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Timecodes
0:00 – Opening Credits
0:57 – Welcome and Episode Outline
02:34 – Guest Introduction
03:41 – Hathor Hosts
07:37 – Peter Williams, Movies, and Thoughts of Cliff Simon
13:55 – Additional Guest Announcements
20:25 – Andee Frizzell
20:19 – Booking Guests
25:19 – Peter DeLuise on Dial the Gate
26:19 – Guest Reveal
31:44 – Challenges of Recording a Show
35:59 – Pop! Hathor Figurine
40:17 – SG4
42:39 – If you could use the Goa’uld symbiote for anything, what would it be?
43:11 – Have you and David considered a joint interview with a cast or crew member?
44:12 – Which pastry is a “must try” when visiting your husband’s bakery?
48:33 – How would you imagine Hathor’s human host if she were released?
52:49 – What are some of the best fan gifts that you have received?
55:46 – Who was more demanding to play, Hathor or Dotty?
1:04:15 – Where would you want to fly to once it is safe to do so?
1:06:13 – What kind of fragrance would Hathor sell?
1:07:02 – Would you consider having a member of the original SG film as a guest on your show?
1:08:23 – If you could have played a different SG character, who would you have chosen?
1:08:59 – What was your most challenging day to film on SG-1?
1:12:24 – Costume Designer Mistreatment
1:21:23 – An Uncomfortable Audition
1:25:46 – Diversity in Film and Television
1:30:44 – How Roles Impact Others
1:32:36 – Thank You, Suanne!
1:33:38 – Post-Interview Housekeeping
1:37:37 – End Credits

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TRANSCRIPT
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David Read:
Hello everyone, welcome to Dial the Gate, Episode 80. My name is David Read, thanks so much for joining. Suanne Braun of Hathor Hosts, and of course, Hathor herself, Stargate SG-1, is with us for this episode. Before we bring the lovely Miss Suanne Braun in, I’m gonna advise that if you like Stargate and you wanna see more content like this on YouTube, it would mean a great deal if you click the Like button. It really makes a difference with YouTube’s algorithm and will definitely help the show grow its audience. Please also consider sharing this video with a Stargate friend. If you wanna get notified about future episodes, click the Subscribe icon. Giving the Bell icon a click will notify you the moment a new video drops and you’ll get my notifications of any last-minute guest changes. This is key if you plan on watching live. Clips from this live stream will be released over the course of the next several days on both the Dial the Gate and GateWorld.net YouTube channels, more specifically, GateWorld.net. For this episode, Suanne is gonna be updating us on her goings-on with her show. We’re gonna be sharing some more Hathor memories from SG-1 and she’s gonna reveal her full guest list for Season Two of her show at youtube.com/hathorhosts. After my questions with her, I’ll turn it over to the fan questions that are being organized right now. So, if you’re watching with us live, go to YouTube.com/dialthegate, submit your questions to the mods. I’ll do my best to get it asked on the show. Suanne Braun of Hathor Hosts, welcome back.

Suanne Braun:
Thank you so much and thanks for having me and congratulations, show 80.

David Read:
Show 80.

Suanne Braun:
Wow. You’ve been busy, boy.

David Read:
We’ve discussed before, scheduling is such a bear. Like you, you find your groove in the mayhem. You feel like you’re at the center, like the ending of Twister, when they’re both tethered to the pipes that run into the ground and you’re looking up the funnel. That’s how I feel like I am in this wind tunnel but having all these guests come in and out. It’s such a great experience and it really means a lot to me, Suanne, to have you back. I don’t feel so much like I’m talking with an actor so much as I’m talking to a colleague when I have you on. It’s wonderful to have you back.

Suanne Braun:
Thank you so much. That really means the world to me and it’s so lovely to be back.

David Read:
So, Season Two, Hathor Hosts.

Suanne Braun:
Yes.

David Read:
How are things going?

Suanne Braun:
Things are good. As you said, scheduling has been a bit challenging because the world is not in the same place that it was, thankfully, when we started the show a year ago. I just wanna double-check. Can you hear me properly ’cause I just got a little thing going.

David Read:
Absolutely, you sound great.

Suanne Braun:
OK, good. Basically, when we started in March last year the whole world had ground to a halt. Nobody was working and everyone was available, which I’m eternally grateful for because that meant so many people were able to come on the show. Since then, people have started going back to work and very often, in film schedules, things change. Not only does that happen now; with COVID, there is such a nightmare. If somebody on a set gets COVID, they have to shut it down or that department down anyway. Invariably, the whole production. Every production works slightly differently. I have the wonderful Mike Dopud coming up on Wednesday night. We were originally meant to do this two weeks ago, but exactly that happened. He’s currently on a project and there was a COVID case, so they had to reshuffle dates and all sorts of things. But hopefully, God willing, it’ll all work out. Gods willing, I should say.

David Read:
Gods willing.

Suanne Braun:
System Lords willing.

David Read:
System Lords. Anyone out there listening, please make it work as best as you can.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly.

David Read:
No, absolutely. I do wanna get to the heart of this. You have come to the show to share your full guest list for Season Two.

Suanne Braun:
That’s right.

David Read:
I really wanna get right to it.

Suanne Braun:
It’s a world exclusive, David. Initially, I was gonna try and just do eight episodes, but because I can’t count, it’s actually nine in total. Not good with the numbers, me. So, for anyone who has not seen the first two episodes, our first guest of Season Two was the wonderful Peter Williams, who was Apophis. Last week, we had the fantastic Rainbow Sun Francks in a marathon interview, which was so fabulous.

David Read:
He is wonderful.

Suanne Braun:
Isn’t he great?

David Read:
He’s a great guy.

Suanne Braun:
I was a bit nervous about that because I don’t really know him. We’d met and sort of said hi at conventions, but our paths hadn’t really crossed. When I asked him, you and I have talked about this, it’s always easier when you have a relationship with someone to go, “Look, this is the show I’m doing. Would you wanna be on it? I’m not gonna throw you under the bus, I’ll take good care of you.” I didn’t know if he knew of the show, if he knew who I was, what he would be like. What a delightful surprise; we just got on like a house on fire. I adore him and love him and we’re friends for life now.

David Read:
He’s one of those genuine human beings. After knowing him for a little bit, I’d lay down my life for you, pal. He’s just real. That comes off as suggesting that a lot of talent aren’t, but that’s not true. He’s always been someone who has really been welcoming of the fan community. Ever since he was placed into a recurring role in Season Two, all of us have had his back. It was really great for him to share a lot of those stories and be open with you on your show. I think you really hit that one out of the park.

Suanne Braun:
Thank you. Thank you very much, really.

David Read:
Peter Williams! I’ve been trying to get him on Dial the Gate, and I haven’t been able to reach him. Good on you for getting him in. Another fascinating human being, fascinating stories.

Suanne Braun:
Absolutely fascinating. I’m so happy that he did it because he was initially keen and then we had talked about last year. He said, “I’ll do another one if we do the System Lords again.” ‘Cause he had such a good time with Jacqueline, Cliff and myself. We had planned to do that, but obviously that will no longer happen. God, it still feels so surreal to me.

David Read:
For Cliff, I know. I got the news and it was… I went out to lunch; it was my day off. I think Thursday at this point. I was one of the last few to find found out before the news broke to the world.

Suanne Braun:
Me too.

David Read:
Darren and I basically raced to get the news online. Darren with his words and me with my speech. I don’t know if you saw my video?

Suanne Braun:
I did.

David Read:
It was awful. It was absolutely awful. These things, they hit you like a rock at the side of the head. But at the same time, he lived. He lived every day to the fullest. You can’t deny that he did that.

Suanne Braun:
Absolutely.

David Read:
Whatever he was doing, he did it. He passed on while doing what he loved.

Suanne Braun:
100%.

David Read:
If we aren’t fortunate enough to die in our sleep at 100, what other way is there, really?

Suanne Braun:
His funeral is one of the most beautiful but difficult things I’ve ever attended. One of the recurring things, and they had loads of photographs of his life and family pictures, not of his work. What was so apparent was the water was his temple. He loved the water. The small comfort for me is that he died doing something, as you said, that he loved. The memorial was on the beach. It was so perfect for him. Of course, death is really for the living, in a way, because we’re the ones who have to get on with it. What happens with me is every now and then, for example, I’m researching Mike Dopud. As I said, it’s my guest this coming Wednesday. I was doing lots of research on him and they did a project together, Project Eden, and suddenly there were all these pictures of Cliff and I was, “Oh.”

David Read:
I know.

Suanne Braun:
It’s when it just sort of hits you in the gut and then I have a good cry. Like now, sorry. Oh my God. I’m so grateful for the time that we had and for the incredible interview that I was able to do with him and to talk with him and that he gave me so much time, all of us, so much time. I’m really grateful for that.

David Read:
For any of us who had the chance to cross paths with him, even for a little bit, was just terrific. I am, like you, one of the lucky ones. I’m so glad that you got to attend that. Was that in California?

Suanne Braun:
It was.

David Read:
The memorial? Wow. That’s wonderful. All my best to Colette. I don’t have any way to get in touch with her. I hope that she saw the memorial service that we put on for him. That was extraordinary; the turnaround that happened for the episode that we did. We were gonna have him on.

Suanne Braun:
I remember.

David Read:
Then it was like, “Well, what do we do?” Before I’d even gotten home, it was like, “There’s no question, the show will go on.” It’s just gonna shift focus from having him tell us memories to us sharing our memories of him. The fans just came out of the woodwork and submitted wonderful stuff. That’s what art does when it makes a connection with a human being. Human to human, through this medium that we call movies and television.

Suanne Braun:
Absolutely.

David Read:
You cannot separate SG-1 and Cliff Simon. It’s not possible.

Suanne Braun:
I agree. I thought your tribute was absolutely magnificent.

David Read:
Thank you.

Suanne Braun:
I know Colette is aware of it. I’m not sure if she’s watched it yet because I think at the moment it’s all too raw.

David Read:
And insane.

Suanne Braun:
I’m sure in due course, she will sit down and watch it.

David Read:
That’s great to hear.

Suanne Braun:
With that little detour…Sorry about that.

David Read:
What I don’t think I’ve revealed is that I sat down with him and Diana Botsford, one of the Stargate novelists, several years ago. We recorded a commentary for Stargate: Continuum, and it is unpublished.

Suanne Braun:
Really?

David Read:
I’m hoping to get Diana’s permission to adapt it. We were working on a different project and I’m hoping to adapt it for Dial the Gate so that people will get to sit down with Cliff and watch his movie with him. I’m really excited.

Suanne Braun:
That would be great. I hope that happens.

David Read:
That’s phase two or three of Dial the Gate, we are gonna start doing commentaries. I wanna sit down with you and watch Hathor from beginning to end and things like that. I think it’s gonna be fun.

Suanne Braun:
Oh, that would be really interesting.

David Read:
That’s the point. Anyway, getting back to the guest list.

Suanne Braun:
We have the wonderful Mike Dopud coming up on Wednesday and then the week after that…

David Read:
That’s gonna be the 28th of April.

Suanne Braun:
Yes, correct. Then Cinco de Mayo is going to be the wonderful David Nykl.

David Read:
Oh, wonderful. He’s such a treat.

Suanne Braun:
Isn’t he? I love him. We spent some time together in Australia and New Zealand and we really hit it off and had loads of laughs. I’ve sort of seen him at conventions and stuff like that but because we weren’t sort of in the same part of Stargate, we’re not often put together. I was so delighted when he said “yes.” I think that’s gonna be thrilling to uncover his career. They’re all so prolific. They don’t seem to stop working.

David Read:
Correct.

Suanne Braun:
I’m like, “I need to move to Canada.” I’m not working enough.

David Read:
I can certainly understand that perspective, that situation, with him in particular. One of the pitfalls for me when we had him on was that I know next to nothing about Arrow. He is really, really active in that sphere. It will behoove you to have more information on that, certainly than I did.

Suanne Braun:
I know. I have to say, sorry to interrupt you, one of the challenges that I think I hadn’t quite anticipated hosting this show was I was, “Yeah, I wanna talk to actors about how they got the job and how this happens,” and blah, blah, blah. Now I realize that there’s loads and loads and loads of shows that either we don’t get in Britain or that I know nothing about. Arrow, I’ve seen, I’ve dipped in and out ’cause my husband’s a big fan. I spend half my time researching my guests. I try and start as early as possible, researching all the different roles and trying to get a handle on what the character was, who they played, the trajectory. It’s an inordinate amount of work.

David Read:
I was reading through the comments, especially with Rainbow’s, where they were making comparisons of our shows. Your show is a more holistic view of them, whereas mine is taking a distinctive Stargate slice, coupled with where they came from. Yours is much more research-intensive. The questions that you ask are clearly researched from their backgrounds in terms of the roundness of work that they have done. I think that that’s one of the benefits to watching your show, because you get those other perspectives as well.

Suanne Braun:
Oh, thank you. I feel what’s so great about both our shows is we cover similar ground, but not at all the same. If somebody’s really keen on only finding out more about Stargate and the world of Stargate, there’s no one better, David. Honestly, you’re so good at this. But for me, as I said initially, I didn’t even really think about it too much. It was more about being an actor, speaking to other actors, the kind of things that I’ve always wanted to know. Often, you’ll watch somebody on Graham Norton or on Oprah or whatever, and you’re like, “How did that happen? How did they end up there? What led to that? What were they like as kids?” Those are the things. Inside the Actors Studio used to be one of my favorite programs.

David Read:
Absolutely. It’s like an early podcast.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly, combine all those things and hopefully it’s been something that people are enjoying.

David Read:
It is.

Suanne Braun:
It’s certainly been great to keep me out of trouble and keep me on track.

David Read:
One of the benefits, and I think you tapped into it with Inside the Actors Studio, is we, you, me, the likes of Joe Rogan– we have the benefit of doing long-form content that really gets into very, very specific areas that you can’t get on a Graham Norton or an Oprah. Publicity is the large reason that they’re there. A company is sponsoring them to go and promote and plug this thing. Whereas we don’t get to hear so much about, “OK, what is it that makes you tick?” “What is a role that tested you in ways that you didn’t expect,” like you shared with telling that particular story that you did with the gal who was…

Suanne Braun:
Alison?

David Read:
Yes, exactly. That beautiful story about a real person. That’s what I love about these long-form discussions; you can really get down in there and go, “OK, let’s take that aside for a few minutes and see how that helps change you or that helped make you grow as a human being. How I can apply that to my life in some way?”

Suanne Braun:
Hopefully.

David Read:
Or not. Maybe don’t go there.

Suanne Braun:
Or not, exactly. Sometimes it’s, “Oh, don’t do that.” After the lovely David Nykl we have the Wraithqueen herself, Miss Andee Frizzell, who I know has been a guest on your show.

David Read:
She’s in, I think, Thailand right now, if I’m not mistaken.

Suanne Braun:
That’s right. Lucky!

David Read:
She’s gonna be on May 12th?

Suanne Braun:
We haven’t 100% set the dates. After David Nykl, the dates and the order may change ever so slightly because most of these people are working. However, I’m aiming to try and do Wednesday nights if possible because that seems to have worked best for everyone this time round. It was Tuesday last time. Keep up on Twitter and I’ll always try and update my Instagram, my Twitter and my Facebook pages with information. But sometimes last-minute things happen. People get ill or schedules change or flight changes, whatever.

David Read:
Schedules change all the time.

Suanne Braun:
We try and we try, as you well know, scheduling is a nightmare. I feel very lucky that we’re able to do this and people are willing to give up their time to be on the show. I’m willing to work around it.

David Read:
Have you met Andee?

Suanne Braun:
I have. She and I met, I can’t remember what convention it was. I wanna say in Chicago, Creation or maybe Dragon Con? I completely loved her. We did a panel together and all I remember is I think we laughed more than everyone else. People were just like, “You guys should have a double act. You’re hilarious together.” We both love telling stories. We both love playing the fool and kind of being the butt of the joke, self-deprecating humor. I was like, “She’s good people. I love her.”

David Read:
She’s great people.

Suanne Braun:
I haven’t seen or spoken to her for about 10 years now? I don’t know how long it was.

David Read:
Wow.

Suanne Braun:
Maybe five, six, seven, eight. I can’t even remember when that Creation was. I’ve only ever done one Creation in Chicago and one Dragon Con. I’m desperate to do more cons in America. Putting that out there.

David Read:
Gatecon 2022.

Suanne Braun:
Fingers crossed.

David Read:
Please. Absolutely.

Suanne Braun:
I’m really looking forward to that one and to catching up with her life and her career and what she’s been up to and what she’s doing and watching your show as some of my research for sure.

David Read:
Nearly the first hour was just about her life in Thailand now in a COVID world. She is the eternal optimist. She never has a negative thing to say about anything or anyone and she’s just light. Which is so interesting, as a life-sucking vampire, you get that dichotomy with her, for sure. Any time that she walks in the room, she just takes it over. She’s magnificent. I’m really glad you got her.

Suanne Braun:
Me too and I’m delighted. I’m a bit low on women this season. It’s been quite difficult. The girls are all very busy.

David Read:
Isn’t that wonderful?

Suanne Braun:
It’s great. It’s really great. It’s been quite difficult to try and get people to either commit or some people are just not keen. That’s the other thing. Everyone handles what has happened in the world in the last 12 months in a very different way. For some people, it’s been completely traumatic and they just wanna curl up in a ball and not be seen. Some actors have carried on working and are fine. Others are completely freaked out. I totally respect that. You can only ask.

David Read:
Correct. They’ll either not respond or they’ll say no.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly.

David Read:
It’s the not responding ones that are just frustrating for me.

Suanne Braun:
Me too.

David Read:
You’re under no obligation to respond, obviously, but if you don’t want me to keep sending messages to your agent just tell me no.

Suanne Braun:
David, I hear that so clearly. There is one actor who I will not mention but who I have written to three times. We are friends. That’s what’s even more shocking. At least I thought we were friends. I can see he’s read all the messages.

David Read:
Oh no. That’s even, aw.

Suanne Braun:
I know, talk about “Chhht.” Talk to the hand.

David Read:
Like you say, we’re all digesting this situation a little differently. This is off topic, but I’ve had friends in my life that I’m really tight with and then one of our mutual friends gets sick and they’re like, “Oh, I don’t do sickness.” It’s like, “What?” “I don’t do hospitals or anything like that.” Basically, certain things for certain people at certain times, they’re just not there for. It’s always important to be aware of that, I think.

Suanne Braun:
Absolutely.

David Read:
Maybe there’s a really good reason. Maybe they’ll turn around at some point and say, “You know what? I’m so sorry. I read this when I was driving and I shouldn’t have been and I put it away and I forgot about it.” Those things happen.

Suanne Braun:
I invited the lovely Anne Marie DeLuise. She’s someone I don’t really know. We’ve met once or twice, so again, I was like, “I’m not sure if you know who I am, but this is what I do. Here’s the show.” she sent the most beautiful reply. It was a no, but for a very, very valid reason. She gave her reason and I immediately replied and said, “Completely and utterly understand. It’s an open invitation If you ever want to come on, but also totally fine if that doesn’t change. Thank you so much for being so honest and jumping straight back at me. I really appreciate that.” Jumping straight in there.

David Read:
No, that in itself deserves respect, absolutely. We had Peter on a month ago and it was wonderful. You wanna talk about someone with a wealth of knowledge; the man has directed more episodes of Stargate than anybody. Man, was he cool.

Suanne Braun:
I know. I saw that and I’ve been meaning to watch that ’cause he’s someone I would love to chat to. But I don’t actually know him. I never worked with him.

David Read:
I will make that connection.

Suanne Braun:
Put in a good word.

David Read:
I will indeed. He’s someone who has always been very special to me. I’ve watched him since I was a kid on various programs, SeaQuest and such. There’s no one greater than Peter DeLuise. He talks about his dad with such reverence and talking about Urgo, which I’m sure you’ve probably seen. What a great episode. Andee, all right.

Suanne Braun:
Andee and then the following three, four guests actually, we’re moving slightly away from the Stargate realm. The next two guys are both really successful English actors: Will Kemp, who is in the hit series Reign, as in rule, like a queen’s reign rather than rain. He also is gonna be in The Princess Switch 3 with me, which is how we met. We had a little chat and that’s coming out, he plays, I’m not sure I’m allowed to say who he plays in The Princess Switch 3.

David Read:
It’s not even announced yet, honestly.

Suanne Braun:
But he’s a fantastic actor.

David Read:
OK.

Suanne Braun:
I think it was announced in Variety last week. I think it’s safe to talk about it. He’s fascinating because not only is he an actor, he’s a brilliant, trained ballet dancer. He’s danced all these incredible shows and he’s also rather easy on the eye, so that’s also rather nice.

David Read:
It certainly doesn’t hurt.

Suanne Braun:
It doesn’t hurt. I’m also gonna be chatting to the fabulous Nick Sagar, who was in the fantastic series Queen of the South.

David Read:
Great.

Suanne Braun:
Also, a Princess Switch alumni. He plays one of the leads in that. He’s currently got a show in America which we’ll be talking about, which he’s, I think, filmed the pilot for. Super talented guy. Also, in addition to his acting, an astonishing martial artist. Astonishing. If you go onto his Instagram page, you’ll see some of his fight stuff. He’s just insane, so talented. One of the questions I get asked a lot as an actor is, “How do you get into voice work?” I do a lot of voice work, and I mostly work as an American, which sort of freaks people out, but that’s the truth.

David Read:
Hey, the accent’s the accent. If you can pull it off, make it work.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. You gotta do what you gotta do. But the one thing I’ve not done really is video games. I’ve done a little bit of small roles on games, but it’s such a massive thing now. Gaming is huge.

David Read:
It’s the next big thing and it’s already claimed that space. The billions of dollars that go into some of these things.

Suanne Braun:
Absolutely.

David Read:
Or come out of them, rather. It’s crazy.

Suanne Braun:
I have two mates. Funny enough, we’re so weird there, I met them independently. Jane is Canadian. Jane Perry is her name, and David is a Norwegian/British actor, David Menkin. Weirdly, they know each other from voice jobs. She is most famous, voice-wise, for playing Diana Burnwood in Hitman, she’s also in Cyberpunk. David is the voice of Virgil and of Gordon Tracy in Thunderbirds.

David Read:
I see, yes.

Suanne Braun:
He’s done tons of stuff. Both of them have done a load of work, plus they have really interesting television and theater careers. Anyone who’s interested in gaming or voiceovers, how games are done, how you get into that, I just think that’s gonna be a really cool and interesting episode. We’re sort of quite niche-y, but having these two people who are complete experts, I think, will be a wonderful thing to have.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Suanne Braun:
For what I thought was the final and eighth episode but is in fact the ninth because I can’t count. I now feel my OCD is kicking in. I’m like, “I think I feel like there has to be 10.”

David Read:
Keep your options open.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. There’s a teeny chance that we might have a bumper edition final show. I’m working on something, but I don’t want to talk about that yet. We have a final guest. I’m delighted and thrilled to have her because I spent ages trying to get her on the show. It’s returning in a wonderful full circle back to Stargate: the magnificent Torri Higginson.

David Read:
Good.

Suanne Braun:
I am delighted to have her on the show.

David Read:
Very good.

Suanne Braun:
That’s us for Season Two.

David Read:
Terrific. That’s great. Torri and I go way back to when she was shooting Atlantis. She’s a powerhouse. Not afraid to tell you her opinion and very of this world person. She’s salt of the earth. Huge dog lover, which I love.

Suanne Braun:
Excellent. Yes.

David Read:
Ask her about Ziggy. Ziggy is this beautiful, beautiful rescue that she has. She will be terrific, for sure. Been trying to get her on Dial the Gate, but just scheduling and everything else.

Suanne Braun:
I know.

David Read:
She was one of my first to say yes but we haven’t managed to make it work yet. That’s great.

Suanne Braun:
It’s really difficult, isn’t it? ‘Cause she’s working at the moment.

David Read:
These people are working.

Suanne Braun:
It’s great.

David Read:
Can’t fault them. Gotta make it work with what you got.

Suanne Braun:
Absolutely.

David Read:
All right. That’s a great lineup. Good deal. So, the plan is to release one a week for the next seven weeks or so?

Suanne Braun:
Yeah, I think so. Unless something happens where we might have to do two in a week. Hopefully it’s only one a week because it takes me about a full week to do all the work. I tend to do the show on a Wednesday, and I’ll take Thursday off ’cause otherwise I don’t have any days off. Thursday is the day where I’ll meet friends or I actually won’t do any work and then I start researching again on Friday and I work right through Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. We do a tech-check rehearsal on Tuesday evening with myself, Drew, and Catherine. The guest joins us a little bit early in case there’s problems with sound and mic because that was a signature of the first season.

David Read:
You gotta go through the growing pain stage. All of us have got to figure it out.

Suanne Braun:
I know. As I said to you, before we started, before we went live, working on Instagram and I love Instagram. I think they’re great and I think Instagram Lives are brilliant, but to do what we do is really difficult. A, you can’t do longer than an hour and it always went over. For me, the biggest problem was that when you’re in the Live and the other person, your guest, is trying to get on but maybe struggling, you don’t know unless they call you, but you’re on your phone.
It’s ridiculous. It’s really difficult. Poor old Gary Jones. Bless him. He was like, “I don’t know what’s happening. I’m in this. Are you here?” He was in my direct messages. I was like, “No, no, no, no.” He’d never used Instagram before, and it was so stressful. Then of course, you can’t relay that to people watching. You can’t be like, “Oh my God, I’m panicking.”

David Read:
It’s a seat-of-your-pants thing. You have to make it work. If it wasn’t for COVID, I could not do this because the actors were all forced to learn how to use Zoom. This is the thing that makes it work. They were all forced into a situation where they had to figure out, “OK, this is the future. If I wanna continue to work, if I wanna continue to be a part of auditions, for the time being, this is where we’re at.” So, harnessing that situation. They all have accounts, generally speaking, for the most part and then they press it and go. That was really a lifesaver.

Suanne Braun:
What’s really funny and what’s interesting though is I remember a year ago people didn’t really know Zoom. Some had used it before, and I was lucky that I have a friend who lives in the States and so she’d used it a lot. She and I had used it but wasn’t brilliant with it. Now, a year down the line, everyone knows how to use it. Everyone knows how to log on. It’s a different conversation. We all had a year to get used to it.

David Read:
Have you used Skype at all?

Suanne Braun:
Funny enough, only recently. It was, again, a bit of a challenge. I was a guest on a show, and they don’t use Zoom and they don’t use StreamYard and they don’t use YouTube, they use Skype. I went through the whole process and the rigmarole of downloading it and I had to cancel my old account which I didn’t even know was active. All that, resign and restart and then you’ve got to pick a username. Finally, get through all that and then he calls me the day before and he’s like, “So, my producer is completely smitten with StreamYard. Thanks for the tip-off, for telling us about Stream Yard. It’s amazing. So, we’re gonna be using that.” I was like “Great.”

David Read:
On one hand, “great.” On another hand, “you’ve got to be kidding.”

Suanne Braun:
I just deleted it.

David Read:
Oh, God. There are issues that I have with Skype that go back to the first year that Skype was online and they have not fixed. It drives me nuts. Every once in a while, everyone’s like, “Do you use Skype?” I’m like, “No, we are not going down that road.” There are problems that are endemic to Skype that I will not deal with.

Suanne Braun:
They need to learn. You’ve got to get with the program.

David Read:
I wanted to ask about…your little action figure we have seen, but your pop figure we have not.

Suanne Braun:
Here she is.

David Read:
Hello, Ms. Hathor.

Suanne Braun:
Hello. We should actually do, “Kneel before your goddess.” See?

David Read:
That is so beautiful.

Suanne Braun:
Isn’t she stunning?

David Read:
Hand-painted. The fan community is brilliant.

Suanne Braun:
This is also a Level 28 Toys. Do you know him?

David Read:
Is it an official toy?

Suanne Braun:
Yeah.

David Read:
A fan-made one?

Suanne Braun:
Is he official? I don’t know. He seemed to me.

David Read:
Is he licensed? Level 28 Toys.

Suanne Braun:
I think so, yes. His real name is Daniel Jackson. How bizarre is that?

David Read:
Ah, that’s right.

Suanne Braun:
I think he’s licensed. Maybe not. Maybe it’s not an official one.

David Read:
At the very least, it’s a beautiful piece.

Suanne Braun:
I love it.

David Read:
The creativity of fans is just outrageous.

Suanne Braun:
Unbelievable.

David Read:
Big J Customs is producing a series of fan-made SG-1 figures right now.

Suanne Braun:
You can’t see them. I see them in the distance there. You can’t really see them that clearly, though.

David Read:
They’re absolutely magnificent and if you go back on my show, to those listening, I’ve got a review of the custom Pop Figures where I took ’em out of the box and showed ’em off.

Suanne Braun:
Who do you have there?

David Read:
I’ve got Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal’c in green BDUs and then Teal’c as a Jaffa.

Suanne Braun:
Brilliant.

David Read:
The Jaffa one is extremely cool ’cause it is accurate down to the most teeny tiny detail.

Suanne Braun:
Amazing.

David Read:
The fan community, man, they keep on pumping out all this really cool stuff.

Suanne Braun:
They’re so talented.

David Read:
It’s crazy.

Suanne Braun:
I’m just slack-jawed at how brilliant everyone is. I didn’t expect this. This is something that came out of the community and the fandom, but there’s a wonderfully talented girl called Dana who’s made the most beautiful posters for Hathor Hosts for every show. Another girl called Jack Ivor Fan Art, her work is amazing. She always does posters. I’ve had Nat Lebrun make masks and T-shirts and Donna with her collages. Forgive me if I’m leaving anyone out. At the end of every show they just send me these amazing things.

David Read:
Who does your posters?

Suanne Braun:
A wonderful woman called Dana, that’s all I know. I think she’s from Czech and I think that is her profession. She’s incredible. Then there’s another wonderful artist whose name I’ve forgotten, but who also has sent me the most beautiful artwork. Thank you so much. They’re all so talented, and music, and Corrine for the opening titles. Amazing, amazing.

David Read:
It takes a village to make this happen. We cannot do it ourselves.

Suanne Braun:
Amen.

David Read:
With my moderating team, I was under the impression when I first started this, ’cause I watched some news podcasts on YouTube and everything else and the guy, he does his spiel and then he goes and opens up the live stream and goes through. The nice thing about a lot of those, how they do it is with the Super Chats. You and I are not gonna take money from people so how do you find this stuff? Well, the mods, thank God for all of our moderators, to go through and read everything and pull it all out.

Suanne Braun:
That was something for me. I’ve been asked a lot by other people, they’re like, “What are you charging for this? How do we access the site?” Certainly, when we started a year ago and even now, I was not comfortable taking money at all.” There are people who’ve lost everything. I am grateful that I have enough work in my life that I don’t need to be compensated for this. This is a joy to do. I will, however, say one thing. When the Stargate show comes back, y’all better make yourselves heard that you want me back, please. No, I’m just kidding.

David Read:
Absolutely. Well, here’s the thing, you are positioned as a fan favorite. I am hoping that when Brad does come along with SG4, that you and I will be, in terms of media and entertainment journalists and interviewers, as it were, at the ground floor.

Suanne Braun:
I hope so.

David Read:
When those shows and stories do start happening, that we’ll be able to turn to those people and say, “Hey, come on our show. Tell us about you before we discover your character.” I was lucky enough to do that with the likes of Brian J. Smith for Stargate Universe and a couple, three others. There are going to be spaces for us for sure when SG4 finally comes about whenever that’s going to be.

Suanne Braun:
I would really love to be in it too. I don’t have to play the same role. I would just be like… “I’ll be a tree who talks. I don’t care. I’m ‘Chevron locked’.”

David Read:
Be the next gate technician.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. I wanna be a part of it.

David Read:
I know.

Suanne Braun:
I don’t have to play Hathor.

David Read:
Such a deep and rich franchise. You can do anything with it. Certainly, it has been proven that there are certain guest stars like Garwin Sanford and a few others that have come back again and again and have made a meal out of that show, even without changing their face. Jewel Staite, for one, she definitely did with the Wraith and then as herself as her own face, Dr. Keller. There’s all kinds of possibilities; who knows what’s gonna happen next?

Suanne Braun:
I could be Hathor’s mom.

David Read:
Really, in the sarcophagus for a really long time.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly.

David Read:
She looks great.

Suanne Braun:
Really old and ancient and preserved.

David Read:
Or you could be an Ancient.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly.

David Read:
There we go.

Suanne Braun:
By the time they get it on, I will be.

David Read:
Absolutely. Jeez. I have some fan questions. Do we wanna move to them?

Suanne Braun:
Cool. Sure.

David Read:
All right. Kicks 394, “If you could use the Goa’uld voice and glowy eyes without the symbiote being a problem, what would you use it for?”

Suanne Braun:
I would use it to stop COVID in its tracks and I would use my hand device to smite the virus forever.

David Read:
That’s right.

Suanne Braun:
From our world, from this world, from Earth.

David Read:
Jeremy, “Suanne, have you and David considered doing a joint interview with another Stargate cast or crew member?” We’ve talked about doing something. I’m open to something. I think we’re still trying to figure out what that space is going to be.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. We’ve talked about it loosely and we’d love to. I think it’s one of those things that if it arises, we’ll know when it’s the right thing. But one also doesn’t wanna shoehorn an interview in just because we both do the same thing. I’d love to, but it needs to be the right thing is how I sorta feel. And I think you do too.

David Read:
It needs to be the right thing, and it needs to be the right person. You do your thing and I do mine. I think that there is room, like, for this. We’ll see what happens. I think when the time is right, it’ll happen. Bernd Backhaus, “Which pastry is a must try when visiting your husband’s bakery?”

Suanne Braun:
My God, they’re all so good. Yes. For anyone who doesn’t know, my husband and I own an artisan bakery in London called Christopher’s. Christopher is my husband; Christopher’s is the shop. He changed careers mid-life. He had a mid-life crisis and instead of having an affair, he opened a bakery.

David Read:
Hey, there you go.

Suanne Braun:
Which I guess is better. We bake artisan bread. It’s been six or seven years now of huge intensive slog and a labor of love. I’m so proud of him because now we have a team of amazingly talented bakers. We’re now making chocolate; we make the most incredible artisan chocolate. I’m thinking if there’s any here. No, he ate it. He was testing a new piece earlier. I’m in our lounge and I thought he might have left some here.

David Read:
That’s funny.

Suanne Braun:
I see he left none.

David Read:
It must be happening soon.

Suanne Braun:
Yes.

David Read:
Be like, “That one works.” That’s funny.

Suanne Braun:
I would say the pastry to try, or the thing that we get so many compliments on: we make our croissant and pain au chocolat the proper French way. The pain au chocolat, we import the chocolate from Belgium so it’s really beautiful chocolate. We’ve just recently started making cinnamon buns, they’re too good. I can’t actually go into the shop.

David Read:
My weakness.

Suanne Braun:
I’m like this. When he comes home with them, I’m like, “Stay away from me. You evil man. Get away. Back off. No, Satan, no.”

David Read:
“Get thee behind me. I know what you’re doing. Jesus had days like this.”

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. I tell you, man, lockdown was not good for that.

David Read:
No, that’s true.

Suanne Braun:
‘Cause I was like, “Ah. I’m in sweatpants, I can do this,” and then I tried to put on a pair of jeans after about three months. I was like, “OK, this needs to stop. From now on, I’ve gotta wear elasticated…” Not elasticated trousers, trousers that do up.

David Read:
Absolutely. So, business has made it through COVID, so you guys are doing good?

Suanne Braun:
Yeah. We’ve actually had an amazing time. We’ve weirdly flourished. We’ve had to adapt loads.

David Read:
Of course.

Suanne Braun:
I really credit this to Chris because he was a step ahead of the government here every single turn. Before they made it mandatory for people to wear masks, he was saying, “Let’s get all our staff in masks, let’s wear gloves.” Before they made it mandatory for food businesses to have a covering or to separate people, we were doing that. He kind of, I think, saw it and went, “Let’s be on the safe side.” We’ve not been able to be open as a cafe, which is what we are. We’re a deli cafe; we have a bakery at the back, where the bread is baked and the pastries are made daily and we bake throughout the day. A lot of bakeries run out at about 10:00 AM or 11:00 AM because they get it delivered to the shop in the morning and then once it’s gone, it’s gone. We’re more the French way, where you bake and the last bake is around 2:30 PM or 3:00 PM, which in the old days. When people were commuting to work every day, you could get fresh baguettes on your way home at 5:00 PM, on your commute home. We’ve not been able to be a cafe for a year and a bit now. We lost, obviously, all those tables. What we decided to do was invest in stunning fresh produce. It’s now more like an upmarket supermarket/bakery. We have bread, pastries, cheese, wine, amazing deli products, meats, fresh fish, smoked fish–all kinds of sauces–and then fresh veggies and fruit. Check us out on Instagram, Christopher’s Bakery.

David Read:
Absolutely. When all the sanctions and everything else are lifted, I will join you at the shop for a dessert.

Suanne Braun:
That is a deal.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Suanne Braun:
That’s a deal. When you come to London.

David Read:
Planning on heading back to Ireland in the next year or two here, when everything returns to normal and I will definitely be passing by the UK.

Suanne Braun:
Fab.

David Read:
We will make that happen.

Suanne Braun:
Excellent.

David Read:
Teresa Mc, “How would you imagine Hathor’s human host being like if she wasn’t overtaken, or was even released by her symbiote?”

Suanne Braun:
Ooh, that’s such a good question.

David Read:
I think she’d have a lot to say.

Suanne Braun:
Be like, “That’s why I’ve been in a bad mood for the last 400 years.”

David Read:
Exactly. Thousand. 4,000.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly, 4,000.

David Read:
It’s so important to remember that behind each Goa’uld face is a human being screaming inside. It’s always in the back of my mind when I watch a Goa’uld character.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. I think also, the thing that’s important for me is that Hathor in Egyptian mythology is actually sort of a very benevolent goddess. She is fertility and love, but she’s not really sex, drugs, and rock and roll, like she is in Stargate. She’s much more love and children and nurturing. Earthly form as a cow, which I’ve never quite gotten over, but never mind.

David Read:
She is nourishment.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. I love the duality of that and I think it’s always interesting because I think in life as human beings, and certainly as an actor, those are the interesting things to play; the duality of the character. Obviously, with the symbiote, there’s all this rage and anger. Every evil person thinks that they’re doing the right thing. I don’t think she thinks she’s evil. She’s just doing whatever she has to do to get it done with the means at her disposal, which in her case at that time is seduction.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Suanne Braun:
There’s something also quite dual about nurture and seductress, the Madonna/whore complex. On one hand, she lures people in because she’s, “Come, trust, you can trust me. It’s OK. I’ll talk to you.”

David Read:
Then “I’ve got you. Just let me breathe on you.”

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. I think when she comes back, ’cause I’m just thinking positively here, when she comes back, she has to have a new trick, a few new tricks up her sleeve.

David Read:
Absolutely. Something to do with being on ice instead of just being in a sarcophagus. She’ll have some freeze power or something, I don’t know.

Suanne Braun:
Yes, something cool. Ooh, I like that.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Suanne Braun:
I think I’d like to see the more kind, benevolent, caring side of her.

David Read:
All right. That’s cool. There are definitely Goa’uld who would have been willing to take that step. Baal wasn’t a nice guy particularly, but he did have a fascination and almost a love for humanity. It’s so complicated. Cliff played it so well.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. Every villain is complicated, every human being is complicated, every character. I was watching something the other day, and it was so awful because all the actors, I said to my husband, “I feel like the actors were given the direction, ‘Just play everything as if you’re angry,'” because everybody was talking like this. No matter what they were saying, they were just, everybody was furious all the time. Then the breathing, there was a lot of this kind of breathing going on like that and somehow that seems to be, that’s now how you play earnest, is that you’ve gotta do lots of breathing and be really angry. I was like, “That’s so dull to watch,” ’cause everybody’s on the same level. When suddenly somebody comes in and is really still, which I loved that Cliff did, instead of playing power like this, he sat back and was like, “No, I’m just gonna be like, you come to me.”

David Read:
That’s right.

Suanne Braun:
Those are the things that are interesting rather than just going pantomime villain.

David Read:
Just flat and uninteresting for sure. Very cool. Eliška Suchá, “What are some of the best fan gifts you have received?” Despite your two ladies behind you here.

Suanne Braun:
Yes. Wow. My goodness. I have received amazing T-shirts. I should have brought it down. I’ve got a wonderful mask that says, “Kneel before your goddess.” Posters, drawings. My whole landing upstairs is full of amazing drawings of me as Hathor or just me. Beautiful bottles of wine.

David Read:
Wow. All right.

Suanne Braun:
Yes, gorgeous wine, Scotch, chocolates, teddy bears, key rings. Amazing. I can’t possibly choose my favorites ’cause there’s been so many beautiful things and hand-drawn beautiful frames made. They’ll draw the painting or the drawing and then the frame is really beautiful and everything handmade and beautifully packaged and sent here. I’m really grateful. There’s another amazing artist called Delphine, she’s a French girl and she’s done lots of drawings for me and has done the most beautiful work and stunning work on Hathor headdress. Here is a card from her. That’s a drawing that she did. Super talented as well. Isn’t that amazing?

David Read:
Holy cow. That is amazing. That’s crazy.

Suanne Braun:
Check out her work, she’s so talented. There’s so many. She doesn’t wanna sit down now, Hang on. Let me get her here. There’s so many people. I feel incredibly, incredibly blessed and lucky. Thank you all.

David Read:
I remember being at a Star Trek convention once. I was running a booth, and a fan had come up to me and he said, “I gave a huge bouquet of red roses to one of the actresses, one of the Voyager actresses.” She reacted in a way that for him, he was surprised. She wasn’t, “Oh, thank you so much, I love it.” He was puzzled at her response. I said to him, “Red roses are a very personal gesture.” I can understand where he’s coming from with that. Not every actor receives gifts the same way or takes the same messages the same way and if you’re lucky, you’ll get one that’ll be at least understanding of where you’re coming from with it and be like, “Thank you very much for caring about me enough to go and do this,” but not everyone is.

Suanne Braun:
No, exactly. That’s true as well.

David Read:
Jett Ison wants to know, “Who was more demanding, Hathor or Dotty? What role?”

Suanne Braun:
To play or as characters?

David Read:
Yes, the role, not as people.

Suanne Braun:
I think they were both demanding, equally demanding, but for completely different reasons. Hathor was probably more demanding in the sense that it was my first time in Vancouver and first time working with those people. I knew the track record, and it had Rick attached and obviously I knew Rick from MacGyver. I was really aware of being like, “Ooh, I’m walking into this world,” and everyone was quite tight-lipped and knew each other really well and I was this outsider coming in.

David Read:
It was first season, so everything was still being figured out.

Suanne Braun:
Then to get the call at the end of the first season going, “Listen, your character’s tested through the roof. People love her so we’re bringing you back.” At one stage, there was very loose discussion that it might be a five, six, seven-episode arc and then I don’t know what happened. To this day, I don’t quite know. I was completely bereft that somebody, I think at some convention, maybe thinking that they were helping me, but sort of came up and went, “Do you know Brad Wright thinks your episode absolutely sucks? He hates it, it’s his least favorite episode.” I was like, “I did not know that. Thank you. That explains a lot.”

David Read:
There’s the Band-Aid for you.

Suanne Braun:
That’s fair enough.

David Read:
I don’t think that it had anything to do with you. In fact, I’m pretty positive that it didn’t.

Suanne Braun:
I hope not.

David Read:
Brad and Jonathan had an interesting relationship. Jonathan left to pursue other things at the end of Season Three. Brad was able, with Rob, to continue to take the show in the direction that he wanted to. There’s a reference in… I’m adding fuel to the fire here, I suppose.

Suanne Braun:
No, I know now. it’s all right.

David Read:
It’s for proper context. In the two-part “Heroes,” Teryl, as Fraiser, is going through folders and saying, “That’s the whole Hathor incident that we’ve been told never to talk about again.” As you’re figuring out a show at the beginning… you’re trying certain things and not trying other things. Like her turning Jack into a Jaffa wouldn’t fit with the later seasons of the mythology in terms of how it was understood, you know? But still, I think the fact of the matter is that the fan base has corralled around you and enveloped you and continued to say, “Your part was important. Your part did matter.” It was key to the foundation of stuff that came later in terms of they’re trying to figure stuff out in the beginning, and they had your back again. They wouldn’t have done that, believe me, if they were not a fan of you.

Suanne Braun:
No, that’s very true. I sort of think I completely agree with that. As Rainbow was saying last week, when you get the news that you’re not coming back, and I was certainly not in a position like him, but it’s a blow personally.

David Read:
Correct.

Suanne Braun:
But equally, you have to respect that they have a vision for what they want to make.

David Read:
Correct.

Suanne Braun:
It’s a show and it’s their show and they have an idea and they’ve gotta do what they think is right for the show and I totally do respect that. As I said, if there was ever an opportunity to return as the character, I think SG-1 would be a brilliant way to bring her back. Same character, but with a new guise, maybe. I think, as a villain, she had some really interesting potential, more than just the seduction. I think that’s quite one-sided. I think there’s so much more that could have happened and that would be an amazing thing to try and explore.

David Read:
Absolutely. I think that it would be a valid one, for sure. There is nothing beyond the realm of possibility. That’s the wonderful thing about Stargate and about sci-fi, is they can make anything work. One of the great things about Brad is, and he proved this with Stargate SG-1 Final Cut: Children of the Gods, is that there is enough there that you can even reshape some of the earlier stuff to be more internally consistent as a special piece of content for fans. The Final Cut was something that was just created for the fans because it was a passion project for him. This was something that he had wanted to really make improvements on. There was just things that he wasn’t satisfied with at the beginning. So, you know what? Anything is a possibility.

Suanne Braun:
Absolutely. I realized I haven’t answered the question about Dotty. Dotty was a challenge because the script was so weird. She’s half human, half android. She’s an android but they get affected, they go through this weird wormhole and then she becomes more and more in touch with her human side. What was great about her was being able to unleash my comedy ’cause they just went, “Just do what you want to.” There’s loads of stuff that didn’t make it into the final cut. They sort of let me run wild and that was fantastic. It was a challenge finding, I guess, the right balance. I think Starhyke is a show that really divides people. People either love it or they hate it. It’s complete Marmite. You’re either in it or you hate it. But I think that’s kind of cool.

David Read:
Why do you think that is, that there’s such a dichotomy to it?

Suanne Braun:
I think because it’s very specific British humor. Do you know who Benny Hill is?

David Read:
I know the name.

Suanne Braun:
OK. So, Benny Hill was kind of in the ’60s. It was very, tits and ass comedies. There’s no other way to say it. Lots of dolly birds running around being like, “Ooh, ooh, yeah, ooh,” showing you, and lots of double play on words. In Starhyke the captain’s called Belinda Blowhard.

David Read:
My God. OK. Understood.

Suanne Braun:
Sally Popyatopov. There were all these and basically it was like a Carry On film in space, but then every now and then there were some really funny, clever bits. I think that that kind of humor, not everybody gets it. A lot of people looked at it and just went, “What the hell is this thing?” It was made by guys who are huge fans of sci-fi in general. The special effects looked amazing ’cause it was shot on a shoestring budget and that’s also what they do. It’s developed its own little cult niche following. If you ever have some spare moments, check out the outtakes on YouTube for me and Claudia Christian, just killing ourselves laughing. She plays Belinda Blowhard.

David Read:
My god. All right. I will definitely check it out. What the English have done with English, is just it’s one of those things. You can make anything happen, more than a lot of other languages. The subtext is there. “He had an enormous Norman.”

Suanne Braun:
Exactly.

David Read:
I mean, we all know what you’re saying.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly.

David Read:
But what’s a Norman? It doesn’t matter. His Norman was enormous.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly.

David Read:
I think that’s so brilliant about English.

Suanne Braun:
And there are words that are funny, like doorknob. People say, “Doorknob. Get the doorknob.” It’s a funny word. I don’t know why, but it gets laughs.

David Read:
It is. Gosh. Claire Cowan, “Apart from flying home to South Africa, where would you go once flying is normal again?”

Suanne Braun:
I wanna go somewhere hot and tropical. Thailand or Mauritius. South Africa is hot, but when I go home it’s never full holiday. Especially now my parents are getting on a bit and it’s been awful. It’s the longest I’ve been away from South Africa. I haven’t been back in a year and a half now. The last time I was there was October, November 2019. My mum was really, really, really ill, which is why I went. I had to cut my trip short because they changed our dates on The Princess Switch 2. I literally flew from Cape Town, landed in London, got here, unpacked my summer clothes, put in my winter clothes, was driven to the airport and flew to Scotland and started filming the next day. It was nuts. Thankfully, she’s recovered completely.

David Read:
Good.

Suanne Braun:
We’ve not had time as a family to enjoy each other because that trip was so intense and so fraught and my dad is quite frail physically now. I was major daughter duty, battening down the hatches and taking care of stuff. I really am looking forward to being able to go home and spend some time with them and see them and be with them. But the thought of a beach somewhere! We keep watching anything with somewhere warm and then Chris and I will be like, “Oh, I wanna lie on a beach and sip a cocktail with an umbrella in it.”

David Read:
Geez. I hear you. TuneTamasha, “What kind of fragrance would Hathor use or sell? Slogans like “godlike scents,” “symbiotic attraction” and “fertility overdrive” come to mind.” “Bow to the scents?”

Suanne Braun:
I like symbiotic. I love that. Maybe that’s the next step, a fragrance and it’ll be pink. No, I don’t want it to be pink. No, I actually don’t like pink.

David Read:
“Seduction” by Hathor. Really?

Suanne Braun:
Yes. Then on the back in very small writing, “If you use too much of this, there is danger that you might turn into a symbiote.”

David Read:
“Parasitic takeover is possible.” That’s too funny.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. That is brilliant.

David Read:
Thank you, TuneTamasha, that’s great. Goran Andonovski, “Is it possible that you may have any of the main cast from the 1994 Stargate movie be a guest on either show?” I’ve had Dean on mine.

Suanne Braun:
Have you? Wow.

David Read:
Yeah. That was a big deal, but he’s crew.

Suanne Braun:
I have never even considered that honestly. I obviously saw the film and I enjoyed the film but the film has always, for me, felt like such a standalone thing in a weird way. The Stargate television series franchise is very much something that I’ve been a part of and I guess that’s where I also know the actors. I have no connection at all to anyone in the film.

David Read:
Have you met Alexis?

Suanne Braun:
I think I met him once. I know he and Peter are mates. I could have Alexis on.

David Read:
Yes. He’s wonderful.

Suanne Braun:
He’s a really sort of old soul, isn’t he?

David Read:
Correct. He’s a very deep thinker.

Suanne Braun:
Deep thinker.

David Read:
You ask him a question, he’ll take 10 or 15 minutes explaining it. An interesting response the entire time for sure.

Suanne Braun:
No, I haven’t actually considered that. But maybe if there’s a Season Three, who knows?

David Read:
Great.

Suanne Braun:
Who knows?

David Read:
There we go. Shantel Leo, “If you could have played any other character in Stargate, which one would you have chosen?”

Suanne Braun:
Sam Carter.

David Read:
Sam?

Suanne Braun:
She was perfection. Either that or Jack. Who would have thought? Imagine a woman playing that role. I would love to have seen that.

David Read:
Absolutely, for sure. In Atlantis, there was a four-team-member all-female team and it was fantastic to watch. It was great.

Suanne Braun:
That’s right. Something like that would have been quite interesting, I think.

David Read:
Rachel Baker, “Your most challenging day to film on SG-1.”

Suanne Braun:
Again, challenging more because of circumstance was the day that we were doing. I can’t remember where it was in the sequence of filming, it’s the opening bit where my hand comes out the sarcophagus. I sit up. I think I’ve talked quite a lot at conventions and on my show about the unbelievably uncomfortable outfit, which was so tight. Initially they’d made it so that the whole piece underneath and the little skirt with the flaps, that that was to wear underneath that really tight skirt. Then, thank God, somebody in costume went, “Hang on, hang on, hang on. We never see her take this off. We don’t need to wear the double layer.” It was making everything impossible to breathe so they removed that and that made it a little more comfortable. It was very heavily boned down the side, like a corset is boned, you’ve got these rigid bones literally going down the front and the side and the back and they tend to go down to sort of below your belly button. I couldn’t sit in it ’cause when you sit, it rises up like that and you can’t really get comfortable. Going to the loo was an absolute challenge. Any kind of movement like this, bending or turning sideways, is really difficult. Which is why in period films you can always see women in corsets, they’re very straight. It absolutely changes how you sit, how you breathe. You can barely breathe through there. You’ve gotta control your breaths.

David Read:
If you wanna breathe at all. Exactly.

Suanne Braun:
They wanted me to come from lying down and sit up in one go. I was like, “Are you kidding? That was challenging and we had to do it over and over and over. It was really technical. Funny enough, the one people think was really challenging was the getting out of the bathtub or into the bathtub because obviously technology has really come a long way now. It would be interesting to see how they did that now but we filmed it in reverse. Obviously, I was dry, going into the water wet and then they just reversed the film. I remember them saying really clearly, he’s like, “You can’t blink. You have to keep your eyes open the whole time ’cause if you blink and we play it back, you’ll be blinking backwards.”

David Read:
Because your eyes are slower going up than they are going down.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly. So, rather than doing that, they’re going this way. I was like, “OK.” Going down in the water and then the water started stinging my eyes, but I was like, “Can I close them now? Can I close them now? I can’t close them now, so I’ll just keep going.” Weirdly we did that in one take.

David Read:
Oh, it was one take?

Suanne Braun:
Everyone was like, “Yeah, nailed it.” I was like, “Oh, OK.” So, the dress and coming out of that damn bloody sarcophagus was really challenging. It’s quite difficult to be seductive. It’s difficult for me to be seductive at the best of times, but it’s difficult for her. I found it really difficult to not be able to move ’cause sensuality is about movement and I was like a mummy in this outfit. But that’s my job; to make it look like it was effortless and easy.

David Read:
With Rainbow, one of the stories that really hit home for me, and I’d like you to share it again if you’d be willing, was an experience where you had a costume fitting and you were being mistreated.

Suanne Braun:
Yeah.

David Read:
You decided to stand up for yourself.

Suanne Braun:
I forgot I told that. We were talking about how you deal with rejection and building yourself up and he was saying that it took a long time for him to find the power, I guess, to say, “No, I’m not gonna be spoken to like that or treated like that.” I said, “Me too and in fact, it’s only just recently happened.” He said, “Oh, what happened?” I said, “About four or five years ago I was in a costume fitting…” for a show that will remain nameless. The costume person is a very well-known, really respected costume lady, huge amount of credits, Academy Award-winning. I was really excited and I got there and there’s a place in London that’s essentially a massive warehouse. Each room, the front part of the room, is a curtain, a big thick velvet drape and then there’s a door to the back and the door goes out into this vast warehouse. When you’re in your fitting, no one else can see you but the costumer can run in and out to go and get stuff from the warehouse if they need to. The rooms are next to each other and not particularly well labeled on the outside. I go in for the fitting and an actor’s fittings are nightmarish anyway because you have to get naked in front of someone you’ve never met. You’re still having your pants on and sometimes, if it’s a period piece, which this was, I had to have proper period underwear, so they were looking at stuff like that. Basically, she just started telling me what was wrong with me. She said, first thing she said was, “You’re very glamorous. Very, very glamorous. That’s not right for this role.” I was a bit like, “Uh, what?” She went, “You’ve got far too much makeup on.” I was like, “Well, I obviously won’t be wearing the makeup for the shoot. It’s my day off, this is how I dress. This is me.” She’s like, “Well, put your hair in a ponytail. I need to see what it looks like in a ponytail. Take your clothes off. For heaven’s sake, just take your clothes off. How am I supposed to dress you? I can’t see anything.” I did and she was like, “Well, that’s not gonna work.” She then went and got two outfits and while she was getting the outfits, because I was sort of standing there and it was quite cold, I remember picking up a shirt and she’s like, “Take it off. For heaven’s sake, don’t put your top on. I need to look at you. Although it’s not very pleasant looking at you, I have to be honest. You’re so capacious. Everything is so large and I don’t know, how are we gonna make this work?” I just was going, “um?” Then she went, “You’re very tall. How tall are you?” I said, “I’m five foot nine and a half, but I can be five eight if you like.” She went, “And your feet, you’ve got very small feet.” Nothing was right. I could feel the tears coming. Then she went, “Well, wait here. I’ve got to go and get two outfits.” Then shouting at her assistant, she was like, “Get the thing and get the enormous one and then get the one in the size that she’s given us,” as if I’d lied about my sizes. She came back, and I kid you not, with what looked like a tent. She went, “Well, there’s also this. Frankly, I think you’re going to have to wear this because I doubt this will fit you.” She shuffled off again to go get me the ugliest pair of shoes and the assistant must have taken a look at my face and just went, “I’m so sorry. She’s really stressed.” I went, “Yeah, I can tell.”

David Read:
That’s clear.

Suanne Braun:
She walked out.

David Read:
She’s making calls that are like a casting director’s call. She’s the costumer.

Suanne Braun:
Exactly, constantly going on and she just kept saying, “You’re so glamorous. Take your jewelry off and then take your lipstick off.” She was obsessed with my face. Then while I was waiting in my now pants and sort of weird petticoat and a sort of strange ’60s bra some guy walks in. I was like, “Oh, hi.” He’s like, “Oh, oh man, my bad, wrong room.” I was just like, “Are you fucking kidding me?” In that moment, I was like, “Hang on. You have two choices here. You can either fall apart and burst into tears,” which is what I was feeling I wanted to do and run away and hide. “Or you can stand up to this gremlin of a woman.” She was tiny, five foot at most. “You can absolutely use your power and your experience and speak your truth.” When she came back in, I went and I stood as close to her, and I literally loomed over her, and she was like, “Oh, right.” I said, “Look, this is a fitting. I’m here for an hour and a half. Anything that doesn’t fit, you’ll have to adjust it. Why don’t we try the dress before you decide whether it’s gonna fit or not and let’s see if it fits. If it doesn’t fit, you fix it. That’s your job.” She was like, “Right, right, right.” Thank God it fitted perfectly. The belt was a bit tight, but I remember I came home and I said to Chris, “I’m not eating for two weeks because that belt is gonna fit.” Because it fitted, I was like, “Oh, I can barely breathe, but I’m not gonna tell her.” By the time we shot, it looked great. Everything worked and I wore the dress that they picked originally, no tent, none of the other stuff. I’ve subsequently found out funny enough, because somebody saw my interview, that there was another actress on that job who was very young. It was her first job, so 19 or 20. First job.

David Read:
She won’t know better.

Suanne Braun:
Won’t have a clue. Went for the fitting, all went well, really excited and had a major role in this. On the first day of filming, this same woman was like, “Oh my God, you put on weight on the holidays. Oh, well, your costume’s not gonna fit. You’re fat now. What am I gonna do with you? You’re fat.” This poor girl went into makeup, was like, “What’s wrong with me?” Size teeny tiny. It’s outrageous. And a woman. That’s the worst part…a sister. I was like, “Come on.” That was quite a horrific story.

David Read:
Some people, all of us, except for cops and a few other professions, can have a bad day. It’s your choice as to whether or not you are going to dump on another person at the same time. You can say, “Let you know up front, I’m having a bad one. I’m gonna do what I can. Please work with me.” Man, holy crap Suanne. Good for you for standing up for yourself.

Suanne Braun:
No, she was outrageous.

David Read:
It wasn’t that you were being a bully back. You were putting a stop to it to prevent more from happening.

Suanne Braun:
I got on the train and cried all the way home. By the time I got home I was in such a state. My brilliant husband was like, “You should throw a tantrum. You should phone your agent, and you should throw a tantrum and you should threaten not to turn up because this is outrageous. Particularly as she is who she is.”

David Read:
If this was an award-winning costume…

Suanne Braun:
Then you think how many other young women and older women…

David Read:
Correct.

Suanne Braun:
Then she had a go at the lead actress, who’s a massive star. She had a go at her about her wig and I was like, “Well, who are you?” I realized on that day when she had a go about the wig, which isn’t even her department, I thought, “There’s something not right here. This woman is basically a poisonous little…”

David Read:
She’s abusive.

Suanne Braun:
It’s not actually about me; this is her stuff. But in that moment, and my God, talk about being vulnerable, as I said, you’re in your panties and nothing else. Some guy walks in, I was like, “Oh, what is happening?” It was awful. Awful.

David Read:
Good for you for rising up above that.

Suanne Braun:
Thank you. Thank you.

David Read:
Absolutely. Thank you for sharing that story.

Suanne Braun:
It’s a pleasure.

David Read:
All of us in our industry have dealt, not certainly in that type of situation, but dealt with people like that. Sometimes, not to get mean back, but sometimes you have to stand up for yourself. If you have the power to stand up for others, that’s something that each of us has to consult ourselves deep down and think about too.

Suanne Braun:
When I first moved to LA, I’ve never told this story publicly. I’m not sure I should. When I first moved to LA, I auditioned for a pilot that was called E-Z Streets, E dash Z Streets, and directed by, oh God, who’s the guy who wrote and directed Crash? Paul, ah, his name escapes me. Anyway, you’re looking it up. Fantastic, very well-known, Oscar-winning.

David Read:
Paul Haggis?

Suanne Braun:
Haggis. Paul Haggis.

David Read:
Paul Haggis? Yeah.

Suanne Braun:
Yeah. He was wonderful. Pilot season, you audition, you get a callback, another callback, another callback, then you go in front of the producers, then you get another callback and you go to the network. Going to network is a big, big, big deal because there’s usually only three of you. They never do two, they always pick an uneven number. You’re basically shoved in front of the entire network, which is mostly men.

David Read:
You’re on display.

Suanne Braun:
You’re on display and you then have to act. You also have to sign your contract before you go in. You can be sitting with $20 in your bank account and look at a contract that gives you, if you get this job, from tomorrow, $25,000 an episode or whatever it may be. That’s a bit of an adjustment. Then you’re looking at the two other people who, at this point, are your competition. They keep you all together in the room. I don’t know if they still do that, but that’s what they did when I was there. I went in and I’d had to fight for this thing because initially they were like, “Well, they want her British.” Then they didn’t want her British and then she was American. Then they came back and then one of the producers was like, “But now I’ve heard her British, I don’t know if I’m convinced about her being American.” I had to go out and be American. Anyway, it was this endless process. Then they were like, “Her clothes aren’t sexy enough. She needs to dress more sexy.” I was like, “OK, so, lower the shirt, higher the skirt, tighter jackets.” My housemate at the time was tiny and I somehow squeezed myself into one of her jackets, which was really tight on me, but did the trick. Paul Haggis was absolutely amazing all the way through it and I know he really, really wanted me. Casting director was brilliant. On the final day, I went in and there were four scenes and it was a brilliant part, brilliant part. I went in and I read and they ask you to do a 360. You’re on a little platform, a little stage in the kind of bowels of CBS. I was about to go out and Paul Haggis looked at me and went “You were great and the casting director was like “that was perfect.” I was like, “Oh, yes.” I was about to go and he turned around and he said, “Does anybody have any questions for Suanne? Anything before we let her go?” Deathly silence. They’re awful ’cause they just look at you like this. There’s nothing from them. He’s like, “Great. Suanne, if you wanna just go and wait outside, we’re gonna see the other two and then we’ll let you know if you can stay or go.” I was like, “OK.” As I had my hand on the doorknob to leave, there’s that word again. This voice from the back and very physically similar to Harvey Weinstein, feet up on a chair smoking a cigar, went, “Yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s not so much a question but I don’t know, I don’t wanna fuck her. Do you wanna fuck her? Anybody here? Anybody wanna fuck her? I don’t know if I wanna fuck her.” What do you do with that? I just remember Paul Haggis going, “Well, I think, uh…” I was like, “Uh…” Needless to say, I did not get the job. But the show didn’t get picked up, it got canceled, so ha! That was a bit of an adjustment to come back from ’cause you’re “What?” Hathor felt like a nice vindication of that.

David Read:
I would imagine so. Jeez.

Suanne Braun:
She’s a sexy, desirable gal. Take that, Mr. Big Shot. I could tell you stories all day but I won’t ’cause I’ve kept you long enough. Pardon the language. I have to use language for the fact that he said that.

David Read:
No, you’re OK, for historical accuracy. It is a business that is cutthroat. The fact of the matter is beauty is so subjective. One of the things that I think is so wonderful about the age of television that we’re moving into is that, and movies, slowly but surely, show that it’s so much more personality than it is physicality and looks. Looks, unfortunately, are always gonna be a thing. There’s always gonna be men and women who are gonna go and say, “Mm, I want that.” “I will watch more of that because I wanna see more of them.” There’s just the facts. Also at the same time, you can have these plus-sized characters in a lot of these shows who are just fantastic to watch. They’ve gone out of their way to find someone who has personality as the biggest thing. You have to do everything you can to get the job, obviously, but at a certain point, you’re gonna have those people in the room who are, “Well, this is a toxic human being.”

Suanne Braun:
I think it’s very different now. That kind of behavior would never, ever, ever fly now.

David Read:
Isn’t that good a thing?

Suanne Braun:
Certainly not after the MeToo. Thank God. I agree. I think the other interesting thing is that we’re becoming much more… God, that story’s made me feel sweaty. It’s too much.

David Read:
It’s intense.

Suanne Braun:
I think acting is about people. We’re all different, different colors, different creeds, different shapes, different ages, different sizes. I don’t wanna watch a program where everybody looks the same and speaks the same.

David Read:
Correct.

Suanne Braun:
As I said to you, it’s so dull.

David Read:
And they all look like Barbie dolls. At least that’s not what I look for.

Suanne Braun:
All the men look the same, whatever that may be. I feel we finally are embracing diversity. Of course, yes, everybody wants to look beautiful on screen. Just because you look beautiful doesn’t always make the most interesting character.

David Read:
Correct.

Suanne Braun:
Which is a hard thing. The ego has to let go of that. The best work I’ve ever done is when I’ve had no makeup on, playing essentially a really gritty, down-market character. That’s when I’ve done the best work. Or playing someone who was disemboweled, with blood pouring off. That’s when the work has been the most rewarding and the most amazing.

David Read:
Is it because the veneer has been taken away that you’re not focusing on those things, that it’s brought out the best performance in your opinion? Or it’s just the subject matter that you were dealing with was what did it, or a combination of the two?

Suanne Braun:
I think a combination of the two. I think one of the nice things, also as an actress particularly, you go through sort of ingenue and then you’re a leading lady and then you get to the kind of age where I am now where they’re not quite sure what to do with me. By Hollywood standards, I’m too old to play a leading lady. If I was famous, I could play a leading lady, but I’m not famous in Hollywood. I’m not quite granny, thank goodness, not yet. So, they’re not quite sure where to slot you in. There just aren’t that many interesting roles, so you have to make the roles. I’ve discovered it’s really interesting when you show people what you can do in a way that isn’t going, “Oh, look, I’m a…” Suddenly people go, “Oh.” To give you an example of this, through doing Hathor Hosts, I started doing more posts on Instagram. I started doing my makeup differently. I started doing much more sort of quite glamorous selfies, for want of a better word and then combining that with funny, my personality, with things.

David Read:
Your show is the personality and the guest.

Suanne Braun:
I was called in for a job a week ago by somebody who’s never seen me, who said, “I’ve been kind of fascinated by your Instagram profile and then I read up about you on IMDb, and I’d like you to come in and read for this role.” It’s a great role. I may not get it.

David Read:
Still an opportunity.

Suanne Braun:
A year ago, I sure as hell wouldn’t have even been considered.

David Read:
Good for you.

Suanne Braun:
… a way of going, “Well, don’t write me off just yet.”

David Read:
That’s right.

Suanne Braun:
That’s been massively rewarding, actually.

David Read:
Fantastic. I am so glad to hear that. These things all lead back towards one another. You’re putting yourself out there and you’re doing a project sharing yourself and sharing aspects of other people that you care about, and the results may pay off in ways that you’ll never know. Certainly, for this show and I imagine for yours as well, I have gotten mail from people who have said, “You know what? I really needed this right now. Thank you.” I do this to amuse myself and to create some interesting content and connect to people that I’ve loved, who I haven’t either met before or haven’t heard from in years. I think you and I are very privileged to have people who give a crap about the work that we’re doing. That’s really cool Suanne. That’s a really cool story.

Suanne Braun:
No, I really agree. I think more than the work, just having people reach out and say, “I can’t tell you how your show impacted me,” or, “You got me through this,” or especially in the first lockdown, I think when nobody knew what to expect.

David Read:
No wonder.

Suanne Braun:
The world stopped. Now we’re a bit more used to it but during that time I received the most beautiful letters which I will always cherish. Sometimes if I am having a really bad day I’ll sort of go back. If you don’t get a job or you’re feeling a bit low, I’ll read some of the things sent to me over the years and I’m like, “Gosh, that’s really kind of lifted me.” I feel so supported in this amazing fandom, which I really do, I mean it. I feel it’s a privilege to be a part of it.

David Read:
Absolutely. I 100% agree. To be able to share time with you and to share time with these lovely people who have taken the time to tune in is always fantastic. Congratulations on Season Two.

Suanne Braun:
Thank you very much.

David Read:
This is going to keep on growin’ and growin’. We’ll grow together.

Suanne Braun:
Absolutely.

David Read:
Who knows what’s gonna happen next? We can all hope for SG4 and in the meantime you and I are gonna keep on trucking and sharing some interesting stories with people that we care about and want to learn a little bit more about.

Suanne Braun:
Absolutely and one day at a time.

David Read:
Absolutely. That’s all you can do. I really appreciate you taking the time to come back.

Suanne Braun:
It’s been an absolute pleasure and a treat and thank you for having me.

David Read:
Absolutely. You have a great night. I’ll email you shortly and we’ll stay in touch.

Suanne Braun:
Fab. I will do. Thanks so much for watching everyone. Bye.

David Read:
Bye. Have a good night.

Suanne Braun:
Bye. You too.

David Read:
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