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Timecodes
0:00 – Splash Screen
0:24 – Opening Credits
0:52 – Welcome
1:26 – Guest Introduction
3:08 – Season Six Outline Published by Joseph Mallozzi
5:18 – 6×01 and 02: Now What? Parts 1 and 2 (Stargate Extinction)
9:34 – 6×03: Children of the Corn / Fantastic Four
11:38 – 6×04: Carl’s Replicator Story
12:56 – 6×05: Classic Stargate
15:28 – 6×06: Carter Roshomon
18:43 – 6×07: The Red Shirt Diaries
20:46 – 6×08 Sheppard DOA
22:06 – 6×09: The Replacements
26:23 – 6×10 and 11: Mid-Season Two Parter 1 and 2
29:09 – 6×12: Hamster Ball
31:37 – 6×13: Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow
33:59 – 6×14: Hexed
35:22 – 6×15: Entropy
36:49 – 6×16: Revenge
38:18 – 6×17: Payback
41:04 – 6×18: Turn of Events
44:47 – 6×19: Pre-Finale
46:03 – Script Pages Adapted from Stargate Extinction/Comic-Con Panel
50:53 – 6×20: Season/Series Finale
55:47 – Peace with the Wraith?
57:07 – Thank you, Joseph Mallozzi!
58:47 – And Thank you, Nicole and Yvie!
59:58 – Post-Discussion Wrap-Up
1:02:08 – End Credits

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TRANSCRIPT
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David Read:
Hello everyone, and welcome to a very special episode of Dial the Gate. Season Six, Stargate Atlantis, unfilmed episodes. I have a couple of special people with me today. I have Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Hello.

David Read:
… and Yvie Cahill.

Yvie Cahill:
Hello.

David Read:
Hello. Was that a Vulcan salute?

Yvie Cahill:
Yes.

David Read:
OK. I saw half. It’s like, “Ahh. [inaudible]”

Yvie Cahill:
I don’t actually know what I’m doing, sorry.

David Read:
This is Christmas morning. I got a notification from our producer, Linda “GateGabber” Furey. She said that Joseph Mallozzi had posted outlines, small little blurbs of episodes for Season Six of Stargate Atlantis. I never thought I would see the day. And I haven’t looked at ’em because it’s, “No, no, no, this is a moment for us.” This is a moment for all of us as a community to enjoy these together.

Yvie Cahill:
Agreed. But I did .. I ruined it slightly for myself. I did read the first handful of descriptions. But I didn’t delve any deeper than, say, Episode 10.

David Read:
Only half the season, huh?

Yvie Cahill:
So, I had a very brief look. I was very excited that Uncle Joe has gifted us this present on Wormhole Wednesday.

David Read:
Joey says, “Not too long until AI generated episodes.” Maybe this is why Joe is releasing these now, So, that he can–

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Or maybe he heard wind from Amazon that they weren’t gonna take any of the previous stuff forward, and he was like, “Well, screw it. I’ll just tell people what it was.”

David Read:
What have you heard?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Nothing. That’s my assumption. That’s what I would assume. Wouldn’t it be crazy if that’s the reason? If he heard something in the rumor mills and he was like, “Well, I’m just gonna do it,” and then Amazon… ’cause Amazon’s doing their own thing. That’d be really nice. It’s not nice but it would be nice, but it’s not.

David Read:
And Joey also raises, “The sad thing is it means he’s probably given up.” Season Six–

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
That’s what’s sad.

Yvie Cahill:
It’s true.

David Read:
The show has been off the air now for 15 years. Its 20th anniversary is this summer. There’s only So, much that you can expect out of it. If they’re gonna do another Stargate set in the Brad Wright canon, it’s not gonna be Season Six of Atlantis. It would be newer stories.

Yvie Cahill:
Yes.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Eventually, that kind of stuff.

David Read:
As writers, they wouldn’t be like, “Well, what was I thinking of 15 years ago?” For a couple of stories, sure. But not the whole thing.

Yvie Cahill:
No.

David Read:
This is a chance for us to look at — I’m not gonna belabor this — what was in Joe’s mind as executive producer of Stargate Atlantis alongside Paul Mullie at the time approximately that was going on. We’re gonna open up the hood on this. If you wanna go to Joe’s Twitter feed, that’s perfectly fine, but we’re gonna go through all this together one by one. Let’s go ahead and have a look. You guys have it up?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yes.

Yvie Cahill:
I do.

David Read:
OK. Let me see here if I can enlarge for everyone.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It’s So, sad that he, that he’s done this, but it’s So, nice. It’s a combination of–

David Read:
What would have been.

Yvie Cahill:
It’s a bit bittersweet. Exactly. I don’t quite know how to feel, ’cause I’m thrilled that I can read these synopses, whatever the plural is, imagine what he had in store for these episodes. But on the other hand, you’re right, it’s a little bit sad because he’s obviously closing the chapter on the Atlantis storyline and putting it away for good.

David Read:
Maybe he was going through documents or something and just found some, “Oh yeah, maybe I should post this.” I don’t know that this moment in time is indicative of anything. But let’s go ahead and look at what was planned. On Twitter, X, gosh, the platform formerly known as Twitter, Joe wrote — this is about 12 hours ago, 15 hours ago now — “Stargate Trivia: The Atlantis Season Six stories we never got to tell.” And it’ll be in the description, this link, once we’re done, So, you can go through it at your leisure. “Stargate Trivia: The Atlantis Season Six stories we never got to tell. The whiteboard ideas for the show’s sixth season and a rough summary of each episode… Now What? I and II,” also, known as Stargate: Extinction. “This opening two parter would have been the Stargate: Extinction script, a time travel episode that would have seen our crew stranded in Triangulum…” — I’ve heard for years that it was another gal[axy]. I assumed that it was Andromeda — “…the Triangulum Galaxy. There, they encounter a curious civilization as well as an unexpected foe in the form of a future version of Todd the Wraith. With the help of present-day Todd, however, our heroes manage to turn the tables on the enemy and resume their journey to the Pegasus Galaxy.”

David Read:
Interesting.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I’d like to see Christopher Heyerdahl again.

Yvie Cahill:
Absolutely and I’m excited by the prospect of two different versions of Todd. Two different versions, that’s great.

David Read:
I do know– Go ahead.

Yvie Cahill:
Sorry, you go, David.

David Read:
I do know that the Novan story arc from Universe was heavily borrowed from this idea of the usage of the time travel. So, in middle of SGU Season Two, they open the wormhole into the sun. The Stargate — it doesn’t really loop back in on itself — it loops forward on itself to the distant past 2,000 years ago and they continue to move through the galaxy and discover human descendants. And I thought this was one of the best concepts that Stargate did, frankly.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It’s one of my favorites.

David Read:
And it was heavily borrowed from this script. They took some of the elements out of that, Stargate: Extinction, and applied them to Stargate Universe, because at that point, Extinction was not going forward.

Yvie Cahill:
OK. That’s creative. Reuse, recycle.

David Read:
That’s it.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It was a good idea, use it.

Yvie Cahill:
I’ll be completely honest, and I will say that I haven’t watched Atlantis probably in about 12 months, So, you guys might have to remind me of certain plot points. But where we ended Atlantis …

David Read:
San Francisco Bay.

Yvie Cahill:
So, they were in San Francisco Bay. So, how were they supposed to get to the Triangulum Galaxy from the bay?

David Read:
At the start of Stargate: Extinction, one of the first shots is Lorne, and I think Zelenka, in suits staring at Atlantis, they’re all on the surface of the Moon. So, by the opening of Extinction– I’ve got the script somewhere. I’ve never read it past the opening scene.

Yvie Cahill:
Wow. I knew that the Moon was gonna be involved somehow. But that is really cool. All right.

David Read:
While I was working at Stargate Command, I had a chance to look at Extinction. I’ve got the… I probably should delete the file. But it’s buried somewhere. I don’t know where it is.

Yvie Cahill:
I was picturing a black suitcase with those padlocks on it.

David Read:
The nuclear football? That’s funny.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
With the two keys for two people to access it.

David Read:
I didn’t wanna read it ’cause at some point we’re gonna see it, and I just buried it. It started off with that scene.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
That’s how I feel.

David Read:
That’s where that went. By the end of Part One and Part Two, or Stargate: Extinction, however you care to look at it, they would have found themselves back in the Pegasus Galaxy.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
There’s no point in keeping Atlantis where it is. You got a flying city, take it somewhere.

David Read:
Why not Triangulum? Let’s go to Triangulum.

Yvie Cahill:
Have city, will travel.

David Read:
That’s it, exactly. Yvie, do you wanna read 603?

Yvie Cahill:
Absolutely. This is “Children of the Corn/Fantastic Four. While traveling aboard the Daedalus, our crew comes across a seemingly derelict ship. They board and, while searching the darkened interior, discover a group of children in stasis. They revive the kids who explain they were enroute to a planet to be reunited with their parents, colonists who had completed work on a new satellite community. The children are welcomed aboard and are being ferried to their destination when a mystery ship appears and opens fire on the Daedalus. Our heroes try to outpace their pursuer, but as a game of intergalactic cat and mouse ensues, the team begins to suspect that their young passengers may not be as innocent and harmless as they appear.” Wow.

David Read:
Interesting.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
More kids.

Yvie Cahill:
Yes, more children. Up to no good apparently.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I feel these shows always do kids quite early on, and then they give up on the concept of kids after a certain point ’cause “We’re done with that, too many kids.”

David Read:
Boxey, anyone?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
My goodness, Battlestar.

David Read:
Someone asked Ron Moore in the Ron Moore version, “What happened to Boxy?” “He’s probably chasing his little lost Muffet.” Someone from Syfy channel had requested that they do that, that they bring in a kid. I think someone else wanted either a child or a puppy for the miniseries.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Doesn’t work for Battlestar.

David Read:
“That’s OK, very good.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Spin it off.

Yvie Cahill:
All right, that synopsis sounds …

David Read:
Interesting.

Yvie Cahill:
… pretty damn good.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Nice, more kids.

Yvie Cahill:
All right, they’re gonna pick up some more people.

David Read:
Yes, evidently so.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Just keep picking people up.

David Read:
Nicole?

Yvie Cahill:
It’s a big city.

David Read:
It is.

Yvie Cahill:
There’s work for everybody, I’m sure.

David Read:
Nicole, do you wanna read the next one?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“Carl’s Replicator Story.” I like the title already. “604. ‘Progeny,’ ‘The Real World,’ ‘Phantoms,’ ‘Echoes,’ ‘Lifeline,’ ‘Ghost in the Machine’ – Carl Binder was the king of ghost and replicator stories. No doubt he would have written one for the show’s sixth season. And it would have been brilliant.” I love that. It’s like, “We don’t know what it would have been, but it would have been something along those lines, and you would have maybe enjoyed it.”

Yvie Cahill:
And it would have been incredible.

David Read:
So, the replicator story was not fully resolved?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
No, that’s interesting.

Yvie Cahill:
Apparently.

David Read:
We have an Elizabeth Weir in deep freeze, floating around.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I was gonna say, they could have gone and gotten her.

Yvie Cahill:
That’s true.

David Read:
If Michelle Morgan had played her at this point, they could have brought her back for that. I always felt bad about Elizabeth, because it’s like, “That’s it? Really?”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
She’s left there.

David Read:
Get her in a jumper. Go get her. At that point, they should have drifted far enough apart that you’re not gonna worry about one trying to clamber onto the jumper, one of the others.

Yvie Cahill:
After everything she sacrificed for …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
She did so much.

Yvie Cahill:
… the Atlantis crew, she’s sort of left there.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Really tragic end. Always did leave me a bit. Season Five did not make me happy in a lot of ways.

David Read:
Really?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yeah.

David Read:
I thought the show got better and better every season.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I thought it got better and better, but it had some ups and downs.

Yvie Cahill:
I enjoyed it pretty much all the way through.

David Read:
All right, “Classic Stargate.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Who’s doing this one?

David Read:
I am. It’s my turn. “Classic Stargate was an idea Martin Gero pitched, a story that would take place in the early years of the Atlantis expedition, a flashback to an adventure we had never been privy to.” So, before …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
That sounds really good.

Yvie Cahill:
I like that.

David Read:
… if I’m not mistaken, around the time of Season Eight of SG-1, they were thinking of doing a Lost episode for… or as– I don’t know if it was gonna be an episode or a DVD movie. But I remember Michael Shanks talking about this, and I remember other people mentioning it as well. They were gonna do an episode set earlier and I thought that it was a great idea.

Yvie Cahill:
Such a big Lost fan as well. That’s the ultimate crossover for you.

David Read:
Absolutely right. It’s not about the destination; it’s about the journey.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Not the same ending, though.

David Read:
No, absolutely not. Jack O’Neill dying with Vincent with him. Classic Stargate, So, a story that would take place in the early years of the Atlantis expedition. Very cool. All right.

Yvie Cahill:
I like that. I like when they fill in the blanks. ‘Cause we don’t always get a lot of information, I guess, at the start. There’s usually gaps in the story, but I really like when they go back and fill them in.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
One of my favorite is Before I Sleep.

David Read:
Before I Sleep.

Yvie Cahill:
A lot of my favorite series will do this as well. Off the top of my head, I was thinking of Frasier. I don’t know why, but they did something similar with that, where they went forward and then went back. And it was terrible. The wigs were awful. You could tell that most of the guys were wearing wigs so that they look like earlier versions of themselves.

David Read:
But it’s not a dream or something? They actually moved through time?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
But the story was OK.

Yvie Cahill:
No, no, they didn’t move through time. It was a flashback, I guess.

David Read:
Backwards.

Yvie Cahill:
But we weren’t, as an audience, privy to those scenes …

David Read:
OK, those particular parts of the story.

Yvie Cahill:
… in the correct timeline, if that made sense. So, it was filling in the blanks. I liked that.

David Read:
My folks are the Frasier lovers in my family…

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Mine’s also, Frasier lovers.

David Read:
There you go.

Yvie Cahill:
See, that basically proves that I’m a baby boomer at heart.

David Read:
That’s all good. “Carter Roshomon 606.”

Yvie Cahill:
Roshamon [sic]. Should I read this one?

David Read:
Please.

Yvie Cahill:
OK, I will struggle on the word Roshomon. So, “Carter Roshomon was a story idea that didn’t make the cut in Season Four and ended up in the Season Five pile, despite the fact that Carter was no longer the base commander. It was originally envisioned as our spin on Kurosawa’s …”

David Read:
Akira Kurosawa.

Yvie Cahill:
Sorry if that’s mispronounced.

Yvie Cahill:
“… 1950 classic, Colonel Carter faces a possible court-martial and dismissal after an off-world op goes awry. During the ensuing investigation, we are offered three different flashback versions of the changed events. What happened and what was she being accused of? Guess we’ll never know. Since it didn’t make the cut in Season Five, I moved it into the potential Season Six episode discussion list.”

David Read:
Interesting. Three different flashback versions.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I just feel like she’s beyond court-martial at this point. The amount of times she should have–

Yvie Cahill:
She’s un-court-martialable?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
She should have been court-martialed a bajillion times by this point across SG-1.

David Read:
Carter? Really?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Are you joking? They ran to Apophis’ ship and went and did naughty things to save the planet. It’s like, “Come on, guys.”

David Read:
“Did naughty things?” Oh, as a group under the command of her superior officer.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yeah but… And then we have “Upgrades.” I know they were under the influence of a device, but…

David Read:
“We’re here for you. Ready to go. Just say the word.” “Jack, get the hell out of my office.”

Yvie Cahill:
I feel like kicking a wall all of a sudden.

David Read:
Interesting.

Yvie Cahill:
So, what I would have wanted from this, obviously, is official confirmation that Carter is with Jack, obviously.

David Read:
Of course.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I didn’t even think of that.

Yvie Cahill:
There as support or something, even if it’s just a hint. Because it was hinted at in … is it “Trio?” I wanna say “Trio.” I’m so sure it was “Trio.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yes.

David Read:
Yeah, there was a deleted scene …

Yvie Cahill:
But it was a deleted scene.

David Read:
… that said that she’s dating someone in DC.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It’s canon.

Yvie Cahill:
And it was lent on quite heavily, and I think maybe there’s a photo of Jack in her office, but there is a photo of the whole team.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
There are some photos from the wedding from “200,” and I’m still suspicious.

Yvie Cahill:
There is, yes. Daniel’s wearing the same suit.

David Read:
Because those are the production photos that they took. That’s true.

Yvie Cahill:
I would like that sort of confirmation in an episode like this, where he’s there offering her support while she’s getting court-martialed. But it wouldn’t surprise me if this sort of episode had a bit of a twist at the end. So, it seems she’s done something naughty and things have gone awry, but it was actually some other group or whatever working against her to make her look bad. Does that make sense? A bit of a conspiracy type thing?

David Read:
OK. I see what you’re saying.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
That’d be cool.

David Read:
It could entirely be. For sure.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I like that.

David Read:
Sam has a heart of gold but, like any human, she can’t always see …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
She’s not perfect.

David Read:
… every potential outcome, despite the fact that she has the IQ of something ridiculously powerful. All right. Nicole, “The Red Shirt Diaries.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I’m back with Carl Binder, and also, “Red Shirt Diaries” is a great name. “Carl Binder wanted to do a story told from the POV of a red shirt,” which I actually quite like those red shirt stories. Those are some of my favorites. Rogue One is very much like that. So, that’s cool. “One of those ubiquitous no-names we lose over the course of an op who is mourned then quickly forgotten in the episode tag when the team is yucking it up in the cafeteria.”

Yvie Cahill:
I actually like that idea of a story.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I love it. My favorite thing, Halo: Reach is essentially Rogue One, where everyone’s gonna slowly start dying. It’s a great game. It’s about the unsung heroes of these events, because so many names get forgotten in the long run. You always hear about–

David Read:
Halo: Reach?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yeah, Halo: Reach, the game, is essentially Rogue One. And it came out a few years before.

David Read:
Is it in the Halo canon?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yeah. It was a prequel in the games. And it came out … it happens just before the first game. And it was one of the most beautiful, harrowing experiences I’ve ever had. And the idea of just having people who you know are gonna die and watching their story is so heartbreaking and fascinating. I’m a big fan.

David Read:
Atlantis — I’m trying to think — Atlantis never really did a “The Other Guys,” “Lower Decks” kind of episode that I can remember.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I think Zelenka is as “Lower Decks” as we’re gonna get. And I still don’t know who he is. Oh no, they did a kind of–

David Read:
The king of the red shirts.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“Letters from Pegasus” was kind of a “Lower Decks” look …

David Read:
But includes everybody.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
… the Atlantis thing.

David Read:
For sure.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
That was the one time we saw the “Lower Decks,” really.

Yvie Cahill:
That was more inclusive.

David Read:
“My boss is a great man.” As he runs around stubbing his toe.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Being so mean to her and she goes and loves him. That’s it.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Yvie Cahill:
That’s funny.

David Read:
Not to us, it’s not. “Did you hear what he did?”

Yvie Cahill:
Hard times.

David Read:
All right. Is it my turn?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yes.

Yvie Cahill:
It’s your turn.

David Read:
“Shepard DOA. Inspired by the 1950s thriller, Shepard D.O.A. would have seen John racing against time to find out how he was infected with a deadly toxin and ultimately who was responsible and why. And also, maybe,” maybe, “find an antidote.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Maybe. [inaudible]

Yvie Cahill:
So, this is like that Wraith bug but he’s a little bit more with it and able to launch his own investigation.

David Read:
That’s what I’m saying. It’s a little bit of that from Season Two and “Tabula Rasa” from Season Three.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
This is my only issue after doing …

David Read:
Everything has just arrived.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
… 15 seasons of Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis, is that the shows are so similar that you do have to start reusing material, because there’s only so much creativity there is.

Yvie Cahill:
Giving it a slightly different spin.

David Read:
No ideas are created in a vacuum. Everything …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Everything’s inspired by something else.

David Read:
… is inspired by something else. Either things come to us in a dream, where we’ve been chewing on other things that we’ve been interacting with and something new comes out of it. Or we’re thinking of a great piece of art that we love and it’s like, “You know what? How can I adapt an idea of that art into the canon that I’ve developed for this thing over here?” This is where a lot of ideas begin. So, “Shepard DOA.”

Yvie Cahill:
That’s true.

David Read:
“The Replacements, 609.” Yvie?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Sounds fun.

Yvie Cahill:
“Brad pitched out a story in which the team run afoul of an alien race and, while being pursued, end up victims of a temporal effect that catapults them six months into the future. They return to Atlantis to find they’ve been given up for dead and replaced. As they attempt to settle in to their new positions (and work with their replacements) the alien race indirectly responsible for their predicament pays Atlantis a visit…”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Reminds me of “The Return” in a way.

David Read:
“Get off of my sofa. Stop eating the food from my fridge.”

Yvie Cahill:
It is sounding familiar. There seem to be a lot of episodes that were pitched for this season that involved time travel.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
That’s so good, time travel.

David Read:
Mr. Gibbs, “Lots of time travel episodes in Season Six.”

Yvie Cahill:
But I’m not opposed to it.

David Read:
Well, if it works, it works.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
No, neither am I.

David Read:
I would rather have a Season Six Atlantis of time travel episodes than a Season Seven Star Trek: The Next Generation of, “Here’s my long lost cousin. Here’s my brother that I’ve never mentioned. Here’s my mother that I just never found out about.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Sounds like Grey’s Anatomy.

David Read:
It was one of the issues of TNG Season Seven, that people looked back on the show and as a whole–

Yvie Cahill:
Little bit trashy.

David Read:
It was …

Yvie Cahill:
Seems a little bit easy …

David Read:
… “Oh, we’ve got a lot of family episodes this season.”

Yvie Cahill:
… or something. I don’t know.

David Read:
But time is one that, as long as it’s internally consistent, you’re OK. Very cool. I love this idea. It’s what Continuum did, where we don’t immediately undo the time travel problem. We’re stuck– Instead of trying to undo the past, we stay where we are and try to press forward until we have no other choice. Prompted by our enemies.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It gives them the option of bringing back characters who are maybe deceased. So, it lets them broaden the story a little bit. Does that make sense? ‘Cause if they’re just moving forward — I guess it is sci-fi so anything can happen — but I think they’re opening up a lot of different avenues by going back. So, I think that’s an interesting idea.

David Read:
Raj Luthra asked me, “With this release of information, what does it mean for the future of Stargate franchise and the fans?”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
That’s what I thought.

David Read:
It means that Joe–

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I thought Amazon might have done something already.

David Read:
No. It means that Joe wanted to share some more information and entertain everybody.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I appreciate that Joe is coming out and being, “Hey, here’s his stuff.” Here’s his… keeping the fan base alive and constantly giving us food, is Stargate sustenance.

David Read:
Nourishment. Sustenance.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Nourishment.

Yvie Cahill:
He’s literally giving us …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“I like the yellow ones.”

Yvie Cahill:
… little treats. That’s why I would like to call him Uncle Joe because he’s giving us his little treats. He’s spoiling his Stargate nieces and nephews.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
[inaudible]

David Read:
15 years after the fact.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It’s never too late.

David Read:
I’d rather have the information now than never.

Yvie Cahill:
It’s not too late.

David Read:
Dan Ben, “There was a Dial the Gate interview where one of the showrunners said they would have rescued Weir and that she was somewhere out there.” So, Joe wrote … expanded on a scene from Stargate: Extinction that would have ultimately brought organic Weir back …

David Read:
… that she did not blow up on Asuras. If anything, she was stored off site.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
She was off site anyway. Wasn’t she in a ship? [inaudible]

David Read:
No freezer burn.

Yvie Cahill:
No freezer burn.

David Read:
No, the replicator Weir was. I’m talking about organic Weir that we last saw …

Yvie Cahill:
Organic, original.

David Read:
… with Oberon in, I think, 402.

Yvie Cahill:
OG.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I would have loved that.

David Read:
And Torri actually came to San Diego Comic Con to read those lines, So, it was really cool.

Yvie Cahill:
That’s awesome. That’s really cool.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“Mid-Season Two-Parter I and II” is me.

Yvie Cahill:
Yes, you’ve got a big description.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Slightly bigger. “The mid-season two-parter would have seen Sheppard’s team return to Atlantis following an op, only to discover it has been taken over by Wraith hybrids. But not just any wraith hybrids.” My God, I’m so excited. “While they were offworld, Michael,” my guy, my boo; frosted tip bro; love him so much, “who survived the events of Prodigal,” oh yes, “targeted the city with a biological attack that has transformed the Atlantis personnel into hybrids. Sheppard, McKay, Ronon and Teyla soon find themselves on the run from their former friends and a determined Michael out for revenge.” My God, I love Michael so much. Any excuse to bring him back.

David Read:
Connor never believed that the Michael that we saw in the Prodigal was the final Michael. He puts himself into check very quickly by getting himself trapped on Atlantis and he’s done for at that point. He never fully bought that ending for the character.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Neither did I.

David Read:
And this suggests that it was still …

Yvie Cahill:
There were plans.

David Read:
… a continuing story. What a great actor.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I am so in love …

Yvie Cahill:
Look, I’m OK with it just so long as it’s not …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
… with him.

Yvie Cahill:
… like Apophis 2.0 where they just keep on bringing him back and you’re just like, “Oh God, will you just die already?”

David Read:
“Just stay dead.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I never want Michael to die. No, never. Never. I wanna marry him. I’d be his Wraith hybrid queen. Connor Trinneer, pick me up.

David Read:
Why am I not surprised?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I love him, honestly. I’m not gonna lie, he’s soed hot. He’s so wonderful.

Yvie Cahill:
But I like the idea of them playing cat and mouse in Atlantis trying to escape him. That’s cool because there’d be so many little hidey holes and …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I’d love to see them all as hybrids as well.

Yvie Cahill:
… interesting parts that they might not have discovered yet. That could have been cool.

David Read:
And now all their friends have turned into zombies on the run from their former friends. They’re being chased.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Michael.

Yvie Cahill:
I can’t even think of how do they get out of that? How do they get out of that?

David Read:
So, McKay would have had to have developed an anti-hybrid retrovirus or they would have had to fly the puddle jumper around the sun really, really fast to undo the damage. That’s my dad’s argument every time there’s an issue with… “It’s OK. They can just fly around the sun and undo it.”

Yvie Cahill:
Superman [inaudible].

David Read:
Yeah. Or Klingon Bird-of-Prey or whatever.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Teyla became a Wraith queen for five minutes and then they undid that pretty fast, so you can do a lot of magic in sci-fi.

Yvie Cahill:
That’s true.

David Read:
Stargate Atlantis has a lot of flexibility in that regard in terms of– But that’s the show. All right. Is it my turn?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yes.

David Read:
OK. “Hamster Ball.” Intriguing. OK, very well. “Sometimes you come up with an idea fully formed. Other times, it may be nothing but a vision. In this case, a vision of the individual team members trapped in giant hamster ball-like containment vessels.” I’m sorry.

Yvie Cahill:
I’ll let that sink in.

David Read:
OK. “Compounding the problem is the fact that they are trapped in a small chamber, in direct line of the Stargate, meaning the next time the gate kawooshes, they risk total annihilation. How do they get trapped? How do they get out? And, most importantly, what the hell else happens in this episode? You’ll have to ask writer Alan McCullough.” I’ve been trying to get him on the show. Interesting.

Yvie Cahill:
That will have to be one of your questions about the giant hamster balls.

David Read:
One of my issues with Atlantis was we ran out of Stargate-type problems that dealt with the Stargate itself fairly early on in the show …

Yvie Cahill:
The actual gate?

David Read:
… with “38 Minutes.” And things that interact with the Gate more, we got a little bit of it in “The Shrine,” because they were all sitting on top of the gate and “There’s water down there, how do we deal with this? Is the water going to flow through the gate to Atlantis? No, because the gate understands the push and pull of the fluidity of whatever it is that’s trying to go through. There’s not an intent to push through.” Little things like that, I love, because the show is called Stargate. Interesting.

Yvie Cahill:
True. It basically is a member of the team, the Stargate, So, it’s nice when it’s got a story where it’s the center focus, if that makes sense. Or in this case, the villain, I guess.

David Read:
Have you guys ever done hamster ball races?

Yvie Cahill:
She’s gonna annihilate people.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
No.

Yvie Cahill:
No, I haven’t. I get …

David Read:
Have you seen it?

Yvie Cahill:
… horribly motion sick. So, it probably wouldn’t be a good thing for me to do. I’d be spinning …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I also get horribly motion sick.

Yvie Cahill:
… in a ball of my own, sick.

Yvie Cahill:
I was gonna say …

David Read:
I have done it.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
… Yvie and I would be both experiencing that. That’d be terrible.

Yvie Cahill:
Did you enjoy it, David?

David Read:
I did. We had a good time. We raced the hamster balls. It was a good time.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I feel like Yvie and I would be that thing where we’re slammed and then just spinning constantly while we’re… Like in that scene in The Incredibles when the kids are in that shield ball, and then the parents are getting squished over and over. That’d be me and Yvie.

Yvie Cahill:
That would be.

David Read:
Yvie, “Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow.”

Yvie Cahill:
Indeed. “McKay’s experiment with a time-traveling puddle jumper sends duplicate versions of the team both backwards and forwards in time.”

David Read:
A lot of time travel, my goodness.

Yvie Cahill:
“The story jumps between–” It really is.

Yvie Cahill:
“The story jumps between three different timelines, five years into the past, where one version of the team struggles to acquire the puddle jumper and undo the damage done without affecting the timeline, five years into the future, where Atlantis is under siege by the alien race introduced in the Daedalus variations, while another version of the team attempts to acquire the jumper so they can warn their past selves, and the present, where McKay continues to tweak his experiment with developments in each timeline, influence events in the others, en route to a mind-bending climax.”

David Read:
Interesting.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I always wanted the Daedalus variations to be …

Yvie Cahill:
That sounds good.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
… to finally get some extra stuff about it.

David Read:
“What’s going on there?” The comics pursued them ’cause everyone was like, “OK, what was that?”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It was really cool.

Yvie Cahill:
Yes.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It was a cool idea.

David Read:
It was really cool.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“What the hell is going on?” Even Jeff Gulka, Reetou Charlie, who just finished watching Atlantis, he was like, “Are they coming back?” And I was like, “We don’t got time, Jeff. Cry.”

David Read:
No. They were a nice thread for the future. Who were they? What were they up to?

Yvie Cahill:
That’s true.

David Read:
I was trying to figure out — ’cause I hadn’t read these — I was trying to figure out what image I should have for our discussion.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
You chose the paddock image.

David Read:
What I did was …

Yvie Cahill:
You genius.

David Read:
… I pulled up this page, and I typed Daedalus variations, and it came up, and I’m like, “OK, the aliens are somewhere in this season. I’ll go ahead and use the image that I have.” So, I was wondering when they were gonna come back.

Yvie Cahill:
I just had a thought. Having them back would be awesome. We never got an identity on the aliens from Grace in SG-1. How cool would it be if they were the same aliens?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
That’s what Hoshiman was saying in the chat.

David Read:
These guys, their ship was shaped like a Star Destroyer. So, they could have radically different ship designs, and in two different galaxies. Keep in mind, that was Milky Way, this is Pegasus.

Yvie Cahill:
That’s true.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
The Ancients were lurking in both galaxies as well. “We love to lurk.”

Yvie Cahill:
That’s true.

David Read:
Love to lurk. All right, “Hexed.” Nicole.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Goodness. “While visiting an alien community, Sheppard is cursed by a kooky local. At first, our heroes laugh off the incident until Sheppard runs into a spate of bad luck. Very bad luck. Shep whumpers rejoice!”

Yvie Cahill:
Love the word “whump.”

David Read:
So, whumpers are people who enjoy our heroes getting into physical injury.

Yvie Cahill:
Yes, action. It’s action sequences.

David Read:
So, interesting.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yes, brilliant.

David Read:
OK, “Hexxed.”

Yvie Cahill:
I like that it contains the word “kooky.”

David Read:
There was a Deep Space Nine episode about — I forget what it was. Maybe someone in the chat can tell me — There was a Deep Space Nine episode about luck, and maybe there was a scientific way to actually increase your odds of having good luck. I don’t remember what the episode was, but maybe someone in the chat knows DS9 more than I. I’ve seen the show twice through, but this is the opposite of that. So, what if there was a scientific explanation for the roll of the die in terms of fortune? So, physical situations, getting yourself ahead socially.

Yvie Cahill:
Interesting.

David Read:
“Entropy.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
You’re up, David.

Yvie Cahill:
That’s you.

David Read:
I don’t know why I keep losing track of myself. “In Season Five, Paul wanted to do a story in which the effects of the McKay-Miller gate bridge have serious other-worldly repercussions for the city but we ended up doing something similar in “Brain Storm” so we pushed this idea. So, I reimagined a version where a mishap with a ZPM triggers a subspace burst that disperses time fractals throughout Atlantis. And within these varying shards of warped spacetime, the rules of physics no longer apply.”

Yvie Cahill:
All right.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I like that.

So, similar to “Brain Storm” but different.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I liked “Brain Storm.” I like Jeannie. I like Rod.

Yvie Cahill:
Bring back Jeannie.

David Read:
It would have been an excuse to bring Jeannie back to perhaps help with this, or–

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Maybe we can get other Rods back.

Yvie Cahill:
The siblings reunited. That would be cool.

David Read:
“And it feels so good.”

Yvie Cahill:
The other Rod. I love that guy.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
More McKay.

Yvie Cahill:
It reminds me of–

David Read:
Rod.

Yvie Cahill:
I don’t know if you guys have ever watched Red Dwarf, but …

David Read:
I did.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yes.

Yvie Cahill:
… it reminds me of this episode, and I can’t remember what season it is. But there’s Rimmer, and then there’s cool Rimmer, and I can’t remember the name of his alter ego. But the team love him, and he’s this different, cool guy, and it was so funny. But it reminds me of that.

David Read:
Interesting.

Yvie Cahill:
All right, so, me with “Revenge.”

David Read:
“Revenge.”

Yvie Cahill:
“Revenge.”

Yvie Cahill:
“Sheppard and his team must mount an op to save Todd after he is captured by rivals. Re-assuming her role as a Wraith queen, Teyla leads the team aboard a hive ship in order to track down and rescue their unlikely ally.”

David Read:
Interesting.

Yvie Cahill:
That’s lovely.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I feel like the show really underutilized Ronon and Teyla a lot because obviously Atlantis was a bit more scientific and they’re more the fight–

David Read:
They’re the action-oriented.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
So, when Rachel became pregnant and then they incorporated it into the show for Teyla, that added a whole new storyline for her that was so interesting. I’m so happy that they did that for her. So, seeing her again, being able to do that would have been awesome. But where’s the Ronon stuff, guys? What’s Ronon doing?

Yvie Cahill:
There’s no mention of Ronon so far, is there?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Maybe they–

David Read:
No, he’s ruling an underwater Atlantis.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I was gonna say, maybe they were like, “Oh, yeah, [inaudible].”

Yvie Cahill:
And Atlantis, a different version.

David Read:
For sure.

Yvie Cahill:
But no, I like that. I like them buddying up to save Todd, their prior enemy.

David Read:
Our relationship with Todd has evolved in Stargate since Stargate: Extinction, 601, 602. So, this makes a lot of sense.

David Read:
“Payback.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Goodness, is that me? “Following devastating attacks on three other teams, Sheppard and …”

David Read:
Company.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“… co’s off-world investigation takes a surprising turn when they are attacked by a puddle jumper. On the run on an alien world, they’re pursued by an enemy who is able to predict their every move. Their mysterious pursuer is revealed to be Lieutenant Aiden Ford.” Rainbow’s back. “With a group of mercs armed with ancient tech, our heroes must find a way to turn the tables on their former friend and ultimately find out the surprising source of his all-too familiar resources.” I’m always going to be miffed at the… For me, I felt it was an unnecessary deletion of Aiden Ford from Atlantis. I didn’t feel …

Yvie Cahill:
Agreed.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
… that they needed to bin him off the way they did. It would have been really cool if they followed up on the enzyme and committed to “The Lost Boy” storyline, and brought him back in. But they just kept not bringing him back, and I’m like–

David Read:
That’s interesting.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It’s an absolute shame. I would have liked to see Ford again.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Yvie Cahill:
It would have been good. It would have been cool if they didn’t reveal that he was going to be in the episode, excluding his name from the credits at the beginning.

David Read:
Until halfway through.

Yvie Cahill:
That would have been cool.

David Read:
For sure. I would have loved to have seen Rainbow back for this. I love Gero’s nod to him in 501 “Search and Rescue.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
That was really good. I really appreciated that.

David Read:
That was really poignant.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It’s forever– So, Stargate has always been a team-based show. So, SG-1– I actually had a conversation with Rainbow about this a few years ago, where we were talking about how these are team-based shows, and that, when you get rid of someone, it just always feels a bit wrong. And you’ve gotta find a good reason to get people in and out. I’m still bitter about Jonas just being binned off when Daniel came back.

Yvie Cahill:
Me too.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
No need for it.

Yvie Cahill:
That was rough.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
And they got rid of Aiden, but I do think that Ronon kind of filled in his shoes. But what was Ronon really adding to the universe in his own way?

David Read:
It’s a fair point.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
There wasn’t as much incorporated so I feel like they could’ve continued with Ford.

David Read:
The original note for Ronon, and I remember Brad mentioning this, is that they wanted a character who was dangerous.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Teyla’s dangerous.

Yvie Cahill:
But she has a softer side too, I guess.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
So does Ronon.

Yvie Cahill:
So does Ronon. I don’t know.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I get it, but I don’t. I will always feel like Atlantis is the one that was a struggle for me to truly appreciate it, because of the way it was …

David Read:
I understand.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
… doing things. But Season Six I feel like would have patched a lot of the holes for me.

David Read:
“Turn of Events. 618.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
You.

David Read:
“With an uncooperative Ford now imprisoned on Atlantis, Sheppard’s team investigates the most likely source of the black market Ancient tech from [Episode] 215, ‘The Tower.’ There–”

Yvie Cahill:
Everyone’s favorite episode.

David Read:
You’re not supposed to say the quiet part out loud. It’s funny. “They discover Atlantis’ sister city is in the hands of a group of rogue Genii led by none other than Acastus Kolya, who we learned survived …”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
He keeps coming back.

David Read:
“… the events of Irresponsible thanks to a modified personal shield emitter.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I love Kolya, but my guy needs to die.

David Read:
I don’t know how I feel about that.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
He needs to stay dead. I’m sick of people coming back.

Yvie Cahill:
Agreed.

David Read:
At a certain point, you stretch the believability too thin when– I don’t know.

Yvie Cahill:
This would be, what, the third character or something that’s coming back? It’s good to have returning characters …

David Read:
I’m sensing a theme.

Yvie Cahill:
… but they’re dead. Leave some of them dead.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Rest in peace. Get us some other Genii people to pass it on.

David Read:
“It turns out Kolya has been busy consolidating his power base. Our team’s attempts to thwart him fail, necessitating a tactical retreat, but not before they obtain a crucial piece of information, the mirror location of the ancient ZPM factory hidden on Atlantis.” So, Joe and I talked about this. Where was the ZPM factory?

Yvie Cahill:
That’s a good question.

David Read:
And my response was it had to have been somewhere near Atlantis. If Atlantis is the crown jewel of the entire Ancient domain, it would have been nearby, if not in the city itself.

Yvie Cahill:
That, and they’re not outsourcing their ZPMs. They’re making them.

David Read:
No, these things have to be produced somewhere.

Yvie Cahill:
They’re making them nearby.

David Read:
I always thought, if anything, they could have, it could have been on the ocean floor in that mining facility on Lantea, in Season … was it Season Three? I assumed someplace like that you would have found them, relatively kept away.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I just had a silly outsourcing joke in my head where most of our stuff says “Made in China” on the bottom? The other one’ll be like… the ZPMs will be “Made on Earth.”

David Read:
“We found the location of the ZPM factory. It’s on Earth. Oh, no. It was under our noses the whole time.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
As always.

David Read:
“I feel so stupid.”

Yvie Cahill:
What does — I’m sure Nicole will remember — When Jack is speaking Ancient the second time around, and they go all the way to that planet, and then they end up having to come all the way back to Earth.

David Read:
All the way back.

Yvie Cahill:
It’d be like that.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
In “Lost City.” It’s hilarious. It’s one of my favorite moments.

David Read:
When he needed to get a battery, because he knew somehow that the one on Earth would be dead.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I would say with the “Turn of Events” episode, I think I would have preferred if they had brought in maybe… I like when there’s stuff from the Milky Way that sneaks over into the Pegasus, like the Goa’uld being on board the Daedalus and doing bad stuf. And in the Wraith virus was cool too. But I think that they could have maybe brought in the Lucian Alliance and maybe they’re trying to get all that cute, juicy technology over in the other galaxy and do that stuff.

David Read:
This is true. Did the Lucian Alliance have powerful enough hyperspace technology to get to Pegasus? I don’t remember.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I feel like they could have just snuck some human people …

David Read:
That’s true.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
… into the teams and just snuck them over.

David Read:
Lucian… You’re right. Absolutely.

Yvie Cahill:
Like undercover agents.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Also, if you get that ring, and you stab some people to be like, “I’m this person now. Let me go.”

David Read:
The Reol Ring.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yep.

David Read:
All right. Yvie.

Yvie Cahill:
I am “Pre-Finale.”

David Read:
“Pre-Finale.”

Yvie Cahill:
“Using the information gathered last episode, our heroes are finally able to access the city’s hidden ZPM factory. The room, it turns out, holds even more secrets: the locations of similar Ancient storehouses throughout the Pegasus galaxy. An exploration of one such seemingly long-abandoned chamber yields a shocking discovery. None other than Elizabeth Weir who has been kept ‘on ice’ since her capture by the Asurans.”

David Read:
Asurans.

Yvie Cahill:
Cool.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
This is all I want.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Yvie Cahill:
Yes, return of a legend.

David Read:
I had a feeling– For the Stargate: Extinction scripts, he had written return of Elizabeth …

Yvie Cahill:
That is cool. Actually, I think …

David Read:
… and unveiled it at San Diego Comic Con a few years ago.

Yvie Cahill:
… I think there’s a little bit more to this description after the text.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Someone made a good joke, by the way, saying turns out Einstein was Ancient and he was the manufacturing engineer. That would have been brilliant.

Yvie Cahill:
Yes.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I would have liked that.

Yvie Cahill:
That is awesome.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Thank you, Arnold, for that.

David Read:
“Interior.” We’ve got a script here. I think these are pages from Extinction. “Interior, derelict Asuran compound corridor.”

Yvie Cahill:
Are we going to read those?

David Read:
Sure. “Sheppard leads the team, McKay, Ronon, Teyla, and Beckett, down a darkened corridor.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Can I be McKay?

David Read:
“Their flashlights offering fitful illumination to their seemingly long-abandoned, though no less eerie, surroundings. McKay consults a handheld device that emits a sustained “hum.” Beckett, “How many of these locations were on that list?” Sheppard, “This is 8 of 12.” Teyla. Go ahead, Yvie.

Yvie Cahill:
“The Asurans may be long gone, but their technology still exists. It’s just a matter of locating their assets.”

David Read:
Ronon, “Who wants to bet we come up empty again?” “Suddenly, McKay brightens at the sound of a sustained low whine emitted from his device.” McKay.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“Sustained energy signature dead ahead.”

David Read:
“They press forward, weapons at the ready and…” “Interior, Asuran compound. It’s a lab. Enter a long-abandoned lab, unfathomable equipment, an Asuran data hub, and tucked away at the opposite side of the room, an upright stasis chamber, its surface opaque and impenetrable.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“Well, this looks promising and spooky,” says McKay.

David Read:
“McKay walks over to the data hub and it comes to life at his approach as he surveys the data.” “What’ve you got?” McKay.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“Not sure. Data related to some sort of extended experimentation. Original test subject, neural imprint, duplicate construct.”

David Read:
“Just don’t touch anything.” “Suddenly, the pod lights up with a hum.” Sheppard, “Rodney, what’d I just say?” McKay.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“It wasn’t me, probably.”

David Read:
“Sheppard, Teyla, Beckett, closest to the pod, advance as its shielding slides away and the amniotic steam releases on our shocked trio.”

Yvie Cahill:
“How is this possible?”

David Read:
“Reverse to reveal Elizabeth Weir lying in stasis.” “Elizabeth?” “Her eyes flicker open. It takes her a few seconds to orient herself, recognize the people standing in front of her.” Yvie?

Yvie Cahill:
“John, Teyla, Carson? How are you alive?”

David Read:
“I was going to ask you the same thing.” “Off their shocked expressions.” Fast-forward to “Atlantis, day.” Keller. Go ahead, Yvie.

Yvie Cahill:
“So, I’ve completed a full diagnostic twice over.”

David Read:
“Keller informs Sheppard, McKay, Teyla, Ronon, Beckett, and an equally astonished Elizabeth lying on an infirmary bed.” Keller.

Yvie Cahill:
“The tests confirm it. She’s Elizabeth Weir, flesh and blood and nanite-free.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“But Oberoth said she was dead.”

David Read:
“So, a human form replicator who tried to destroy Atlantis and a liar.”

Yvie Cahill:
“Elizabeth, what do you remember?”

David Read:
Go ahead, Yvie.

Yvie Cahill:
Me too? I’m talking to myself.

David Read:
That’s how it works in these things.

Yvie Cahill:
“I remember buying you all the time to escape, being captured, and then nothing. How long have I been gone?”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“A while.”

David Read:
A beat.

Yvie Cahill:
“Rodney? How many years?”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“Well, Supernatural is still airing new episodes.”

Yvie Cahill:
“So, I couldn’t have been gone that long.”

David Read:
“The others exchange surreptitious looks, at which point Woolsey enters the room.” “Elizabeth, it’s good to see you.”

Yvie Cahill:
“Thank you, Richard. And thank you for taking care of my people.”

David Read:
“It was an honor. Now, if there’s anything I can do for you, anything you need?”

Yvie Cahill:
“Lunch, and a new wardrobe.”

David Read:
“Of course.”

Yvie Cahill:
“And I’m going to need my office back.”

David Read:
“They all swing their looks his way.” Well, this is awkward.” “And off an awkward Woolsey…”

David Read:
All right. “With Elizabeth’s help–” Who was reading this one?

Yvie Cahill:
Me.

Yvie Cahill:
“With Elizabeth’s help, the team is able to gain access to an Asuran weapon specifically built to target Atlantis. Thus armed, Sheppard and co. pay a return trip to Kolya, determined to neutralize his threat once and for all. But they are too late. They arrive just in time to see the Ancient city rise up out of the ground and ascend, up into the sky and the stars beyond. Our heroes are already aware of its destination. Atlantis.”

David Read:
Atlantis is going to fight its sister city. I always assumed that Atlantis was, as we established, the crown jewel of the Ancient domain. That other Atlantis in that other ancient city from the tower was in fact another Atlantis, if it was identical. ‘Cause they didn’t just have these things. It was one of a kind. So, there was a time travel accident or something.

Yvie Cahill:
They don’t have an Atlantis factory like a ZPM factory?

David Read:
Can you imagine? OK. You ready for this one, Nicole? You wanna read us the “Season finale?”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yeah.

Yvie Cahill:
You got three paragraphs, boo.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Goodness, let’s go.

David Read:
Take the first one, I’ll do the second one, Yvie can do the third.

Yvie Cahill:
All right.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“Sheppard’s team return to Atlantis with a dire warning, only to be informed that long range scanners have picked up the sister city. And it’s headed straight for them. All off-world teams are recalled. It’s going to be all hands on deck as the city prepares for war and the sister city makes its inexorable approach. We are treated to some classic character-centered moments as the city readies for what will be their biggest battle, against a better equipped, better prepared opponent. Finally, it is time!”

David Read:
“Atlantis rises up, off the surface of the ocean, and makes its descent, up through the stratosphere, beyond the exosphere, taking up a planetary orbit. And when the sister city appears, Atlantis launches its jumpers and drones. Their opponent responds in kind. The most epic battle in Stargate history is joined. Sheppard skillfully pilots his jumper into the heart of the enemy city and lands on a pier. His team disembarks, Asuran weapon in tow, determined to finish the job they set out to complete last episode. But they’re on the clock and running out of time, facing down enemy soldiers and drone strikes as they desperately seek to set up the Asuran weapon as close to critical systems as possible. But they’re not the only ones running out time. Atlantis, outgunned by a foe that has been preparing for war, suffers heavy damage. Even if our team succeeds in their mission, it looks like it will be a pyrrhic victory.” Is that a pun?

Yvie Cahill:
And then…

David Read:
OK.

Yvie Cahill:
I don’t know. “And then, a fleet of hive ships drop out of FTL and concentrate their fire on the enemy ship. It’s Todd. He and his fleet take the pressure off Atlantis, buying Sheppard and his team enough time to initiate the Asuran weapon and retreat back to the jumper, making good their escape as, behind them, the weapon initiates, setting off a chain reaction of explosions that claim the enemy city. Atlantis returns to the planet’s surface. Sheppard thanks Todd. Wraith and human achieve an “understanding and peace finally returns to the Pegasus Galaxy.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
We just needed one more season, guys.

Yvie Cahill:
End of Season Six.

David Read:
I genuinely have goosebumps.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I’m not gonna lie, that was very … I felt like I was reading a book and I was in there and I was like, “Whoa!”

David Read:
I got goosebumps.

Yvie Cahill:
Me too. An hour’s just flown by and I …

Yvie Cahill:
We just did a whole season of Stargate in an hour.

Yvie Cahill:
… I have the ability, and I don’t know if you guys are the same, but when I read text, I actually picture the story playing out in my mind …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I’m the same.

Yvie Cahill:
… like it was a TV show. I know that someone like Adam really struggles visualizing things like that. So, I know that not everyone has this gift, but I’m picturing this battle in my head and it is fricking epic.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It is so epic in my head.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It’s nice and low budget in there. I can afford all that cool stuff.

Yvie Cahill:
Low budget in there. Yes.

David Read:
I’m picturing it with 2009-level visual effects. So, it’s relatively low budget in the scheme of things.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It’s free given that it’s in my brain.

Yvie Cahill:
I’m actually also picturing the understanding between Sheppard and Todd.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Such bros.

Yvie Cahill:
This “Thank you,” and I’m picturing some sort of embrace of some description. But I think I’m picturing …

David Read:
Of hands?

Yvie Cahill:
… like Jaffa handshake.

David Read:
Jaffa handshake. There we go. That’s better. Absolutely.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Didn’t Todd get done in the hand where he can no longer feed on people?

David Read:
Was that Todd?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yeah, it was Todd.

David Read:
Did Todd … So, Todd …

Yvie Cahill:
I think it was Michael, wasn’t it?

David Read:
I know that it was Michael. Michael no longer needs to feed.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Michael? I thought Todd did it in Season Five, but I don’t remember necessarily. I think they … Didn’t they convert his ship to try and make it so that all of the people on his ship didn’t need to feed anymore?

David Read:
That was Season Two. That was “Allies.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
No, but there was a moment …

Yvie Cahill:
No, I think it–

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
… in Season Five, I swear.

Yvie Cahill:
I’m sort of remembering something …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Before it comes back. Someone in the chat, tell me if I’m crazy.

Yvie Cahill:
… from Season Five as well.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I remember watching the Season Five thing where for half the people it goes wrong and for half the people it goes right on the ship, and there’s a horrible jump scare where this bald, terrifying Wraith leaps out at you. And I remember leaning really in and then suddenly being thrown back by the jump scare. And I know it was Season Five because I had to watch that on YouTube in parts because I was 10 and didn’t know any better.

David Read:
Interesting. It’s entirely possible. I don’t remember all of it.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Reversed treatment caused the virus. So, he’s reverted back apparently. Thank you.

David Read:
So, he is a Wraith now, or he’s–

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
That’s what someone’s saying. That’s what Oliver is saying.

David Read:
OK. Interesting.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“They were [inaudible] by the end of the episode. Thank you. I wasn’t sure how they left that, because it’s been so long.

David Read:
If we can come to an understanding with the Wraith, the caveat to that would be “Don’t eat us anymore.”

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I’m not gonna lie. I’m gonna quote Colin Robinson from What We Do In The Shadows and say, “I don’t live to feed, I feed to live.” It’s not their fault that their lunch is us.

David Read:
No, it’s not. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that we can continue to let them continue …

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Eat us.

David Read:
… eating us.

Yvie Cahill:
No.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
But I think they are capable of being peaceful, ’cause look, Todd, he’s all right. It’s possible.

David Read:
The Atlantis relaunch novels that Fandemonium put out, the Stargate Atlantis, I think the Legacy series, if I’m not mistaken, really give a deeper insight into Wraith culture. The girls who did that were really keen on the Wraith, and I think that they’re worth reading if that’s something that you’re interested in. So, you can go and get those, for sure. I think they’re available as e-books too.

Yvie Cahill:
Handy. All right.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Actually, I think that you can get them if you have Kindle Unlimited. There are a lot of Stargate graphic novels and stuff that are available as well via the comic section. It should be under there. Any stuff that continues on the Atlantis universe storylines is there.

Yvie Cahill:
Handy.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I learned that at Gatecon.

David Read:
Really? OK.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
During one of our interviews.

David Read:
I must thank Joseph Mallozzi for compiling this.

David Read:
‘Cause this is really cool. I’m adding it to the description now where people can go and read it, but I wanted us all to read it together first time through.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I like to think this is all pretty canon in Stargate, and this will always be for me, when I think about Atlantis ending, I’m gonna think about this when I think about the ending.

Yvie Cahill:
It’ll be canon in my head for sure right now.

David Read:
For sure. This was approximately their intent.

Yvie Cahill:
This is what the creators envisioned, So, it probably would have played out similarly.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It’s sad that they don’t feel it’s going on anymore. They can’t finish it, they can’t do it, so he’s given us this gift, and I appreciate that. If Amazon is planning on doing anything with Stargate, then …

David Read:
Acknowledge this.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
… it would be nice if they did that. I’ve always disliked the approach of just bringing in new people and not really appreciating the older parts of the fandom and I really hope that if Amazon does anything, they’re able to nurture a healthy relationship with both new and old writers and fans all together. So, that’d be nice.

Yvie Cahill:
I just hope they’re able to take the opportunity to tie up some of the loose ends from your Atlantis universe, things like that.

David Read:
Figure out what Destiny’s mission was. Bring some guest stars in of the original cast. But do tell a new story moving forward.

Yvie Cahill:
Absolutely. I don’t begrudge them that, but it would be nice to at least give us old fans some conclusions to some of the preexisting stories.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
It would be really nice.

David Read:
Absolutely. Guys, thank you for taking this journey with me. This is really cool.

Yvie Cahill:
This was fun.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Thank you, everybody, for showing up last minute.

David Read:
I was not expecting… I just found out about this thanks to Linda, 13-14 hours ago, and I was like, “Oh crap, we have something to say.”

Yvie Cahill:
We gotta jump on this while it’s hot.

David Read:
Jump on this. That’s it, red hot.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I was going to sleep, and I saw it briefly, and I was like, “Oh, David will say something.” And then David was like, “No,” and I was like, “Oh, I’ll be sleeping.”

David Read:
It was like 1:55 AM for her.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I was so tired.

Yvie Cahill:
I saw Linda’s Facebook message, and I had a brief look, but I was getting ready for work so I didn’t have the opportunity to read it. And then you guys were chatting between the two of you while I was driving to the office, and then when I got to work there was pages and pages of texts, and I was like, “What is going on?”

David Read:
Red alert. That’s funny.

David Read:
All right. This was in the chat so thank you gategappers.

Yvie Cahill:
I will go DEFCON 5?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I will say, thanks–

David Read:
DEFCON 5 is the lowest.

Yvie Cahill:
OK, DEFCON 1.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Thank you for DEFCON 1.

David Read:
There you go. You’ve activated global defenses.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Thank you, everybody, for being so cool and partaking, and being ready to go.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
This is awesome.

David Read:
If you have enjoyed this episode and wanna see more Stargate content on YouTube, please click that like button. It does make a difference with the show and will continue to help us grow. Please also, consider sharing this video with a Stargate Atlantis friend, and if you wanna get notified about future episodes, click the subscribe icon. And giving the bell icon a click will notify you the moment a new video drops, and you’ll get my notifications of any last-minute guest changes. And clips from this live stream will be released over the course of the next few weeks on the Dial the Gate YouTube channel. Nicole, really appreciate you taking the time out of your afternoon. Yvie, the time out of your evening. I’m glad you could be here.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
And if you guys wanna catch us with this chemistry, come check out Wormhole X-Tremists on Sundays. We stream.

Yvie Cahill:
Nice, neat plug.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
We’re somewhat polite to each other, and occasionally David and I have a spat and Yvie is the referee. And it’s really cute.

Yvie Cahill:
And I also have loads of really corny jokes.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Yvie’s got lots of corny jokes.

David Read:
Lots of dad jokes.

Yvie Cahill:
Lots of really great moments.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Lots of really great moments, and we’d appreciate you guys coming over and saying hi. We’re streaming this Sunday again so come and say hi.

David Read:
We’re doing… What are our episodes?

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
“2001.”

Yvie Cahill:
We are doing … “2001” is the second episode..

David Read:
And “Between Two Fires.”

Yvie Cahill:
And then the first one is– Yes. Bye-bye to the Tollan.

David Read:
Very cool.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Ripperoni.

David Read:
Please join me tonight, June the 5th at 6:00 PM Pacific Time for Peter Flemming. We’re gonna be talking live with Malcolm Barrett of Stargate SG-1. More from me today. I’ve actually got a pre-recorded show that’s recording five hours from now so I’m gonna take a nap.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Go take a nap.

Yvie Cahill:
Please do. Recharge.

David Read:
All right, OK.

Yvie Cahill:
Recharge those batteries.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
I’m gonna get back to reading my book ’cause I don’t have work today ’cause the servers all went down.

David Read:
You guys take care of yourselves. Thank you for sharing this with me. This was a really cool unexpected present to open. So, thank you again, Joseph Mallozzi.

Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo:
Thank you.

David Read:
And thank you, Nicole and Yvie. My name is David Read for Dial the Gate, and I will be seeing you on the other side.