recognize when something is genuine and sincere, because I think it hits us differently in here, and I think that that’s one of the things that has struck all of us who are watching about numerous aspects of this franchise, from the top on down, from the feature that Dean and Roland created, through Brad, Jonathan, Robert, Joe and Paul, Martin Gero, all of these folks, as sincere, and how it hits us differently at different points in our lives with each different story. Sure, some are not gonna resonate the same way, but others come back around. I just got off with Charles Shaughnessy not an hour ago, talking about how so much of one episode is considerably more relevant now than it was the day that it came out. And we resonate with that. There is, to quote our past conversation, an alchemy there that is undeniable. And stories are at the core of our being. And Stargate- That thing right down there is a perfect portal for it. And I think that it can be endless if it stays true to what it is, what it is trying to do, which is to service mankind with thoughts and entertain. And it’s gotta do both.

Kelly Vint:
You’re actually blowing my mind right now, and this conversation is bringing something into focus and clarity around this, because you said that word last time, alchemy. And we are in an interesting time, and I’ve had some conversations with friends around… Before we know it, it’s gonna be really challenging. It already is on some level to differentiate true from false when we’re looking at AI. Have you experienced this?

David Read:
Yep. I can’t tell anymore.

Kelly Vint:
I know.

David Read:
I’m beginning to not be able to tell.

Kelly Vint:
Correct.

David Read:
And that’s scary.

Kelly Vint:
That’s in … OK. So, we could go down a whole thing about that. And it’s like, “Oh, whoa. What happens when we lose touch with our ability and our capacity to differentiate true from false?” OK? And what feels like my prayer, my vision, my hope, the thing that I’m holding in it all, is that that will become so uncomfortable for us as humans who actually have soul. We do have soul. And so, from what I’ve…

David Read:
Something’s going on.

Kelly Vint:
From what I’ve seen, though, when we feel the absence of that enough, we get into enough discomfort that we’re willing to seek the thing that brings us back to life. So, when you were talking about that piece of being able to actually feel the resonance of when somebody is genuine or when there’s an actual heartbeat, when there’s actual service, intention, purity of where someone’s coming from, that registers. We can feel it. And so that’s gonna be the thing that I believe people are actually really hungry for and longing for. And so, as you’re sharing these pieces about the storylines. What I just saw when you pointed to the Stargate portal behind you was connected to alchemy, that it’s actually the Stargate portal that leads us back to the heart. It leads us back to the experience of being alive. It leads us back to that very essence that is connected to alchemy, that’s connected to organic life, connected to all the elements that we are a part of, but it’s in the stories, it’s in the heart, it’s in the humanity. And right now, now more than ever, can we bring to life the communities, the movements, the things that actually create that unification that is connected to the heart, to our humanity, because oh my gosh, look around and see how easy it is right now in the fear that people are experiencing to miss someone else’s humanity.

David Read:
It’s so easy to devalue people now that it’s scary. We’re plugging ourselves into these machines and, especially the Zoomers, some of them don’t have a prayer of the human contact that is lacking. And entertainment is one of the few things left that really can bring us all together, as I experienced in my own house growing up. The science fiction did that for me and my dad. Thank God for it. I really am so grateful that this show is about to come back on, because I think that it has a place in the modern world more than ever. I’m not BS-ing about that, and the fact that it takes place in the here and now but has an off-world sci-fi element to it, I think, will allow it to carve out a path that will be specific enough to us but different enough that people will still be able to accept it and allow its stories to find meaning in their hearts, for when it comes on for them to receive it. And I think that it is gonna… I think that it is gonna make a difference with a lot of people. I think that whatever it is that they’re cooking up is gonna be relevant in our modern world. Yes, it’s gonna entertain, of course, but I’m really interested in what Martin Gero has to say.

Kelly Vint:
And when you were going down the possibility of, “Wow, OK, it’s this now,” and then, “Does it connect back to the trilogy, and what is gonna be birthed now that these original creators are coming back together again?”

David Read:
In some cases, ways that they’ve never before. You got Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich on a project with Brad Wright, Joseph Mallozzi, and Martin Gero. It’s just, “Geez, man.” This is gonna be cool.

Kelly Vint:
What’s about to happen?

David Read:
What’s about… I don’t know. That’s the thing.

Kelly Vint:
I don’t know.

David Read:
That’s why I had to have you on. If nothing else than to geek out for half an hour, because it’s just… ‘Cause I know you get this. On a species level, you get this, and it’s…

Kelly Vint:
Totally.

David Read:
This is a great time for Stargate fans. I’m really excited about the Stargate fans that don’t even know that they’re gonna be fans yet. Because this show isn’t made for me, it’s made for them. And they have no idea what’s coming for them.

Kelly Vint:
Wow. You know what? I didn’t even think about that. Because how many of the newer generations don’t really have a connection to it? And that this is…

David Read:
Not even half of the parties are seated at the table yet.

Kelly Vint:
Right. And the table’s already so full and so big.

David Read:
I know.

Kelly Vint:
Boom.

David Read:
I know. 354 episodes and three movies.

Kelly Vint:
Wow.

David Read:
What will they think of next? That’s the thing. I think stories that survive are the stories that find new ways into us, ’cause we’re all on our own journey. And at the same time, we’re also on a journey together. There’s a bunch of different ways to look at it, and Stargate surfaces all of those things from episode to episode. And it’s why it’s evergreen. It’s something that you can’t… It’s never down for the count. I forget who… I think it was Brad, I may be misquoting, who said, “Sometimes it’s not been a bright burning candle, but it’s burned nonetheless.”

Kelly Vint:
Consistently.

David Read:
Consistently.

Kelly Vint:
Yes. That’s right. But that is honestly, David, why I’m gonna say it again, you and Darren, there is a significant role that the two of you have played in having that fire burn. Truly, thank you.

David Read:
It’s been a ride. Kelly, the thing that I still have trouble processing is when I go on YouTube and I see a Stargate video and they’re doing this [imitates speech], and I click on it, I know I’m gonna hear an accent or a language that’s not mine. I know it. There is something so international about this show, and I’m so thrilled that, for the first time, we’re all gonna get to watch this one together at the same time. That’s the benefit of Prime Video, is that we can all have it… We can all view it the way that it was meant to be seen by a global audience, which is, we can all get online and watch it together. I think that’s gonna be the plan for a lot of us, or maybe I’m just announcing that right here. I think that I would like to at least watch the pilot with everyone at the same time. Because we have earned that, as fans. Traveling the void between galaxies for 14 years, we’re… It’s gonna be 15 by the time we get the next one, at least. This is for all of us, and for you, very much so as well. This is really cool, and I think that we’re in for a really special ride. I guess if I were Martin, I’d be like, “Oh, God. It’s not gonna be another testament.” It’s a TV series. But at the same time, it’s not.

Kelly Vint:
It’s not. And as you’re talking…

David Read:
It’s a special thing of entertainment.

Kelly Vint:
It’s beyond that, actually. And when you were just weaving that right now with your words, what I can see is how, on a global level, this very thing, this portal, this Stargate, this traveling through time, this epic freaking story that is connected to truth, that goes beyond mostly what our human mind can comprehend, that place where it’s touched all over the globe, and for you to say out loud, “I would really love to see that we all get to be in that moment of bringing the heartbeat of this back alive together,” that there’s actually something… It’s a little bit hard to put into words.

David Read:
Tell me about it. I’ve been trying for years.

Kelly Vint:
How to freaking describe this…

David Read:
I know. ‘Cause you have to feel it.

Kelly Vint:
… and digest it.

David Read:
You can’t think it, you have to feel it.

Kelly Vint:
It’s a feeling. And also, there is something that this has a life of its own. I know I said that already but there is an intelligence, a living intelligence, that is beyond our comprehension, that is connected to Stargate from the very start of what this is, and how it has stayed alive, and then now how it is coming back in this moment in time, and how it’s connected globally, and how it is actually connecting so many of us, and how we are all connected in the quantum field, which is exactly what the Stargate, on some level, represents. So, this is beyond what our human brain is gonna be able to comprehend. It really is. And I don’t know how to say it.

David Read:
It’s a lot to take in. And at the end of the day, I am really looking forward to just a great story. And it’s gonna take them as long as it’s gonna take. But also, with our technology now, they can tell it in ways that they couldn’t even 14 years ago with Universe. There’s so much there now that they can mine and bring to the screen for a fraction of what it would’ve cost. And with the resources of Amazon, I don’t know what kind of a budget this thing is gonna have. But it’s not gonna be peanuts.

Kelly Vint:
No.

David Read:
And it’s gonna be really cool.

Kelly Vint:
I really cannot wait to see it. And my son, my youngest son, is 11. He’s the age that I was in the first film when I went to Yuma, Arizona, and there wasn’t the CGI, and it was unbelievable, the set. I was thinking about that.

David Read:
Can you recall that moment again? Do me a favor. I love this story.

Kelly Vint:
It was unbelievable. And I mentioned this the last time we talked, of really not understanding, until I got to the set, the bigness of what this actually was. And I still didn’t quite get it, of course. I’m still digesting what this is. However, when I stepped onto that set in Yuma, Arizona, and I felt like I was literally transported to ancient Egypt, because they had literally created exactly what that would look like. How do you make Egypt come to Yuma, Arizona? The bigness of that, the what went into that, the budget, the carving out of the mountains, the running through these sites that looked like real ancient archaeological sites.

David Read:
It looked like an excavation.

Kelly Vint:
With the camels. Yes. It was so wild. If you look at the screen, nowadays they would say, “Oh, is that like a green screen or is this CGI?” No. This was actually the reality of what that looked like. And then, again, the details and the costumes and the amount of people, and it was so incredible. So, now, it will be different, because they can do so much with so much less. And so to think that I can sit and watch now with my 11-year-old, and this is one of the new people at the new table that’s getting so much bigger. There’s a new generation of humans that get to join this incredible, epic heartbeat web, the table of Stargate, and my son, who’s 11, gets to be one of them. Amazing.

David Read:
No, this is for them. The stuff that really sticks with me is that which I absorbed at around 11 years old. Empire Strikes Back. Stargate came a few years later, but Star Trek: The Next Generation was really big in my life. And that kind of entertainment, I think that I’ve accepted it more as I’ve gotten older, but childhood dreams don’t have to die. And you can keep a part of the innocence of yourself that is the dreamer into adulthood. You can’t let it run away with itself ’cause you have to feed yourself and pay the bills and everything else. But at the same time, I think our childhood dreams are the strongest. And if we get to execute those in any way as adults, I think it is so fulfilling. And so, I think that, speaking for myself, has been one of the greatest privileges. But I just… You are so intrinsically connected to this thing because you were there in scene one, and it’s always gonna be connected to you. You’re always gonna feel it, and that’s… It’s so cool that it’s coming back around again, and I can’t wait for the ride that we’re about to all get on. But I can. There’s something about me that’s like, “Let’s bask in this for a little while. Let’s let them take as long as they need to take to make it right.”

Kelly Vint:
There is something so incredibly valuable about the lesson of slowing down to speed up, and it is one that life has been very generous with me around. It’s like the savoring, the being in the presence, the magic, the essence of what it is rather than the tendency and the compulsion that we have as humans to get to the thing.

David Read:
Go, go, go.

Kelly Vint:
So, I love…

David Read:
It’s a journey.

Kelly Vint:
…that you said that. And look at this what I have on actually. So, I am connected, always. It’s like, this is so significant, and after we talked… And it’s key moments too, and this is part of the piece where I’m one instrument in the orchestra of all of us that are connected to this living, gorgeous Stargate. So, when this has come into my life and come back, it has been pivotal moments that have all been significantly connected to Stargate, to Egypt, to these pieces and these moments. So, after our last interview or conversation, hanging out, I was on my way to Egypt, and you connected me to get the replicas for the necklaces, and I got some for the people that I was taking to Egypt, and I had this moment where I was like, “I don’t know. Is this weird? Do they even know what Stargate is? I’m bringing these.” And then I have this deep intuition, “Just bring them and give them to them as gifts,” So, I bring them, and one of the guys who is there on the trip with me, who has become a dear brother of mine, who was a client and still is, but what a story this guy has. What a story he has. And he says to me, “Oh, my gosh. I cannot believe you’re giving me this necklace. I remember watching that movie as a kid and literally said to my brother, ‘One day, I’m gonna have a necklace like that.'”

David Read:
Talk about manifesting.

Kelly Vint:
Right? So, then this whole crew finds a jeweler in Egypt, and they make real gold freaking necklaces like the Stargate necklace, and they all go home with these necklaces. It’s so wild. But it’s those kinds of connections, and later he said to me, “I have such a deep connection to the necklace and to the movie, but it’s also… There was something that I was connected to you and the significance of that,” but that, to me, is the representation of the Stargate portal. It’s like traveling in and outside of time and making all of these connections and the understanding that we are interwoven. There is no actual separation between us. So, in this moment where seemingly there is, the most incredible thing that we could do is connect ourselves back to that truth of no matter what it looks like, the circumstance and how scary it looks or how much we wanna feel separate from it, we’re not. And so, this coming back in right now and being a community, that it’s like all this outside stuff gets put to the side because there’s a common heartbeat, a common thread, a common purpose, which is the love for this. It’s the love for Stargate. That is the flame that you guys have helped steward and keep alive over all of these years. May that get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And what is so amazing is fire is the only element that cannot be polluted. So, if you look at air; it can be polluted. You look at the waters; we’ve done quite a number there. We look at the lands; they can be polluted. Fire cannot. So, it will burn everything unlike itself back into itself. That’s alchemy. And so that part of the fire that has been kept alive consistently, whether it’s blazing or it’s just the flickering of a candle, it’s alive, and it has been staying alive, and now it’s gonna go like this. And I can’t wait to see what happens. I’m really excited.

David Read:
Yes. It’s gonna be great. Raj wanted to know, “If you were asked would you be interested in taking part in some way in the continuing series?”

Kelly Vint:
Absolutely. And I thought about this for a moment because I stepped out of that world, and I don’t have the thing where I’m like, “I need to be in movies. I need to be…” And part of it is that energy thing of, “I need this in order to.” There’s so much of that in Hollywood that it was like… That was a bit of why I actually didn’t wanna participate. I don’t like the way that feels. It doesn’t feel honest. It doesn’t feel true. It doesn’t feel in sacred reciprocity. And so, when I’ve tuned into…

David Read:
Why is that true?

Kelly Vint:
It’s transactional. It’s like “What am I gonna get from this?” And I don’t like that at all, and I want nothing to do with that.

David Read:
That’s right.

Kelly Vint:
But when I tune into Stargate, it’s like the essence is sacred reciprocity. It is service. What kept it alive is service. What initiated it was service. And so if there was an invitation back, it feels so clean and feels so in integrity for what I stand for that I would be an eff yes.

David Read:
Not yes but eff yes.

Kelly Vint:
That’s right.

David Read:
Teresamc1337, “Do you think something like the gate might actually exist somewhere?” You personally.

Kelly Vint:
I do. I think there are many gates and yes. My belief is yes. I don’t even think I realized we were live, just FYI. I thought we were recording and it was gonna…

David Read:
I’m so sorry.

Kelly Vint:
No, this is great. I love it.

David Read:
I’m so sorry.

Kelly Vint:
It’s amazing.

David Read:
My apologies.

Kelly Vint:
There’s questions, I’m like, “Oh, good, this is my favorite part. Let’s go.”

David Read:
This is… I need to be a little bit more clear about that. I am so embarrassed.

Kelly Vint:
Don’t even. I actually love it so much. Live is better. That’s why it feels alive. Great.

David Read:
Shasocastris. I’m gonna modify this a little bit, Shaso. “What was it like to be welcomed back for Stargate Origins? What was that experience like?” We talked about it a little bit last time.

Kelly Vint:
It was so incredible. Again, the weaving and the synchronicity of how this even happened. I had met the director somewhere else. So, then we were talking and she said, “Oh my god, I have this amazing news. I can’t tell you yet, blah, blah, blah.” And I was like, “OK, cool. I can’t wait to hear it.” I had no idea what it was gonna be about. And then she called and said, “I’m gonna be directing the next Stargate.” And I said, “Wow, that’s so cool. Amazing. I get why you would wanna tell me, ’cause I’m connected to it and we know each other.” And she goes, “I wanted you to know.”

David Read:
You knew her completely unrelated though, right?

Kelly Vint:
What’s that?

David Read:
I apologize. You knew her completely unrelated though, right?

Kelly Vint:
Completely unrelated.

David Read:
Wow, and then what did she say?

Kelly Vint:
No, no, no. Completely unrelated, and she’s like… I was just celebrating the fact that she was doing that. She was so excited about it. I actually had no idea she was gonna ask me to come, and then she said, “Well, would you come do a cameo?” And I was like, “What? Yes.” It was the same feeling when you just asked me. It’s like, “Yes, I would come do this because there’s joy,” and it’s “What can I give and contribute to this?” Not like, “This is gonna give me something.” And it was so incredible. I did not know also that we were gonna be basically replicating the original scene. So, when they gave me that glove, that was the same glove that I put on my hand at 11 years old, and then asked me to pick the necklace up, right, not obviously in ancient Egypt but from her chest where she was wearing it. And I’m looking and I’m, again, traveling back in time. It’s like time collapsed.

David Read:
That had to have been unreal.

Kelly Vint:
It was unreal. It was amazing, and everybody on the set was amazing. I had the best time. And it was, again, such a significant part of my journey in life and the web of what has connected me to Stargate all along. So, yes, amazing. Thank you for asking.

David Read:
I am really curious to know what Roland and Dean’s plans were for the next two. Dean told us a little bit about it when we had him on. One of our first episodes here on Dial the Gate. But there’s such a universe to explore on that side, and there’s technology in the show, in the TV series, that would facilitate that without trouncing on anything that came before in that timeline.

David Read:
What do you think they were planning on doing with the other two movies? Did you give any consideration to that?

Kelly Vint:
To be honest with you, I did not know that there was even conversation about two other movies, until you just said that today.

David Read:
They were considering a trilogy. That’s why the Stargate has nine chevrons instead of seven.

Kelly Vint:
So, I didn’t know this. And when you said it today, what I felt was, that conversation is coming back to life.

David Read:
I sure hope so because…

Kelly Vint:
When you said it…

David Read:
I think that there’s room for everyone under the tent.

Kelly Vint:
…it felt true for me. So, I could be totally wrong. My intuition could be off. But when you said it, I was like, “Oh, that wasn’t the time.” And so now feels like it is, and that’s an interesting thing when it’s like things get created, we attach ourselves to when it’s gonna happen, instead of sometimes letting go and understanding that, yes, it’s happening. It’s just not happening right now as we’re experiencing right now. But it feels…

David Read:
We have trouble letting go.

Kelly Vint:
…like a good time.

Kelly Vint:
We have a really… We’re like this, “Ugh,” as humans.

David Read:
Yep, exactly.

Kelly Vint:
I know.

David Read:
There is a propensity to survive at all costs, and that includes creative endeavors as well, where it’s like, “Look, there is a time and a place for this stuff.” And there is so much fun in that original film that you’ve really got the Earth-side stuff that’s happening that’s serious and militaristic and cool in its own way, and then once you get to Abydos and you meet these colorful characters and this outsized larger-than-life villain, there’s a lot that’s happening there. And I always did wanna see more, so long as it doesn’t get in the way of what we fell in love with in the show. And I do think that there is room for both. I think that you can have both. It’s a door, it’s rare… A couple of times the Stargate was used to travel through time. But it’s mainly a doorway through space, and you can go into side spaces with it and tell other adventures…

Kelly Vint:
Exactly.

David Read:
…on other sides of other layers of reality. There’s a reason that…

Kelly Vint:
That’s the thing.

David Read:
…Kurt Russell doesn’t look like Richard Dean Anderson. And that’s OK, but they can still both be Jack O’Neill, just one has one L and the other has two.

Kelly Vint:
But this is the piece in some… When even someone’s asking about the Stargate portal, “Do I believe that’s…?” So, I do but my sense is that there are places that operate outside of time, OK? So, it’s past, present, future, parallel, multiver[se], it’s all happening right now.

David Read:
Everything, everywhere, all at once.

Kelly Vint:
Yes. Exactly. And for our human understanding and mind that is organized around specific constructs of time, there’s people who are like, “Oh, our ego’s not our amigo.” And sometimes it’s not. And sometimes it is because that ego construct actually gives us the capacity to be in the human experience and organize reality in a way that we can digest that. Because when we start traveling into parallel timelines, past, present, future, collapsing time, bending time, understanding that this dimension and this dimension are happening at the same time. So, are we traveling through dimensions? Are we traveling through time? There’s a lot to consider in that. And this movie is like… There’s a lot of things that have come out since then that point to this. But at the time, there were not a lot of things suggesting that parallel universes, multidimensional realities are in existence. That was a radical notion at the time.

David Read:
Much more theoretical.

Kelly Vint:
So, now we have a lot of things…

David Read:
The multiverse wasn’t a thing yet in quantum physics. Not really.

Kelly Vint:
Correct. But now we have a lot of things that are pointing to, “Oh, wow, yeah, OK, sci-fi idea,” and how much of the sci-fi is actually woven with actual reality? So, I think there’s a way. Anyways, going back to what you were saying, I think there’s a way to create it all, to really honor the essence of all of the things that have already been created and still be able to seemingly go back in time, and go back to the conversation of the trilogy where it’s like nothing from the original movie to the series, nothing gets dishonored or diminished or any of that, that it’s like, “Whoa, there is a way to actually create a storyline that amplifies it and elevates it all.”

David Read:
It can build upon its own lane. And you could have a meeting up further down the line. There’s all kinds of stuff. One of my favorite modern films is a comic book movie, which I don’t say that often, which is the last Spider-Man that came out. And it brought together Tobey Maguire and the… He’s the only one that I can name right now off the top of my head. But all three of the Spider-Man characters from the live action universe in a story that made it all work, and it was extremely well-received. And if that can be successful, Stargate can do it as well. And I think that films like that have paved the way for audiences’ minds to be freed a little bit more from the trappings of, “Well, this thing is something that I really love over here, and if this comes out, then by definition of it existing, it must supersede that thing that I love,” and that is not true. Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland. Thank you, Philippe Canat. Thank you. And there’s room for everybody at this table as long as the story is good story and speaks to us intrinsically.

Kelly Vint:
Yes.

David Read:
And I think Martin Gero does that as a writer, just effortlessly. It’s ridiculous how he can just keep on hammering these things out like cookies.

Kelly Vint:
What a gift.

David Read:
It is a gift. That’s absolutely right.

Kelly Vint:
It is a gift. And how incredible that he’s using it in the way that he is, and how fortunate are we that it is…

David Read:
I’m thrilled he’s back.

Kelly Vint:
Yes.

David Read:
He wrote my favorite episode of Stargate Atlantis, which is called Sunday, and a key character in the show gets killed. And it’s always stayed with me ever since. In my opinion, the episode was diminished by some things that happened in the plot later on, but that episode has always stuck with me, and Joel Goldsmith’s sweeping score by the end of it is one of the best moments in sci-fi. And if that’s how he wrote back in 2006 for Stargate… That was 19 years ago. It’s gonna be 20 years by the time his vision is shown to us again, if not more. And it’s back to my point, all the way around the circle. I can’t wait.

Kelly Vint:
That’s right. And if we think about 10,000 hours to create mastery around something. 20 years. There was already a level of mastery with him and his gift.

David Read:
Intrinsic.

Kelly Vint:
Now how many 10,000 hours has compounded on that gift and the level of mastery that he had when he was writing the show? Now what even can this be?

David Read:
Life experience and knowledge and current events and our technology and scientific discovery.

David Read:
There’s all kinds of toys in the toy box to play with, along with the old toy box. Keep it close.

Kelly Vint:
Yes. He has a lot of things at his disposal but also the fine-tuning of that instrument is… We are beyond fortunate and blessed that this is where this is coming from.

David Read:
I love your display.

Kelly Vint:
Thank you.

David Read:
You have beautiful plants.

Kelly Vint:
Thank you.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Kelly Vint:
I have plants everywhere. I love plants so much, I cannot even tell you. Seriously. And in a time, seriously, where it’s like the way in which things are moving so quickly, and the world of technology and the world of AI and all of that, there is a deep, deep, deep calling in my body of, “OK, yes, stay grounded to organic life, to plants, to this planet, and also how do they work together?”

David Read:
They’re at a much slower pace than we are. We could learn something from them.

Kelly Vint:
100 percent. You wanna talk about slowing down to speed up? We could learn a lot if we slowed down and paid attention to the way that things are around here, and not only in the world of technology and the moving so fast and getting something in half of a second. It’s like, “Phew.” There is something exquisite, and I really appreciated you actually saying that about — As much as I wanna see it, there’s also a deep appreciation of basking in the energy that is coming alive. And I do think that that is part of what has made Stargate what it is or kept it what it is or built it or continued to grow it, is there’s an element of that. It’s like, “OK. Sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly, but it’s consistent.”

David Read:
And ultimately in its own time. This thing was never dead. Everyone was always like, “Oh, it’s never gonna come back.” I’m like…

Kelly Vint:
Never. Never is.

David Read:
“It will come back. It may be 2030 or 2040, but it will come back.”

Kelly Vint:
Here we are. [inaudible]

David Read:
Here we are. Just holding onto that secret for the nine, ten days that I had to was one of the hardest things to keep in my life.

Kelly Vint:
I’m sure.

David Read:
‘Cause I couldn’t tell my staff on the channel that I had to say, “OK, next week, we’re gonna be very, very busy one day after the other. We’re gonna have a livestream, and I need you guys to be on staff for it.” Some of them had to have known on some level that something was going on, but that was a really cool experience. Kelly, this has been wonderful to have you back.

Kelly Vint:
Thank you.

David Read:
Catherine was ultimately the matriarch of the program. And there would have been no SGC without her. There would have been no adventure without her. And so, you playing the youngest, most innocent version of that character is something that’s really special. And the fact that you’ve still kept the franchise as a part of your life, all this time, and the fact that it’s coming back around and you’re here to celebrate that with us, that’s really special too. So, thanks for being here and let’s get gung-ho into this thing ’cause there’s a lot to look forward to.

Kelly Vint:
Love this. My kids say, “LFG, Mom.” So, that’s what I’m feeling. It’s like, “Let’s go.”

David Read:
Absolutely.

Kelly Vint:
“Let’s go.” May the essence, and the heart, and the truth, and the integrity of what this really is be amplified, elevated, activated through time, space, dimensions. May it touch us in ways that remind us of the truth of our essence, our hearts, our humanity, through the stories, through the experiences, and also open up portals for things that will blow our minds. That is just my prayer for this. And thank you so much for having me back. I’ll come back anytime. I love it. I love your love for this and your service. So, thank you, thank you, thank you.

David Read:
I appreciate your devotion to it and taking so much time. I’m gonna wrap up the show on this side and appreciate you so much.

Kelly Vint:
I’ll see you soon.

David Read:
That was Kelly Vint, young Catherine Langford in the original Stargate feature film. My name is David Read. You’re watching the Stargate Oral History Project on Dial the Gate. We’ve got a number of shows headed your way as I wind down Season Five, which is gonna be finishing probably on the 9th of December here. Couple of days from now on Saturday, December the 6th at 3:00 PM, Stargate Fan Creations 2025. It’s our end-of-the-year look, once again, at different things that have inspired people to create Stargate content from around the web. Kevin Otsuji is joining us for Stargate Trivia on the 7th, Sunday at 2:00 PM Pacific Time. That is after Wormhole X-Tremists. It is gonna be… I know I keep saying this, but this one is true as well, the most frenzied episode of Stargate Trivia you’ve seen yet. And we’ve got an episode on Stargate podcasts coming up. Joel Goldsmith’s music is gonna be highlighted in a specific episode that… I’m just waiting for some more information to figure out when things are gonna come into play. But we’re gonna see that happening hopefully before the end of the season. But if we’re gonna have to wait for it into Season Six, it’s only because of good things happening. That’s all I’ll say. My tremendous thanks to my moderating team for pulling these episodes off. Antony, Jeremy, Kevin, Lockwatcher, Marcia, Raj, Jakub, Enigma, Steven. My producers Antony Rawling, Kevin Weaver, Summer Roy, Brice Ors. Matt Eagle SG Wilson, thank you to his amazing opening sequence that he… That guy is so freaking talented. He brought the feature to life, that kind of setting and poster aesthetic. And to Frederick Marcoux over at Concepts Web who’s keeping dialthegate.com up and running. My name is David Read for Dial the Gate. I appreciate you tuning in, and I will see you on the other side.