GateWorld’s Darren Sumner returns to challenge David in a twenty-question countdown to determine who is the reigning champion of Stargate Trivia! At least for this month. Plus, we announce October’s artwork winner!

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Timecodes
0:00 – Opening Credits
0:28 – Introduction
1:20 – Guest Introduction
2:18 – October Trivia Winner
3:06 – November Art Reveal
6:08 – Atlantis Model Reveal
9:16 – Leftover Episode Q&A for David
11:40 – #TurtleTimeline
17:10 – Trivia Time
19:00 – Question 1
20:20 – Question 2
22:04 – Question 3
22:50 – Question 4
25:06 – Question 5
26:23 – Question 6
28:03 – Question 7
30:22 – Question 8
31:19 – Question 9
32:43 – Question 10
34:37 – Question 11
36:34 – Question 12
38:26 – Question 13
40:45 – Question 14
48:06 – Question 15
48:42 – Question 16
50:48 – Question 17
51:40 – Question 18
53:10 – Question 19
56:45 – Question 20
1:01:38 – Dial the Gate Viewership Analytics (So Far)
1:09:05 – Congrats to GateWorld on 50K Subscribers
1:11:44 – Thoughts on Previous DTG Interviews
1:14:09 – Questions from the Live Chat
1:15:30 – Upcoming Guests
1:21:33 – Questions from the Live Chat (Cont.’)
1:22:49 – Wrap-Up Guest
1:24:08 – Post Ep Housekeeping
1:25:50 – End Credits

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TRANSCRIPT
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David Read:
Welcome to Episode 16 everyone, my name is David Read of Dial the Gate. It’s the name of my show. I need to mention the name of my show, Dial the Gate. Thank you so much for joining. Did I say 16? Darren, did I say 16 or 17?

Darren Sumner:
I wasn’t listening.

David Read:
OK, that sounds about right. Episode 17 everyone. Darren Sumner is waiting in the wings and he is the founder, owner, managing editor of GateWorld.net, who I am partnered with for this program. Thank you so much for joining me. I had Teryl Rothery on in the last segment here. She was phenomenal as Teryl always is and we are going to definitely have her back in the future. But this is something that I’ve been wanting to do for a little while – since we did the very first show, which was trivia – to have Darren back for more trivia. How you doing buddy?

Darren Sumner:
I’m doing great. I’m trying to watch the live screen. The live stream on my other screen over here and I’m getting ads right now. So, I have no idea where we are in the show or what we look like, but I’m here. I’m here to play. I’m here to fight hard.

David Read:
Oh, you’re here to win.

Darren Sumner:
I don’t know about that. But we’ll give it the old college try.

David Read:
Absolutely. We had a number of trivia submissions for the month of October. And you – thank you by the way – you built a script for GateWorld where people could use – no mobile devices – but a desktop or a laptop computer something like that to submit trivia questions for me to give the guest, for the guest to I guess read back to me, I guess is the proper phrasing of it. So, those questions were wonderful and I have a winner for the month of October and that winner is Platschu. I’m not sure exactly what

Darren Sumner:
Is it a name?

David Read:
Yes, exactly. I’m not sure exactly what Platschu’s real name is but I do have his or her email and they are going to be winning the Stargate art back here.

Darren Sumner:
Those two that are on the wall back there.

David Read:
Yes. So, it’s Thor’s mothership, Biliskner, from Thor’s Chariot and then the one above that is Hathor’s power station, from Into the Fire. So, congratulations to Platschu.

Darren Sumner:
Congratulations Platschu. Long time GateWorlder.

David Read:
Yes. Gateworlder. Really? Oh, that’s fantastic.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah.

David Read:
All right, are you ready for me to reveal the November art?

Darren Sumner:
OK, this is for people who submit trivia questions in the month of November. We’re gonna have another trivia winner. Let’s see the prizes.

David Read:
Ken Rabehl. This is the concept art for the internal anatomy of the Stargate SG-1, of the SG-1 team, from Tin Man.

Darren Sumner:
From Tin Man. Oh!

David Read:
Yes, that’s what they look like on the inside. All mechanical. So yeah, body x-ray of robots.

Darren Sumner:
Remind me where they showed up on screen. Was this Doctor Fraiser’s scan?

David Read:
I don’t know if this was used on screen. Yeah, I’m not sure if it actually appeared. But this was designed to be her x-ray. I love this art. This is so cool. So, this is going to be going to a special fan.

Darren Sumner:
That’s awesome.

David Read:
Along with, one from Brent Herron. You’ll recognize this one Darren.

Darren Sumner:
It looks like a symbiote.

David Read:
Yep.

Darren Sumner:
Oh, this is from Osiris.

David Read:
Yes. This is Isis in stasis.

Darren Sumner:
This is a canopic jar.

David Read:
Dead Isis.

Darren Sumner:
Stasis unit.

David Read:
Yes. So, Brent Herron designed this for Season Four’s The Curse. And those two will be going in those frames tonight. And so, the person who submits the best trivia questions – a set of three for the month of November – will be getting these mailed to them, anywhere in the world, in December. So, you go to dialthegate.com or GateWorld.net\Dial the Gate and they will have… If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, I believe it says submit trivia questions. Is that right?

Darren Sumner:
Yep.

David Read:
So, that’s where that will be found.

Darren Sumner:
And that’s been a lot of fun to watch you do trivia with a lot of the guests.

David Read:
It’s been a better time than I thought it would. I wasn’t sure if it was going to work out or not but…

Darren Sumner:
Now a word to anybody who wants to submit trivia to try and win the art this month – or just because you want to submit trivia for the show – do your research. Make sure you have the right answer, because David’s not going to see these until they’re asked live on the air. So, make sure that you’re actually giving the right answer for the guest.

David Read:
And to be fair some of these answers were correct, but I misinterpreted them. So, for instance the Freddy Krueger one with Joe Flanigan, it was correct because he was talking about Nightmare on Elm Street. But then he mentions Freddy Krueger and I didn’t remember that. And I thought that that was an incorrect trivia question exactly. But they were right, but they just brought that up next. So, you know what? I’m definitely not perfect by no means.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, good. Well, we’re gonna see that today. We’re gonna see how imperfect both you and I are.

David Read:
I have one other announcement. My menagerie behind me here is getting an additional model, and that model has finally arrived from Hungary. I’m not sure if you’ll know what it is though.

Darren Sumner:
I am very intrigued. Ooh. What is that? Some sort of alien spaceship city?

David Read:
Spaceship city; that’s exactly right. This is Atlantis. And it’s a 3D print…

Darren Sumner:
That is phenomenal.

David Read:
…by Mr. Kevin Zabo. And he is Hungarian. And I’ve had the pleasure of getting to know this man over the past few weeks. And this is a phenomenal piece of work.

Darren Sumner:
Wow, that is cool.

David Read:
Yeah so, it’s going to be…

Darren Sumner:
Did he say how many pieces go into it?

David Read:
He did not. I don’t know. I mean, it’s a 3D print. So, a lot of it is like more or less a single piece. But yeah, it’s extraordinary. And he spent so much time on this thing. It’s clearly based on the later Atlantis design, because Atlantis was never, unfortunately, consistent throughout the show. Rainmaker [Entertainment] started off with the model in Season One and then I’m not sure which visual effects house got ahold of it later.

Darren Sumner:
I don’t know when the changes happen, but they did. They tweaked the model as they went on and it… Eventually, obviously, as the show went on it became more consistent. But we’ve got this when folks come asking us for a map or schematics of Atlantis or of Daedalus or anything along those lines. The CG models – they kind of don’t exist, or rather multiple versions of them exist.

David Read:
Right.

Darren Sumner:
Because it looked right. Atlantis looked different.

David Read:
It did.

Darren Sumner:
Depending on which episode you look at.

David Read:
And that was one of the things that they were aware of by the time that Universe came along. Everyone had the same Destiny asset. They made very clear, “OK, this is gonna be the star of the show. It needs to have a consistent look.” And so, they definitely did that moving forward.

Darren Sumner:
And they were also doing all their effects work – all their effects I think – in-house.

David Read:
For Universe?

Darren Sumner:
With Universe, weren’t they? Or were they farming pieces out?

David Read:
I don’t know about Universe. I know Image Engine had a lot to do with SG-1 and Atlantis. Image Engine eventually did the prawns in District 9 and before they had done that, they had done the replicators. The Image Engine did do the fish people – the Nakai.

Darren Sumner:
OK.

David Read:
I’m pretty darn sure of that. But they made it very clear later on in the show that they needed to create a consistent look for Destiny.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah. Get Mark Savela on the show and ask him.

David Read:
I have every intention of getting Mark on. Absolutely.

Darren Sumner:
Cool.

David Read:
And speaking of that, we have a couple of questions pulled over from Teryl’s interview that were meant for me at the end of that episode and I just wanted to bring them into this one. Theresa McCallister asked, “What’s up with David Nykl? Radek Zelenka was my favorite character in all three series; will he be on the show?” Yes. The answer is, I have spoken with David. I was going to announce him for wave two. I’m happy to do so now. We’ve – Dave and I – have been in touch. Awesome human being. And yes, he will absolutely be a part of the show. So, I can only announce so many people in the beginning, and there are plenty more to follow.

Darren Sumner:
That’s great. That’s really good news. So, wave two is early part of 2021?

David Read:
Yes, that is the intent.

Darren Sumner:
Excellent. I bet we started this at the beginning of October – you and I. We did this big announcement of thirty guests for wave one. And I’ve been keeping the schedule on the dialthegate.com page and seeing our thirty people that we announced… The list is steadily shrinking.

David Read:
But building at the bottom with images.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, yeah, filling up the archive of the live streams. You’ve done basically a season of television at this point.

David Read:
In many respects it feels like that.

Darren Sumner:
There is so much material. So many hours that you’ve talked to these folks, and I’m amazed. We’re what – five weeks into this now?

David Read:
This is week five and we just crossed 5,000 subscribers.

Darren Sumner:
And you’ve just done a terrific job. So, for everybody in the chat who’s listening right now – or watching us later on YouTube – thank you for all the work that you’ve done over the last five weeks. It’s been a ton of fun for my weekends.

David Read:
It’s been more work than I thought it would be. And I’m definitely going to be getting more help from people like Linda GateGabber and Jen. I’m so thankful for the people – for you – who have helped to make this possible. I couldn’t run the website. I couldn’t do that. There’s not enough time. And it’s been so wonderful to have you there. I can just send you a message at the last minute, “Hey, I need an image swapped out.” Or something like that. And you’ve been receptive and very patient. So, thank you.

Darren Sumner:
And it really does take a village.

David Read:
It does.

Darren Sumner:
It takes a lot of volunteers behind the scenes and in the chat and wrangling talent – takes a lot of people to do just a simple straightforward YouTube show like this.

David Read:
It does indeed. And today also crossed another milestone. It was a secret unlockable one though and no one really knew about this. I had, from the beginning… I wanted to have more than just one unique hashtag for the show on YouTube. I wanted to have another hashtag that meant something to me and to my personal experience in the series. And that was, hashtag turtle timeline. And I’ve been waiting, and waiting.

Darren Sumner
Waiting for somebody to spot it.

David Read:
Waiting for someone to spot it.

Darren Sumner:
Because it appears over the title on every Dial the Gate stream.

David Read:
Exactly right. And so Kyosho_lp, “What is the turtle timeline?” Winner. Kyosho_lp is going to be getting a prop replica from me. Kyosho_lp please email me at [email protected], and I will be sending you a prop replica of an ancient communication stone. The answer to the question is…

Darren Sumner:
What is the turtle timeline?

David Read:
Do you know the answer?

Darren Sumner:
I do because I asked when the show first started. And so, you reminded me I’d heard the term before. But I didn’t remember a turtle-based timeline on the TV show.

David Read:
Right. It’s an in-joke.

Darren Sumner:
So there are some turtles involved. Where did you meet the turtles?

David Read:
It’s an in-joke from Jack’s pond. When we watch Stargate in the original timeline there’s no fish in Jack’s pond. Supposedly. He may have just been lying about that the entire time, which I tend to believe, just to throw people off. But maybe not. And then he says definitively in Season Eight, “There’s no fish in my pond.” I think he says it once more, earlier on.

Darren Sumner:
And then we see the fish jump.

David Read:
We see the fish jump out of the water and back into it. And then he says….

Darren Sumner:
And he says, “Close enough.”

David Read:
That’s exactly right. Which is an homage to….

Darren Sumner:
The Simpsons.

David Read:
Right, because they do a time travel bit – I think in one of the Halloween episodes – and they come back…

Darren Sumner:
I think it’s one of the early Treehouse of Horror episodes.

David Read:
…and everyone has lizard tongues.

Darren Sumner:
This was the Treehouse of Horror spot where Homer accidentally goes back in time and sits on a bug in the dinosaur era and now, he’s skipping back and forth trying to fix it because he broke his timeline. And it’s raining donuts in one of them.

David Read:
Oh God. So, we went… When we were filming Dialing Home, Kieran and Jenny and I, who were all involved with MGM at the time for this for the project, went to Jack’s cabin and the only thing we could find everywhere, were turtles, all over the pond. And I took pictures of these things. I need to post them because it was a beautiful area. If you’ve never been, the next Gatecon convention when we’re all in person, go to the Locations Tour on Monday, check it out, because you will get a treat going to Jack’s cabin. It’s almost exactly what you think of it. We got to go inside the cabin and everything else for this for footage that has been shot, and MGM has, and I’m hoping that that they’ll publish it on Stargate Command. But when we were there, there were turtles all over this pond. And there were fish in there, but we couldn’t find any fish. We couldn’t see any fish. And so that became the running gag starting two years ago, that we are now in the turtle timeline. And that’s where that comes from.

Darren Sumner:
Very good.

David Read:
Now when people say this alternate timeline sucks, or whatever, I just say this turtle timeline.
Because we are in the turtle timeline.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, we’re now living in the turtle timeline.

David Read:
So spread the word. Absolutely. And so, thank you Kyosho for finally asking that question and congratulations on the prop – ancient communication stone. Group says, “Is there a due date for trivia questions and submissions or can they be submitted at any time?” Darren?

Darren Sumner:
Due date for trivia, for the particular contest, I guess you would want to draw a line. Whether it’s the last day of November or…

David Read:
Yeah, so when they’re in. When they’re postmarked to me. Absolutely. So, if you want these images, I need to get the trivia in November.

Darren Sumner
So, you’re doing monthly contests.

David Read:
I am.

Darren Sumner:
And you’re looking for trivia submitted for this one in the month of November. And I believe that GateWorld server is on east coast time.

David Read:
Yes.

Darren Sumner:
If you email by 11:59 p.m. on November 30th Eastern time…

David Read:
Using the form.

Darren Sumner:
…using the form. It should be postmarked.

David Read:
Yes. And I mean – look, here’s the thing, if the form asks for three questions and three answers – if you can’t think of three, it’s fine. Just put null, or something, in each of the other boxes so that the computer knows that there’s information in there. And I have Linda Fury, GateGabber. She’s organizing the questions and she’d be happy to combine the easy medium and hard ones that come in singly or doubly, instead of all three into other groups. So that’s fine. As long as we get your questions, that’s the only thing that I really care about. I think that that’s what I have here. And I think it’s now time for us to go ahead and play some trivia.

Darren Sumner:
You ready for trivia?

David Read:
I have been looking forward to this more than I’d care to admit my friend.

Darren Sumner:
Me too.

David Read:
To be perfectly honest with you.

Darren Sumner:
I’ve been scanning the Stargate Omnipedia, which has a nice little random page button to skip around. Unfortunately, I know you wrote most of the Stargate Omnipedia.

David Read:
Most, but not all of it. It’s been years!

Darren Sumner:
At least a good chunk of it. So yeah, I’ve been updating it over the years since you stopped. But you encouraged me to get a whiteboard or something to keep track of your score. So, I have a white board ready here. Is it flipped on screen?

David Read:
No. It works. There’s a zero!

Darren Sumner:
Well, you don’t have any points yet.

David Read:
I know, but blank works just fine.

Darren Sumner:
All right I’m going to keep your score.

David Read:
It’s my favorite color. It’s blue. I should have gotten green; for mine. I’ll have green next time. Is green still your favorite color?

Darren Read:
Green is my favorite color.

David Read:
I’m getting high on this thing man. My brain is just like going, “Whoa!”

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, I got to keep the cap on though.

David Read:
No. I don’t know what it is. This thing is so strong it doesn’t even matter.

Darren Sumner:
A new one.

David Read:
All right, so who’s going first?

Darren Sumner:
So, we’re doing just like you’ve been doing with our guests. We’re doing easy, medium, and hard questions. And they’re scattered across all three series. At least I didn’t choose anything from Stargate Origins. Anything outside of SG-1, Atlantis, and SGU.

David Read:
Yes, I kept them from the three series as well. I’ll throw one to you. Here’s an easy question. I have two easy, I have four medium, and four hard. That’s just how I designed it.

Darren Sumner:
Perfect. Perfect. I copied you. Because you told me that ahead of time.

David Read:
OK. Easy.

Darren Sumner:
Let’s start with easy.

David Read:
El numero uno. Darren, oh Darren, why did Colonel Young suffocate Sergeant Riley to death in Aftermath?

David Read:
To break my heart; specifically. To traumatize me.

David Read:
Haig Sutherland. I can’t wait to have him on. I hope he accepts.

Darren Sumner:
Oh, that’d be fabulous. You do need more SGU guests.

David Read:
I do. I’m trying to get them.

Darren Sumner:
We’ll get there. We’ll get there eventually. Why did he… Why did Colonel Young have to suffocate Riley? The shuttle had crash landed. Riley was trapped in the wreckage and mortally wounded. So, he was gonna die anyway. And they had to get the rest of the survivors back to Destiny before Destiny jumped away. Is that enough? Hey! I got a point.

David Read:
Here we go.

Darren Sumner:
I’m ahead.

David Read:
Yes, you are. All right, put it right in front of your face next time.

Darren Sumner:
Right in front of my face?

David Read:
Yes. There we go. Perfect. Now it’s framed exactly.

Darren Sumner:
But you can’t see me.

David Read:
I can; I just have to switch to the wider shot.

Darren Sumner:
Question number one. Speaking of the Simpsons – as we were just speaking of the Simpsons.

David Read:
OK.

Darren Sumner:
Simpsons star Dan Castellaneta guest starred in SG-1 Citizen Joe. That’s not the question. That’s too easy. Your question is, what did Joe Spencer do for a living?

David Read:
He was a barber.

Darren Sumner:
You got to give the people in the chat, a second.

David Read:
I don’t want them to win!

Darren Sumner:
That’s correct. He was a barber. And I’m gonna offer you a bonus point right here, if you can tell me what was the name of Joe Spencer’s business.

David Read:
Wasn’t it just Joe’s Barber Shop? The only thing that I can think of is Joe’s Barber Shop.

Darren Sumner:
Chat, can you help us out here?

David Read:
Chat?

Darren Sumner:
Anyone in the chat know this?

David Read:
Oh, chat. It’s going to take a minute for them to – it’s going to take around 20 seconds.

Darren Sumner:
They’re a few seconds behind us.

David Read:
Yeah, they are.

Darren Sumner:
OK, what’s the name of Joe’s business?

David Read:
Norman Yap says, “Barber”. Summer says, “Barber”. Arnie says, “Correct.” Sorry guys, it’s an eternity of anticipation.

Darren Sumner:
This is an almost live stream. Well, we’ll see if anybody gets it.

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
Stylin’ Joe…

David Read:
Stylin’ Joe.

Darren Sumner:
…is the correct answer.

David Read:
Oh wow. Well, there goes my bonus.

Darren Sumner:
There we go. There we go.

David Read:
All right perfect.

Darren Sumner:
You’re on the board.

David Read:
I am. OK. You keep an eye on that for me. Or no. You know what, John 42 said, “Joe’s Barber – Stylin’ Joe.” Carlos Takeshi, “Stylin’ Joe” and then Summer, “Stylin’ Joe.” They’re all going. Man, all right.

Darren Sumner:
Here we go. They got it.

David Read:
Very good. OK. Second easy question for you. When pleading one last time for his life Urgo admitted to SG-1 that he wanted to experience the universe, and do what?

Darren Sumner:
Urgo wanted to explore the universe, and he wanted to eat pie. Dom DeLuise, prince of a man. King of comedy. Funniest episode of SG-1.

David Read:
I love that episode.

Darren Sumner:
I swear, for my money, over…

David Read:
It’s that and 200 for me.

Darren Sumner:
…Wormhole Extreme, over 200 me.

David Read:
Really?

Darren Sumner:
Urgo was the funniest thing SG-1 ever did. For me.

David Read:
And Teryl brought him up earlier too. So, it was it was really wonderful. Numero dos.

Darren Sumner:
OK, here’s your second easy question. This is from Stargate Universe.

David Read:
OK.

Darren Sumner:
When Dr. Nicholas Rush requires surgery to remove an alien tracking device, Chloe uses the communication stones to swap bodies with a capable surgeon from earth. Who does she swap bodies with?

David Read:
Is it Dr. Brightman?

Darren Sumner:
It is!

David Read:
Yea!

Darren Sumner:
It’s Dr. Brightman. Played by Alison Down, who we had seen before previously on Stargate SG-1.

David Read:
She was between Frasier and Lam.

Darren Sumner:
And Lam, yeah. There were a couple of pinch-hitter doctors in Season Eight before they hired Lexa to play Carolyn Lam.

David Read:
That’s correct. Yep.

Darren Sumner:
For bonus points who played the other temporary doctor in Season Eight?

David Read:
There was another temporary doctor in Season Eight?

Darren Sumner:
I’ll give you a hint. He’s in Avatar.

David Read:
Yeah, he wasn’t a doctor per se. Yeah, he’s in Avatar and he was also in Learning Curve and I don’t know the actor’s name. I can’t think of it.

Darren Sumner:
You got the guy though. From Learning Curve.

David Read:
From Learning Curve. He was the leader of the Orbanians. But you can’t give it to me, because I can’t think of his character’s name or the actor’s name. Who is it?

Darren Sumner:
Andrew Airlie is the actor.

David Read:
Andrew Airlie. Do you know the character’s name?

Darren Sumner:
Dr. Skip. I don’t know the actor’s name – the character’s name – I don’t know.

David Read:
Andrew Airlie; let’s look it up. Yeah, he was along – Dr. Carmichael.

Darren Sumner:
Carmichael. OK.

David Read:
It says Kalan. Doctor Carmichael comma Kalan. Kalan Carmichael, I guess. Yeah, so he was keeping an eye on Teal’c’s vitals in Avatar. A good actor. All right, we’re entering medium territory.

Darren Sumner:
OK, things are gonna start to get tougher now. Suppose they’re not going to come quite so fast and furious.

David Read:
Put it up one more time. All right. Darren, what was the original name of the ancient warship Orion from Inferno?

Darren Sumner:
The original name of the Orion, which was the ancient ship discovered in Inferno.

David Read:
Beneath Taranis – well in a hangar.

Darren Sumner:
The original name – I only know the original ancient name of one ancient ship. I think. And that was the Hippaforalkus.

David Read:
That’s correct.

Darren Sumner:
That is medium. That’s very medium.

David Read:
It’s just hard for me to figure out medium or hard. It’s like which – in terms of categorizing them – which should this go into.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, me too.

David Read:
I can give him a softball or I can give him a hard ball. Bonus.

Darren Sumner:
Especially when it’s been a decade since I’ve seen some of these episodes.

David Read:
Yes. No, exactly. Bonus for you. Who was who was Hippaforalkus?

Darren Sumner:
I think it was an ancient general; wasn’t he?

David Read:
That’s correct. Yep.

Darren Sumner:
Good.

David Read:
All right, I’m feeling good. Oh, did I get a bonus point in there?

David Read:
Yeah, that was the bonus point. He was a general. That’s what I was looking for.

Darren Sumner:
All right, a medium question for David. In Season Seven’s Grace, Samantha Carter finds herself alone onboard Prometheus – which you’ll remember was stranded in this gas cloud. Where was Prometheus traveling to when it was waylaid?

David Read:
Earth.

Darren Sumner:
That’s correct.

David Read:
Oh my God. I was like, “Wait a second here.”

Darren Sumner:
I was trying to trip you up.

David Read:
Prometheus was either traveling toward earth or toward Atlantis at that point. It was like Season Seven. Man!

Darren Sumner:
You didn’t fall for it. I was trying to trip you up.

David Read:
I almost did! That’s good!

Darren Sumner:
For bonus points, where was it traveling from?

David Read:
It had been dead in space over the planet in Memento, and that planet was called – was it Tagrea?

Darren Sumner:
Did it land on the ground?

David Read:
And it landed on the ground. Was it to Tagrea?

Darren Sumner:
Bingo! Tagrea.

David Read:
You’re kidding! Am I right?

Darren Sumner:
Excellent. Look at that recall.

David Read:
That was a shot in the dark. All right, post ‘em.

Darren Sumner:
All right. Tagrea and you’re all caught up.

David Read:
All right. We’re…? I swear to God we are not pulling a Charles Van Doren. Wait, this is absolutely – I’ve never heard his… He’s never heard…

Darren Sumner:
Good quiz show reference.

David Read:
Yes, exactly. Good movie too!

Darren Sumner:
Mm-hmm.

David Read:
Why did Jack O’Neill originally fail the Za’tarc detector test?

Darren Sumner:
Why did he originally fail the Za’tarc test in Divide and Conquer?

David Read:
Divide and Conquer.

Darren Sumner:
Well, it’s kind of an advanced lie detector test with a little bit of Blade Runner thrown in there. He failed it because he was not being entirely truthful. He was not telling the whole truth, which is that the piece that he was leaving out was that he didn’t want to leave Anubis’ ship…

David Read:
Not Anubis’ ship.

Darren Sumner:
…because — Wasn’t it Anubis’…? Not Anubis’s. Apophis’ new super… I’s not a Ha’tak. It was a new super mothership that he was building. Because Sam was stuck inside. He left that out.

David Read:
There we go. That’s it.

Darren Sumner:
Ah! That was a long answer.

David Read:
No and that’s what I’m looking for.

Darren Sumner:
We got there eventually.

David Read:
Yeah, so very good.

Darren Sumner:
Keep giving me questions about plot from like Seasons Three, Four, Five.

David Read:
I didn’t want to just have proper nouns as answers I wanted to break it up a little bit.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, yeah.

David Read:
The other thing…

Darren Sumner:
Well, after we did this last time, I tried to stay away from too many proper nouns to throw at you.

David Read:
Absolutely. The thing that frustrates me about that episode is, they shouldn’t have succeeded in blowing it up. Because just a few episodes later he shows up with a brand-new mother ship anyway.

Darren Sumner:
That’s true. A little bit later in Season Four.

David Read:
I guess he was building doubles.

Darren Sumner:
Was not exactly set back by that mission.

David Read:
No. And the same thing, that occasionally happened on the show. It’s like Anubis since the beginning of Season Eight in Lockdown. They should just let him get away. He shows up later and that’s never explained.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, how he got out of the frozen Colonel?

David Read:
He would not have easily gotten off that frozen place. It would not have been easy.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah. I don’t know how he did it. He would have had to get out and presumably figure out how to dial the stargate without a body.

David Read:
We later found out that he had a connection to some level of a of a higher plane. So maybe that’s how he did it. He just jumped over somehow. Do you have another one for me?

Darren Sumner:
OK here we go.

David Read:
OK.

Darren Sumner:
Speaking of the planet Tagrea….

David Read:
Oh boy.

Darren Sumner:
These are connected.

David Read:
Oh, OK. I’m not great with Season Six.

Darren Sumner:
Speaking of Tangrea, which Goa’uld use to rule there before the planet’s resources ran dry? As SG-1 starts to explore the planet and talk with the Tangreans they learned that they used to be under the control of a particular Goa’uld who – of course – they referred to as their god, the old god.

David Read:
Was it Heru’ur?

Darren Sumner:
It was Heru’ur. Correct. Heru’ur abandoned Tagrea when their resources ran out.

David Read:
He did.

Darren Sumner:
All right, you’re up to a solid five.

David Read:
Sweet.

Darren Sumner:
These are going to get harder.

David Read:
It better. In Twin Destinies one David Telford wound up back on Earth. What was the fate of the other?

Darren Sumner:
Was that the end of the question?

David Read:
What was his fate?

Darren Sumner:
This is very funny because as I was writing these trivia questions last night, I’m thinking you and I are inside each other’s heads so much…

David Read:
Way too much.

Darren Sumner:
…that one of these days we’re just gonna come up with the same trivia question.

David Read:
You’re kidding me!

Darren Sumner:
But I didn’t, I didn’t come up with this one. I do have something – let’s see, did it make it into the list? I do have something from this that’s relevant a little bit later on.

David Read:
I’m not surprised.

Darren Sumner:
What happened to the Colonel Telford who didn’t make it back to Earth? He was killed.

David Read:
There we go.

Darren Sumner:
He got into a struggle with Rush and was electrocuted onboard the Destiny that was falling into the star.

David Read:
Destiny prime. Or Destiny not – I think it’s Destiny prime. I would think it would be Destiny prime. Anyway, yes!

Darren Sumner:
I guess it would be the first one. Yeah.

David Read:
That’s correct! Electrocution. Accidental electrocution. All right.

Darren Sumner:
Very good.

David Read:
Give it to me baby!

Darren Sumner:
When the Atlantis team catches up with Michael near the end of Season Three in the episode Vengeance, they discovered that he’s gone and wiped out one of our allies.

David Read:
OK. Yes.

Darren Sumner:
Who did Michael experiment on in that early phase of developing his hybrids?

David Read:
We’ve already mentioned them but I want to give a little bit of a gap for those who are following along to answer.

Darren Sumner:
Give a moment.

David Read:
And they’ve had…

Darren Sumner:
I know the chat is going to get this one.

David Read:
I suspect so. Well, I mean probably. If they’ve got Stylin’ Joe — The answer is, the Taranians.

Darren Sumner:
Clearly the smart people are attracted to the live stream of trivia.

David Read:
Yes, absolutely.

Darren Sumner:
They’re going to get all these.

David Read:
We have 115 concurrent viewers. That’s ridiculous.

Darren Sumner:
Excellent. I’m having fun. We more than doubled the last time that we did this.

David Read:
Oh, exactly. So, we’re looking up. Yeah, the Taranians.

Darren Sumner:
Taranians is correct. That’s the species from Inferno.

David Read:
Inferno. That’s exactly right. You know what, we’re gonna have to have a third person on if we do this again. I have to have one of the moderators or something. Show ‘em.

Darren Sumner:
I smudged your sixth point.

David Read:
I’ll wait.

Darren Sumner:
So, I’m gonna redo it.

David Read:
There we go! All right.

Darren Sumner:
This is what I love about what the Stargate writers did is, you’re watching Vengeance and if you’re not as invested in the mythology of the show, it’s just, “Oh it’s the Taranians.”

David Read:
Right, exactly.

Darren Sumner:
And that’s fine you’re not going to miss a beat as a new viewer but it rewards the long-time viewers. with that. We spent an entire episode with that people and they just got exterminated.

David Read:
I know! Brandy Ledford died off screen. I cried, a little bit. On the inside anyway.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, I love her.

David Read:
The conclusion of SG-1’s Family Ties features the beginnings of reconciliation for which characters?

Darren Sumner:
Oh, I thought this was going to be a question about the last scene.

David Read:
No. No, that’s overdone. “Vagina, vagina, vagina.”

Darren Sumner:
The beginnings of — OK, if nobody has context, this suddenly becomes the weirdest stream ever.

David Read:
You definitely need to be in the know.

Darren Sumner:
At the end of the episode, Teal’c goes… He’s got free tickets to go and watch what is…

David Read:
Virginia Dialogues.

Darren Sumner:
…what’s called the Virginia Dialogues. “I heard its really good.” Fred Willard.

David Read:
Yes.

Darren Sumner:
OK. But the actual question is, which two characters begin a reconciliation?

David Read:
Yes.

Darren Sumner:
I think it’s Vala and her father Jacek.

David Read:
No. Who else?

Darren Sumner:
They begin a reconciliation.

David Read:
They do, but who else?

Darren Sumner:
They do, but who else.

David Read:
If you get it, I will give it to you.

Darren Sumner:
OK, there’s another reconciliation?

David Read:
Another reconciliation. It is after all called Family Ties.

Darren Sumner:
It’s Family Ties. There’s a ‘B’ plot.

David Read:
Yep, these episodes normally have.

Darren Sumner:
There might even be a C plot in that one.

David Read:
I wouldn’t be surprised.

Darren Sumner:
The other reconciliation is going to be between General Landry and his estranged wife Kim.

David Read:
There we go! I wanted a name.

Darren Sumner:
All right, we got it.

David Read:
I wish we saw more of those three together.

Darren Sumner:
Carolyn’s mother.

David Read:
Carolyn’s mom. I think she’s supposed to be Vietnamese. Because he was a Vietnam veteran. All right sir.

Darren Sumner:
Phew! I feel like I just barely escaped falling behind in that one. Where are we at here? This is my last medium question.

David Read:
Yep!

Darren Sumner:
Which two System Lords once formed an alliance against their fellow Goa’uld Sobek, feigning a treaty with him only to decapitate him during the celebratory feast?

David Read:
Those dang Goa’uld. I know it, I’m just waiting

Darren Sumner:
Gotta get both names here.

David Read:
Uh-huh, yeah. It was Season Five. It was Summit. Summit and Last Stand was my favorite set of episodes until Season Seven came along. The answer is — And I really wish we had seen these two again.

Darren Sumner:
Yep.

David Read:
I think having episodes with the two of them would have been fantastic.

Darren Sumner:
They got mentioned.

David Read:
Yes.

Darren Sumner:
I think maybe one each. One more time.

David Read:
They did. Yeah, that was at least the nice thing about that was that the show provided context. The answers are Bastet and Kali the Destroyer.

Darren Sumner:
Correct.

David Read:
Very good.

Darren Sumner:
Two of those really cool, really well-designed System Lords that are introduced in the Summit.

David Read:
Yeah, otherwise known as?

Darren Sumner”
That we never saw again.

David Read:
Summit was… Daniel also called it what?

Darren Sumner:
Goa’uld Mardi Gras?

David Read:
That’s right. You ready for a hard one?

Darren Sumner:
OK.

David Read:
I have hard ones.

Darren Sumner:
Are we both seven for seven?

David Read:
Yeah! That’s why we held it up.

Darren Sumner:
[inaudible]

David Read:
Yeah, that’s right. Were you watching?

Darren Sumner:
Yeah. We’re gonna write some harder ones next time.

David Read:
Well, we haven’t gotten to the hard ones yet. So, I really hope that one of us trounces the other.

Darren Sumner:
OK. This may be all about to fall apart.

David Read:
Yeah, let’s not hold our breath. They’re hard. So, all right. Nicholas Rush was a college professor at which university? Bonus point for which university he worked with Dr. Andrew Covel…

Darren Sumner:
Oh jeepers!

David Read:
…played by French Stewart.

Darren Sumner:
I was looking over this episode last night because I was thinking about writing a question from it. And so, I’m sure my eyes skimmed over the name of it last night. I didn’t pick up on it. Rush…

David Read:
So, technically you can name either of these and I’ll give them to you.

Darren Sumner:
Oh, so presumably he was on faculty at a U.S. institution.

David Read:
Yep.

Darren Sumner:
And I would be very surprised if it was in Colorado where the SGC is. That would be a bit convenient. That narrows it down to 49 other states. So, let’s see.

David Read:
Getting warmer. College professor yourself, so hey. Dr. Sumner.

Darren Sumner:
I am a doctor. Duke University. I’m not going to get it.

David Read:
And you’ve got one more. So, what university did he work with Dr. Kavel?

Darren Sumner:
Oh, I definitely am not going to be able to call that one.

David Read:
OK. You want to take a shot?

Darren Sumner:
University of Michigan.

David Read:
Nick was a college professor at University of California Berkeley.

Darren Sumner:
OK.

David Read:
And he had previously worked with French Stewart, aka Dr. Covel, at Cornell.

Darren Sumner:
At Cornell, OK.

David Read:
Yep.

Darren Sumner:
That was very hard.

David Read:
Bzzzzt!

Darren Sumner:
Our difficulty curve just escalated sharply!

David Read:
Here we go.

Darren Sumner:
I don’t know if I wrote questions that are hard enough for you.

David Read:
Whose fault is that?

Darren Sumner:
All right, well you’re gonna get a hard one here. Relatively. Let’s see.

David Read:
I’m interested in going back and watching the chat on this one.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah.

David Read:
Sorry. Proceed.

Darren Sumner:
Name five episodes in which a main character – in other words someone who’s played by a main cast member – was killed. Was really and truly killed. Not talking about like in a dream or…

David Read:
A main cast member was killed off?

Darren Sumner:
A main character – someone played by a main cast member – was killed. Not just bodily injury. Not just injured really bad and then helped out with a sarcophagus. But really died.

David Read:
That we saw die on screen? Oh boy.

Darren Sumner:
And I also want to rule out – one more one more qualifier here – I want to rule out uh those who are presumed to have died off-screen but are still alive.

David Read:
Yeah. Like Weir.

Darren Sumner:
Like you were talking to Rainbow the other day.

David Read:
Yeah. Definitively died.

Darren Sumner:
And you mentioned…

David Read:
And they have to be the cast in the opening credits. At least with SG-1…

Darren Sumner:
You mentioned to Rainbow that Ford might still be out there.

David Read:
Right.

Darren Sumner:
We saw the hive that he was on explode.

David Read:
Yeah. This is what Stargate does. It’s just one of the….

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, that’s sci-fi. So, I came up with more than five.

David Read:
Wow! Really?

Darren Sumner:
Your challenge is to think of five!

David Read:
But died… But like… OK. So when we’re talking about Daniel – that he died on screen.

Darren Sumner:
Daniel died a bit, didn’t he?

David Read:
Right. So, does more than one of Daniel count?

Darren Sumner
Yes. We’re looking for episodes. So, if you can think of multiple episodes where Daniel really and truly died.

David Read:
Well, let’s just go down the cast. So, Daniel… They all died definitively because their hearts… Also, will you consider The Nox?

Darren Sumner:
I didn’t say definitively. I didn’t say they never come back.

David Read:
OK. Well, they all die in The Nox.

Darren Sumner:
Really died. They were killed.

David Read:
They were killed in The Nox.

Darren Sumner:
The Nox is one. That is correct.

David Read:
Yeah. That’s the only one where – I’m pretty sure – that’s the one, the only one where they all die on screen.

Darren Sumner:
They all died and the Nox brought them back.

David Read:
OK.

Darren Sumner:
Good.

David Read:
Do they have to die in the episode or do we see…? Can we see their bodies?

Darren Sumner:
You have something in mind?

David Read:
Mhm.

Darren Sumner:
You don’t have to see them die on screen if there’s evidence that the character actually is dead.

David Read:
But their dead bodies. You can’t think of one?

Darren Sumner:
Not in a virtual reality.

David Read:
Yep.

Darren Sumner:
Not a robot duplicate.

David Read:
Yeah. You can’t think of one. Really? Atlantis. Season Five. The Daedalus Variations.

Darren Sumner:
The Daedalus Variations?

David Read:
The Daedalus Variations. Yep, they’re all dead.

Darren Sumner:
Who died?

David Read:
They board the ship and the original versions of them… They all starve to death.

Darren Sumner:
Aha! The original versions of them. An alternate universe version of our characters.

David Read:
But that’s not that’s not fair.

Darren Sumner:
Not the same people.

David Read:
All right, then I won’t include that one then.

Darren Sumner:
OK.

David Read:
Come on! It’s the same people!

Darren Sumner:
I don’t think this is very hard! It’s just there’s a long way to go.

David Read:
There’s just a lot of qualifiers.

Darren Sumner:
You’ve got one so far.

David Read:
All right. So that’s the only one I can think of – I think that that’s the only one where Jack died.

Darren Sumner:
You can think of the obvious ones.

David Read:
Well, Daniel is Meridian and Reckoning [Part] 2.”

Darren Sumner:
Correct. And correct. Daniel really and truly does.

David Read:
So that’s three.

Darren Sumner:
We presume that because of the way that Meridian plays out that Daniel actually expires before he ascends.

David Read:
Oh, he dies. We hear the heart monitor.

Darren Sumner:
We get the flat line.

David Read:
The flat line. And then we’ve got Carson Beckett in Sunday.

Darren Sumner:
Sunday.

David Read:
He truly died.

Darren Sumner:
That’s four. See, you’re almost there – despite all my qualifiers.

David Read:
Teryl doesn’t count in Heroes unfortunately.

Darren Sumner:
It’s really fun if you think through the cast members, most of them died at some point in some story.

David Read:
Yeah. Teal’c died in um, Demons.

Darren Sumner:
Did he?

David Read:
Uh-huh.

Darren Sumner:
Did junior keep him alive?

David Read:
OK, fine. I’ll give you another one.

Darren Sumner:
There’s a lot to choose from actually. Let me say this, I’m not gonna count the alternate universe versions of characters…

David Read:
No, I can give you another one.

Darren Sumner:
…like in Vegas. But I will count averted timelines. I think those are our same characters.

David Read:
Yeah, but that’s not… I mean, that right there, that’s 2010. I can give you another one if I think about it.

Darren Sumner:
OK.

David Read:
I think I can give you another one.

Darren Sumner:
I’m looking over my list now and I’m thinking…

David Read:
Sam.

Darren Sumner:
…some of these are alternate timelines. Not alternate universes.

David Read:
Just alternate timelines.

Darren Sumner:
But averted timelines.

David Read:
Yeah, ‘cause Sam and Daniel and Fraiser and O’Neill all died in 2010. We watched Carter blow up aboard Phoenix at the end of The Last Man.

Darren Sumner:
That’s true. That is an averted timeline. I’m going to give it to you.

David Read:
Thank you.

Darren Sumner:
[inaudible]

David Read:
I can keep going, but people are going to be waiting on me. That was good!

Darren Sumner:
There’s a lot.

David Read:
Of course, it’s sci-fi.

Darren Sumner:
There’s a lot in over 300 episodes of Stargate.

David Read:
What else do you have?

Darren Sumner:
Well, Heroes is iffy. Because Teryl is a – quote-unquote – main character, but she was not on the main cast.

David Read:
Right. That would have been cheating on my part.

Darren Sumner:
I had Daniel in Reckoning, Part 2. Alternate Weir in Before I Sleep. The old Weir dies at the end.

David Read:
Yeah, I guess that’s a prime. That’s good.

Darren Sumner:
And then here is where our previous conversation on Twin Destinies comes in. Because, even if you don’t count Telford as a main character, he was right… Lou Diamond Phillips was sort of an honorary member of the cast.

David Read:
He was essentially top billing… One of the top billings for all-intents-and-purposes. So, [inaudible].

Darren Sumner:
But Rush dies in Twin Destinies.

David Read:
He does! That’s right.

Darren Sumner:
The alternate timeline Rush. The prime timeline Rush dies at the end.

David Read:
Interesting. All right. Well, there we go.

Darren Sumner:
Maybe folks in the chat have more, but good job.

David Read:
I suspect. Thank you. Oh, yeah. Let’s pull it up here. All right.

Darren Sumner:
David takes a narrow lead.

David Read:
Sweet.

Darren Sumner:
OK. I gotta catch up.

David Read:
All right. This one only you and I will know. Unless someone out there has watched all of the Stargate interviews on GateWorld. Because it’s in there.

Darren Sumner:
Oh my.

David Read:
Yep.

Darren Sumner:
This is a factoid from cast or crew?

David Read:
Cast.

Darren Sumner:
OK.

David Read:
What was David Hewlett’s personal nickname for the ancient personal shield generator? What did he tell us they were calling it on set?

Darren Sumner:
The turtle brooch

David Read:
That’s right!

Darren Sumner:
Yes. That’s it Hide and Seek in Season One.

David Read:
That’s right.

Darren Sumner:
And it comes back. Lucius has one.

David Read:
He does indeed.

Darren Sumner:
In irresponsible.

David Read:
Here I come! Proceed.

Darren Sumner:
Oh, very good. Here’s an Atlantis question for you. When actress Jill Wagner was unavailable to return to Atlantis as Larrin in Season Five’s The Lost Tribe. We instead got to meet another leader from the travelers played by actress Daniella Alonso. What was her character’s name?

David Read:
I don’t know, Ophelia? I don’t know.

Darren Sumner:
Flying around the galaxy with Zelenka. There’s a spin-off in the making right there.

David Read:
It’s a kid. Um, “We can’t do that.” “No problem!” I don’t remember her name.

Darren Sumner:
No. Different character. It wasn’t the young engineer.

David Read:
Ah, OK.

Darren Sumner:
Chat, I’m gonna give you a second. LeahButler has the first name. Katana.

David Read:
Ah!

Darren Sumner:
The character’s name is Katana Labrea. Just rolls off the tongue.

David Read:
Yep. That’s it. I think we’re caught up now.

Darren Sumner:
All right, that’s hard. That was hard.

David Read:
Yeah. There we go. All right. You ready?

Darren Sumner:
Ready. We got two left on either side.

David Read:
Two left. SG-1’s original replicators were built on individual blocks, each individual block possessing these energy particles. What were they called?

Darren Sumner:
These energy particles. Give chat a second.

David Read:
He knows it already.

Darren Sumner:
Because you’re asking me Season Four questions. I can tell you exactly where I was sitting. Where I was, where I lived and where I was sitting when I watched Small Victories.

David Read:
What’s this such-in-such?

Darren Sumner:
Replicator bots are held together by Keron particles.

David Read:
Keron particles. And at least how many Keron pathways are in each block? Bonus question, if you can get this exactly right.

Darren Sumner:
I don’t know if I’m gonna get it exact. I think it was trillions.

David Read:
You think?

Darren Sumner:
So, let’s say, over three trillion pathways.

David Read:
Two million.

Darren Sumner:
I don’t know. Two million.

David Read:
Yeah, two million Keron pathways.

Darren Sumner:
That’s a lot of pathways.

David Read:
Neutrinos. Nintendos. Oh my God, the childishness of our chat. I love it.

Darren Sumner:
Nintendos pass through everything.

David Read:
Nintendos do pass through everything.

Darren Sumner:
All right, how did that go? I got that one, but I didn’t get the bonus point.

David Read:
Right.

Darren Sumner:
OK.

David Read:
That was a medium question in hindsight.

Darren Sumner:
OK, here we go.

David Read:
OK!

Darren Sumner:
Question for you. This one is also a little bit uh, behind the scenesy.

David Read:
OK.

Darren Sumner:
You have to know a bit about production in order to get this one.

David Read:
OK.

Darren Sumner:
Which episode of Stargate Universe initially carried the working title Lucid? Very often on the show there’ll be a working draft title and then for whatever reason they’ll change it before it goes to air. This one was called Lucid when it was first being written.

David Read:
Is it Trial and Error?

Darren Sumner:
Final answer?

David Read:
It’s either that or Cloverdale.

Darren Sumner:
It is neither of those.

David Read:
Really? What was it?

Darren Sumner:
Uh, chat’s got it. It’s Human.

David Read:
That’s Rush’s episode. That’s right.

Darren Sumner:
What Rush is doing is he’s effectively having a lucid dream.

David Read:
Damn it.

Darren Sumner:
He’s deliberately getting back into his own memory to retrieve some information.

David Read:
Yeah. I think we need to bring Ian in. Ian’s impressing me here. So, OK. All right, hold ‘em up.

Darren Sumner:
All right. Are we down to the end?

David Read:
You’re one ahead. Yep, last one.

Darren Sumner:
OK.

David Read:
You ready?

Darren Sumner:
There are no prizes in this by the way.

David Read:
No, just hubris. How many characters has Mike Dopud played on Stargate, excluding uncredited characters.

Darren Sumner:
Excluding uncredited characters, which would be like random Jaffa fodder. How many characters?

David Read:
How many characters has Mike Dopud played?

Darren Sumner:
So, you’re looking for a number?

David Read:
I’m looking for a number.

Darren Sumner:
Mike Dopud. Of course we know him and we love him best from Stargate Universe, where he played Varro.

David Read:
So good.

Darren Sumner:
The Lucian Alliance.

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
The nice Lucian Alliance guy.

David Read:
Right.

Darren Sumner:
The guy who developed a crush on TJ in Season Two.

David Read:
I would argue that another one of his characters was equally interesting in only one episode.

Darren Sumner:
So, other than Varro, he did some single guest shots.

David Read:
So, Varro.

Darren Sumner:
On Stargate Atlantis he played the tracker in Tracker.

David Read:
Do you remember his name?

Darren Sumner:
I would have to dig for his name if you really want it.

David Read:
OK. You don’t need to know the name.

Darren Sumner:
And then he was the alien bounty hunter assassin on SG-1 in Bounty in Season. I think the answer’s three.

David Read:
Is that your final answer?

Darren Sumner:
Those are the ones that he’s most known for. He’s one of those actors who appeared in all three shows, which there’s not a ton of.

David Read:
Right. He had another speaking part.

Darren Sumner:
Another speaking part where he was credited?

David Read:
I shouldn’t have said that.

Darren Sumner:
Well, if he was credited, it’s more than likely not a speaking part. Because I remember… I want to say when he showed up in Season 10 that it was a reuse of the actor, that we had seen him before. Oh! He was a Russian.

David Read:
He got it!

Darren Sumner:
He played one of the Russian officers in Full Alert.

David Read:
That’s it!

Darren Sumner:
Full Alert? What’s the name of the episode? Is it Full Alert? Season Eight, where Kinsey gets Gou’alded.

David Read:
Correct.

Darren Sumner:
I think it’s Full Alert.

David Read:
Pretty sure it’s Full Alert.

Darren Sumner:
I always forget about that one. I’m glad you helped me out there because I always forget about Full Alert.

David Read:
I expect the same on my final question.

Darren Sumner:
All right.

David Read:
I don’t think I can win now, unless yours has a bonus.

Darren Sumner:
Bring this together.

David Read:
Unless it has a bonus question.

Darren Sumner:
We’re in this together.

David Read:
All right.

Darren Sumner:
You’re gonna get this. Well…

David Read:
I like your qualifier at the end there. “Well.”

Darren Sumner:
Over the years on GateWorld I’m the one who did the episode guide and so I’m the one who has instant recall of episode titles and episode numbers. So, I was watching you were talking with one of the guests a week or two ago and you’re like, “Oh, which — That number was this so-and-so.” I’m not sure which episode that was. Was it around…?

David Read:
That was Andee Frizzell, because we were talking about 307, 308, and 309. Phantoms ended up being 309.

Darren Sumner:
Phantoms. Yes! That was it. That was it. It was Phantoms.

David Read:
Yeah. I’m glad you’re watching.

Darren Sumner:
I’m watching the stream and I’m like, “Oh, that’s 309.”

David Read:
Yeah. Oh, God. No, I don’t the numbers.

Darren Sumner:
OK. So, this is an episode title question.

David Read:
OK.

Darren Sumner:
And it is again a multi-part question.

David Read:
OK.

Darren Sumner:
Amanda Tapping is the only Stargate SG-1 cast member to appear at least once in every season of Stargate Atlantis, as far as I can think. Obviously, she was a main cast member in Season Four. Name her appearances in Seasons One, Two, Three and Five.

David Read:
Wait, what? OK. Back up. You’re saying Christopher Judge did not appear at least once in every — Oh, season of…

Darren Sumner:
Every single season of Stargate Atlantis.

David Read:
…Atlantis.

Darren Sumner:
Atlantis.

David Read:
She appeared in every season of Atlantis?

Darren Sumner:
Stargate Atlantis was a spin-off television series.

David Read:
Yes, I know that. Thank you.

Darren Sumner:
It ran for five years on the Sci-Fi channel

David Read:
For God’s sake. OK, all right. So, Season One is Letters from Pegasus.

Darren Sumner:
Amanda’s in every season. She’s the only one I can think of. A main cast member who is in every season at least once.

David Read:
She’s in Letters from Pegasus.

Darren Sumner:
Yes, she is.

David Read:
She is in Grace Under Pressure.

Darren Sumner:
Season Two. Yes, she is.

David Read:
She is in McKay and Mrs. Miller.

Darren Sumner:
Yes, she is. It’s the introduction to Kate Hewlett as Jeannie.

David Read:
Yes, she first appears in Adrift.

Darren Sumner:
She does. But that’s Season Four.

David Read:
Right, that’s… You didn’t want Season Four?

Darren Sumner:
No, she’s a main cast member in Season Four.

David Read:
OK, so you wanted five?

Darren Sumner:
I just want the other seasons. One, two, three, and five.

David Read:
Oh, well then, Search and Rescue. I’ll wait.

Darren Sumner:
Is that your final answer?

David Read:
Well, she appeared in Search and Rescue.

Darren Sumner:
She did.

David Read:
Yeah, that’s my final answer.

Darren Sumner:
So, the question is, name her appearances in Seasons One, Two, Three and Five. Name all of them.

David Read:
Name all of them. Oh, Enemy at the Gate.

Darren Sumner:
Enemy at the Gate. There we go.

David Read:
OK.

Darren Sumner:
She’s in Season Five twice. Right at the beginning and right at the end.

David Read:
That’s right. That’s exactly right. Thank you for letting me hang on.

Darren Sumner:
Excellent. Very good job.

David Read:
Is there any way that I can tie you? Can you pull a bonus one out of your ass?

Darren Sumner:
I don’t know. What is my score right now?

David Read:
OK, you have ten and I have nine.

Darren Sumner:
I have ten? Oh, you must have done more bonuses than me.

David Read:
I did, that’s my point. Is there any way you could pull one out of your ass? And make it hard.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah. Well, I have a bonus question that I skipped or I substituted it for something else earlier.

David Read:
Well then, that’s fair.

Darren Sumner:
But it’s not hard.

David Read:
Oh. Can you tweak it to make it hard?

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, I’m gonna tweak it to make it hard.

David Read:
OK. Then that’s fair.

Darren Sumner:
We were talking about the episode Grace…

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
…and the earth vessel Prometheus.

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
Earth’s ships had a number of captains over the years.

David Read:
Yes.

Darren Sumner:
Part one, who is the captain of Prometheus in Grace? And to make it hard, what’s the name of the actor who played him?

David Read:
Oh God. It’s Colonel Ronson.

Darren Sumner:
William Ronson.

David Read:
William Ronson, who the President just kicks him off his own ship in Lost City and gives it to Don. I would have been pissed. “Wait a second, the Earth is under threat and you want me to go where? You want me to sit this one out?”

Darren Sumner:
Yeah.

David Read:
Yeah, OK. The actor’s name?

Darren Sumner:
I would not have remembered this without looking it up.

David Read:
It’s not coming to me. So, I tried.

Darren Sumner:
It’s John Novak.

David Read:
Ah, that’s right!

Darren Sumner:
I’ve got nine and a half.

David Read:
That’s funny.

Darren Sumner:
Which, for a ten-question quiz, hey that’s a solid A.

David Read:
That’s not too bad at all. Congratulations, my friend.

Darren Sumner:
Thank you.

David Read:
I’m coming for you next time.

Darren Sumner:
OK. Now I know what kind of standards we’re talking about here with easy medium and hard.

David Read:
Yeah, exactly.

Darren Sumner:
We’re gonna bring it next time.

David Read:
My God. Oh, God. Trying to see if anyone else had any other questions.

Darren Sumner:
Do I win the Pegasus plaque on your wall behind you?

David Read:
The Pegasus plaque? I mean, no.

Darren Sumner:
No. Looks cooler on your wall anyway.

David Read:
Well, I mean we need to we do need to get you something. So, I think we come up with something. I appreciate you playing.

Darren Sumner:
Thanks, it was fun.

David Read:
I appreciate you tuning in. We have a long, long way to go with this channel.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah. It’s off to a great start.

David Read:
It is.

Darren Sumner:
Almost 5,000 subscribers.

David Read:
No, we’re at 5,000 now.

Darren Sumner:
We’re at 5,000 now. In just five weeks.

David Read:
I’ll give some statistics to people, because I did promise to have some analytics. I love this dashboard. There are 5,030 subscribers as of today. The top video of all time – not a surprise here – is Mr. Joe Flanigan with 35,812 views as of right now.

Darren Sumner:
That’s amazing.

David Read:
That’s just insane.

Darren Sumner:
And you know, if anybody can do it, it’s going to be Joe.

David Read:
It’s going to be Joe. The next underneath that was the Stargate SG-1 Live Roleplay Session at 11,129. And then Paul McGillion.

Darren Sumner:
That was fun.

David Read:
That was ridiculous. It was absolutely insane. And then Paul McGillion at 6,518. The live plays are kind of obvious in my opinion, in some cases, in terms of the views. What was fascinating to me was the analytics data. 83,500 views so far, 18,000 watch time hours. So, a lot of people are really watching, which I really do appreciate. The audience data has been interesting. When you go to a Stargate convention you will notice it is predominantly female. On YouTube that is not the case.

Darren Sumner:
Very much not the case.

David Read:
What percentage would you say our audience is male on YouTube, for the show?

Darren Sumner:
For Dial the Gate?

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
I could only guess based on what I see in our analytics for the GateWorld channel, which has actually been in flux.

David Read:
That’s fair.

Darren Sumner:
We were – the male to female ratio – the males were high 90s for a long time and it’s just in the last few months started to come down. Probably because of a lot of these interview clips that you’re sharing from Dial the Gate out there that you’re publishing.

David Read:
I’m sharing? You’re sharing.

Darren Sumner:
You’re sharing clips from the show with us over there. So, our ratios come down to about 89 to 11, or 88 to 12.

David Read:
86.7 percent male.

Darren Sumner:
Male. OK.

David Read:
For Joe Flanigan I would not have expected that. I mean, don’t get me wrong he’s a great looking man you know and he’s very talented, but I wouldn’t have expected that.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, it’s just kinda the YouTube audience.

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
At least the kind of sci-fi edge of the YouTube audience.

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
It’s very heavily male.

David Read:
The geographics have blown my mind. They recently updated. So, the frustrating thing for me is, it showed the top 10 countries and at least 70 percent were Other.

Darren Sumner:
Other?

David Read:
Other!

Darren Sumner:
Other than your top ten?

David Read:
Underneath the ten. The top ten countries are United States at 36 percent, United Kingdom at 11 percent Germany at 5 percent, Canada at 5 percent, Australia at 4 percent, Czechia at 3 percent, France at 2 percent, Sweden at 2 percent, Netherlands at 1 percent and Hungary at 0.9 percent. And then you’ve got, Other.

Darren Sumner:
And then Other was how much?

David Read:
Other was like 70 percent. But now at least, not in this case now. But right there that was 47, 57, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67… But still, I mean that’s comfortably 35 percent is missing.

Darren Sumner:
Like a third of the audience…

David Read:
…which I think is absolutely extraordinary. You’ve got Romania, you’ve got Finland, you’ve got Poland, and Norway, and Ireland, and Ukraine. I mean, I could go down the list.

Darren Sumner:
Stargate itself was in what, 190 countries?

David Read:
Right, exactly. Then the viewer age was also interesting – 25 to 34 years old is 36 percent of our audience, 18 to 24 years olds make up 8 percent, 26 percent of the audience is 35 to 44, 16 percent is 45 to 54, 8.5 percent is 55 to 64. and 4.4 percent are 65 plus.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, that sounds about the same as GateWorld’s channel.

David Read:
OK.

Darren Sumner:
Those two categories between… What is it? 25 and 45 years. That’s a little over half the audience.

David Read:
Yeah. And then finally – I’m interested to see where yours falls on this – subscribers make up 26 percent of the viewing audience, non-subscribers are 73 percent.

Darren Sumner:
Good! Now this is an important metric.

David Read:
Really?

Darren Sumner:
It shows how well you’re reaching people other than your subscribers, which is an important part of how you build your subscribers. And also, are the people who sign up – who subscribe to your channel – are they actually engaged? Are they clicking on stuff that you post? So, both of those numbers are important and interesting. Not that one of them necessarily always has to be higher than the other. GateWorld, I think – typically what do we see? Subscribers are, I think, somewhere around 15 percent.

David Read:
Really?

Darren Sumner:
15 – 17 percent.

David Read:
So, 26 percent.

Darren Sumner:
Those who are not subscribed to the channel are usually in the mid to high 80s I think – for views on any given video.

David Read:
I didn’t expect that. Actually, I don’t know what I expected – to be perfectly honest. But yeah, this has been interesting.

Darren Sumner:
There’s a whole mad science to YouTube.

David Read:
Oh yeah!

Darren Sumner:
And to the analytics of it all.

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
I tried to educate myself as best I could, but there’s only so much you can do. At the end of the day you just gotta do your work and put it up.

David Read:
And I’ve subscribed to channels before and – as you do – and I’ve watched the behavior of the speaker and the author of the channels evolve, and it’s clear that they’re watching the analytics, and generating more of what people click on, more and more. So, you kind of get this spiral. And frequently, it’s rage content in a lot of the stuff that I’ve been seeing.

Darren Sumner:
Yep.

David Read:
I watch a lot of Midnight’s Edge. I don’t know if you’re aware of them. They’re kind of like in the sci-fi industry – got their thumb on the pulse of the sci-fi community. Another one that I watched a long time was Nerdrotic. For a long time and just got really angry. And I was like, “I don’t… This is not really…” It’s just interesting to watch how analytics effect people.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah. For some channels out there, I think the anger and the angst is genuine – that’s what people want to express on their channel.

David Read:
It’s genuine, but it’s clickable.

Darren Sumner:
But yeah… People recognize that that’s the stuff that people click on, whether it’s intensely positive or intensely negative ideas and emotions.

David Read:
If you’re counting on that.

Darren Sumner:
That stuff drives clicks.

David Read:
It does. And if you’re needing your channel for financial purposes, if you’re counting on your channel for monetization, oof. And that is nowhere that I want to go with this thing. Thank God!

Darren Sumner:
Yep.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, it takes some channels down kind of a dark hole when suddenly their channels revenue, which, if you’ve got enough that you quit your full-time job and do this for work now, suddenly your income is tied to your ability to shock and outrage people.

David Read:
It’s an interesting situation for sure. And congratulations on 50,000 subscribers!

Darren Sumner:
Thank you!

David Read:
You started 2018?

Darren Sumner:
We opened the YouTube channel officially 2008 or 2009 and we just didn’t do anything with it.

David Read:
Ah, OK. So, you started creating content in earnest.

Darren Sumner:
We weren’t creating content until 2018. Adam Barnard and I started making videos two and a half years ago.

David Read:
Good ‘ol Adam. Hello Adam.

Darren Sumner:
So, we started… We were right around, I think, 900 subscribers just over the course of like nine years of GateWorld just existing and not really posting anything. So yeah, it’s really been two and a half years of growth.

David Read:
It’s good stuff and we have a long way to go.

Darren Sumner:
We’re super excited. We’re gonna do more. I just need time. People are looking for more videos on our channel. I just need time and volunteers. Just like folks volunteer at Dial the Gate. If anybody wants to do anything to help out at GateWorld – we’re always looking for folks to fill in the gaps and help us do the kind of stuff that we want to do and that you want to do.

David Read:
The rallying of fans around the projects. I mean, Summer, Ian, Tracy, Keith, Jeremy – my moderators – have been fantastic. GateGabber Linda – she’s kind of turned into my right-hand man. Really, she’s just exceptional and on it. And then I have Jennifer Kirby, who is another production assistant who is creating some social media content. There’s a long way to go though, for sure. And you don’t want to go too fast, because when the audience is still small you want a lot of the more interesting ideas – at least I do I don’t want to just throw it all out there for a really micro group and then have it buried in content when a couple years, three years down the line, we’re at like 30,000 subscribers or something like that. At least that’s what I hope. But yeah, it’s a game though, of cat and mouse. It’s like… When should I release this idea, and when should I hang on to it. And Melinda Snodgrass always talked about, “Don’t hoard your silver bullet.” She wrote The Measure of a Man in TNG. But it’s been an interesting process to go through this. And I’m really grateful that you have my back.

Darren Sumner:
Oh yeah.

David Read:
You do have my back, right?

Darren Sumner:
Oh yeah, I got your back.

David Read:
Oh God.

Darren Sumner:
Whatever you need.

David Read:
I don’t think that there’s any briefing room news. I think that we’re basically in the same spot that we were in a month ago – regarding the franchise. The Dean Devlin interview – man, oh man! He gave far more information than I thought he would. Mayan Stargate? Chevron eight and nine went to different unique addresses?

Darren Sumner:
You did a great job pulling a lot of that out of him, because I’ve seen interviews with him all over the place for the last 20 years. But usually, the person who’s interviewing him doesn’t know the minutia of Stargate and be able to pry out something as specific as, “The stargate has more than seven chevrons. Was there a plan for that?”

David Read:
Yeah, and I wouldn’t want to waste sharing, divulging, that knowledge on someone who either didn’t know or didn’t care. But that was a fascinating discussion. I’d love to have him back. And Roland has promised to do the show next year. So, there’s a lot to get to. And there are a lot of people to talk to. And I’ve been watching the comments and seeing a number of people at the very least comment and say that in many cases the behind-the-scenes talent, they’re more interested in watching those interviews than they are. Not that they don’t enjoy the actors, but they’re more interested in watching those because a lot of those stories just haven’t been told. The Rob Cooper was another one that was just absolutely fascinating. Rob had all this information and was more than willing to go into all the details. His conversation, talking about Unspeakable, was fantastic! And I had not seen the program. And I went and watched it. And I watched all eight episodes in one night.

Darren Sumner:
Oh, you did?

David Read:
In one night. And Michael Shanks is a tour de force. You need to see it.

Darren Sumner:
I’m sure he is.

David Read:
And Lexa’s in it. Everybody’s in it! Pretty much everyone. There’s like fifty Stargate cast. So, totally recommend that.

Darren Sumner:
I talked a little bit to Michael and Lexa when we did our interview with them at Gatecon two years ago. So, we have some on YouTube right now, on the GateWorld channel. We’ve got an interview with Michael and Lexa which was shot about the time where they… Unspeakable had not come out yet. They had filmed it, and they hadn’t started the press junket, but I think they were doing ADR at the time to kind of polish up the performance. So, they talk about Unspeakable in that interview.

David Read:
I didn’t realize that it had already been shot at that point.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah.

David Read:
Interesting. Tiber Septim asks, “I have a hard question for both of you.” I don’t have an answer here. So, we’re gonna have to wait around, unless you and I can come up with it.

Darren Sumner:
OK.

David Read:
Wait around until the chat catches up. “What are McKay and Eli arguing about in the hallway in Seizure in Stargate Universe?” What are they arguing about? I remember them arguing, but I don’t remember what it was. Do you remember what it is?

Darren Sumner:
I don’t remember.

David Read:
I guess we’re waiting for Tiber to answer it.

Darren Sumner:
That’s a toughie. Tiber you gotta tell us.

David Read:
I hope Tiber’s still on.

Darren Sumner:
You gotta tell us.

David Read:
I don’t remember what they were arguing about. But anyway, we’ll find out in a second here. My friend, it’s been a pleasure to have you. Thank you so much for coming back.

Darren Sumner:
Thank you! Thank you for having me! I told you online the other day that I will be your Andy Richter whenever you want. I will just come sit on the couch and we’ll do trivia, we’ll talk about how the show’s going – the show is the interviews with the talent – but this is a nice little break.

David Read:
It’s a good… Yeah, taking the temperature every dozen and a half episodes.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah. But you’re doing great work. Keep it up!

David Read:
Thank you. I do appreciate it.

Darren Sumner:
We got cool people coming up. Who’s coming up?

David Read:
Who is coming up?

Darren Sumner:
Who’s officially announced so far?

David Read:
And I’ll announce a couple more. Next week at 1:00 PM Pacific Time, on Saturday, I guess this week, Saturday the 14th, Suanne Braun. Miss Hathor herself.

Darren Sumner:
Hathor herself.

David Read:
Hathor herself. Yep. And then at 3:00 PM, from the Pegasus galaxy, Mr. Rainbow Sun Francks will be joining us.

Darren Sumner:
Very good. Awesome.

David Read:
And I have fixed the YouTube times. I have to mark them Arizona time, because it says local time. The YouTube, the back end, it doesn’t really give you a very good idea of how that works. You can’t just change the time zone, which drives me nuts. There’s a way to do it, I’m sure, but it’s not obvious. It’s not just right there. So yeah, Suanne will be at 1:00 PM Saturday. Rainbow will be at 3:00 PM Saturday. Then, the 21st of November I am actually gonna be in Florida that week for Thanksgiving. I will be back the 28th, but we will have shows planned for thee. At 1:00 PM, It is an archive interview. I’m so grateful that I have this. I’m so thankful that I have this.

Darren Sumner:
Yes.

David Read:
It is 10 years old. Do you want to say who it’s from, who it’s with?

Darren Sumner:
Well, I know we have a set of interviews… They’re in the category of lost interviews that we never got around to publishing. Is this what you’re talking about – the set from the TimeGate?

David Read:
Yes, TimeGate 2010.

Darren Sumner:
One of them is Carmen Argenziano.

David Read:
Carmen Argenziano. I had an hour with him. And we will be interviewing Carmen for the show. We will have – that sounds strange. We will have that pre-recorded interview of Carmen for the weekend.

Darren Sumner:
Never before seen interview. Carmen played Jacob Carter. He passed away last year – 2019 – I want to say it was early 2019.

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
Never before seen unless you were in the room at TimeGate.

David Read:
Yes, unless you were in the room there. Diana Botsford and I were a couple of the invites for Stargate – as well as Carmen. And one of the caveats of attending the convention was, I need an hour with Carmen. So, it was fantastic.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah. Because you were super jealous of me because I had gotten to interview him at the Chicago Creation Convention.

David Read:
That’s exactly right! It was. And I mentioned that at the beginning. And I think Denise interviewed him as well – if I’m not mistaken.

Darren Sumner:
That’s right. That’s right. I think we published a text interview.

David Read:
That’s right.

Darren Sumner:
If I’m not mistaken.

David Read:
So, his archive interview is going to be at 1:00 p.m.

Darren Sumner:
That’s going to be a treat. Dial the Gate. Carmen Argenziano is going to be on Dial the Gate. Never before seen interview. That’s going to be a real [treat] for Stargate fans.

David Read:
At 3:00 PM on the 21st – this is still a tentative time I may move it up, because Carmen’s is only an hour long. The 3:00 PM currently – Joseph Mallozzi is back for his second episode.

Darren Sumner:
Nice. Very good.

David Read:
And we are going to be talking about Season Four. Potentially a little bit of Season Five of SG-1. We’re now beginning to move through the content.

Darren Sumner:
So, you talked about Joe in week one, or at least week one of the full talent interviews.

David Read:
Right. Yeah. October 10th.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, you did kind of a big picture with Joe and with some of his early career stuff.

David Read:
Right.

Darren Sumner:
So, now you’re officially going to kind of get into his episodes that talk through season by season?

David Read:
That’s the intent, yeah. So, the intent is to go through season by season. But the other thing about that second episode with him is going to be I want him to take us through the entire writing process for one episode from beginning to end. There’s like 10 steps and he sent them to me already and we’re going to cover them step-by-step. That’s one of the things that I think…

Darren Sumner:
That’ll would be fun.

David Read:
Yeah, after the introductory interview, then the next interview with all these people is to find out what their process is for whatever it is that they worked. We did that for Neil Acree. He took us through the list of steps for creating the soundtrack for a typical Stargate episode. And Joe will do that in episode two of his batch.

Darren Sumner:
Cool.

David Read:
Which should be episode 21 at that point. Man! I’m really glad I put an extra zero in front of the episode numbers, because we’re gonna hit 100 before you know it.

Darren Sumner:
Oh yeah, you’re flying through these. By the time we get to the end of the year I don’t know where we’re going to be at.

David Read:
Well, havin’ fun!

Darren Sumner:
Like I said, it’s like a full season of television.

David Read:
It is! In many cases. I’m having a good time with this. The four shows a weekend is a butt kicker. I can do them every once in a while.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah.

David Read:
As long as the audience is showing up for them. They clearly are. I mean, we’ve still got 91 concurrent viewers watching us yap. We started off with 150.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah.

David Read:
So, I consider that a win.

Darren Sumner:
What was the record during the live stream? The live live.

David Read:
Tonight?

Darren Sumner:
No. Of the last month.

David Read:
Oh, Joe Flanigan.

Darren Sumner:
Joe Flanigan had the most simultaneous?

David Read:
350. 350 simultaneous viewers.

Darren Sumner:
Wow.

David Read:
Yeah. I can’t trust the count because when I leave and then I come back in, it adds a person. So, that’s not fair. So, it says – I’ll get done and it said, “You had a thousand views.” And I’ll go and check and I had 500. It’s like, because people logged out and logged back in – the same person.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah.

David Read:
But yeah, that’s all I’ve got. We’ve got a couple of more announcements coming for the rest of the month, but I will keep those in my back pocket. But that’s it. So, Suanne, Rainbow next week and then archive Carmen and Joe Mallozzi. I’m actually taping Joe on Tuesday. That’s going to be on the 21st. I need to get a haircut for consistency.

Darren Sumner:
Fantastic.

David Read:
Do you think I should cut this, or should I keep it the way it is?

Darren Sumner:
Uh, I don’t know man. Yeah, go get a haircut!

David Read:
All right, there we go! I’ll go get it.

Darren Sumner:
I don’t know. We’re heading into the winter.

David Read:
We are indeed.

Darren Sumner:
I’m not going to make anybody get a haircut in the wintertime.

David Read:
Just watched the scene from Seizure, “They are arguing about boundary conditions for an equation we know nothing else about.” So, there we go. There’s the answer. [inaudible]

Darren Sumner:
Sounds specific.

David Read:
Ian, “Have you thought about hosting a writer’s room? They write a new episode of Stargate. Sort of like what you did on What we Left Behind for DS9.” Group discussions – I don’t know about a new Stargate episode, considering that they’re trying to develop a new Stargate. That may be a little bit further down the line. But we talked about with Martin Wood – I do want to have a director’s room. So, the director’s round table to have them – all the directors of Stargate come back. Or any of the ones who want to. That’s going to be huge and I don’t know how…

Darren Sumner:
I would love to see you put two fairly random people on a stream together and just have them go at each other. Like a Peter DeLuise and a Ben Browder. Just put him in a room together. Like steel cage death match. Ask him a couple of questions and then just step back.

David Read:
Oh God. What was it, Mad Max 3, Beyond Thunderdome?

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, that would be highly energetic.

David Read:
Oh, God. That’s funny. Guys, thank you so much for tuning in. Darren, thank you so much for logging in. You OK?

Darren Sumner:
All right. Yanked my headphones out of my speaker.

David Read:
Oh no! Your headphones want to go.

Darren Sumner:
Want to be free.

David Read:
And we need to go as well. My friend, it’s been a pleasure and we’ll have you on I’m sure in December to announce another round of trivia. I’d love to have three. I’d love to have another person join in. So, I’m gonna have to – if Ian’s game, I think I’d like to have him in. But this was… terrific. Gary Jones has also agreed – oh, that’s one of the things we didn’t mention – he’s also doing fan interviews for Dial the Gate. I talked with Gary yesterday. I texted him and he’s like, “When are we doing this?” We just need to figure out a time to sit down and organize for five or six groups of fans to meet us all on Zoom at the same time and then we’ll hammer a few of these out.

Darren Sumner:
Awesome.

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
You guys announced that in your conversation with Gary.

David Read:
We did! We haven’t really talked about it.

Darren Sumner:
That’s really exciting.

David Read:
Yep.

Darren Sumner:
We’re like three weeks in and Dial the Gate is getting its first spin-off.

David Read:
I know! Yes, it’s kind of a subcategory. My friend, thank you for joining. And we’ll have you back on real soon.

Darren Sumner:
Always a pleasure.

David Read:
Thanks, brother. You take care of yourself.

Darren Sumner:
You too.

David Read:
Bye-bye. Darren Sumner everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in. But you know what’s coming next. Before we go… And that’s the wrong button. If you like what you’ve seen in this episode, I would appreciate if you click the Like button. It really makes a difference with YouTube’s algorithm and will definitely help the show grow its audience. Please also consider sharing this video with a Stargate friend. And if you want to get notified about future episodes, click that Subscribe icon If you plan to watch live, I recommend giving the bell icon a click so you’ll be the first to know of any schedule changes, which will probably happen all the time. Hasn’t happened as much as I thought it would, but still, it can happen. And bear in mind, clips from this live stream will be released over the course of the next several days on both the Dial the Gate and GateWorld.net YouTube channels. Thank you so much once again for joining us. Thanks to my moderators Summer, Ian, Tracy, Keith, Jeremy. Thank you to GateGabber Linda and to Jen Kirby – my team. It’s wonderful to see the show succeeding already. Week five with 5,000 subscribers. So, I cannot thank you all enough for the honor and pleasure to continue to present this content to you. Thank you also to Kevin – it took me a minute buddy – to Kevin for producing this wonderful Atlantis model for the show. I’ve got a lazy-Susan for it to go under. So, when it goes up behind me it’s going to be spinning. Make it spin. My name is David Read. Thanks so much for watching Dial the Gate. We’ll see you on the other side.