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Timecodes
0:00 – Splash Screen
1:47 – Stargate Auctions Archive Footage Compilation
5:01 – 2010 SG-1 Gate Auction Archive Footage
6:59 – Opening Credits
7:30 – Guest Introductions
8:47 – SG-1 Gate Is on Heritage Auctions
10:20 – What’s up with Lee?
10:58 – What’s up with Curtis?
12:27 – Curtis’ Stargate Story
13:34 – Welcome, Damian
14:45 – Damian’s Propworx Story
17:14 – Lee’s Propworx Story
18:59 – Propworx Memories
21:51 – Damian’s Favorite Pieces
23:09 – David’s Propworx Story
26:34 – Propworx Was Hard Work
27:19 – Logistics of Shipping Props
30:07 – Propworx at San Diego Comic-Con
31:45 – Availability of Props to Fans
33:20 – Many Props Are in the Hands of Fans
36:35 – High Resolution Pictures of Props and Blueprints
38:37 – Talking Stargate Continuation
41:10 – Ronon’s Gun Prop
41:55 – Staff Weapon Prop
42:55 – Lee’s Favourite Pieces
45:29 – Displaying Stargate Props
47:56 – Prop Deterioration
48:58 – Curtis’ Favorite Pieces
50:15 – Stargate Fans Worldwide
53:29 – Stargate Is a Family
54:35 – Cataloging the Prop Library
55:41 – Not Everything Would Go on Auction
59:46 – Pricing the Props
1:03:21 – Propworx Stargate Auction Catalog #1
1:06:25 – Thank You, Damian
1:08:49 – Catalog Prices
1:10:39 – Heritage Auctions Details
1:13:19 – Heritage Auctions Live: Mystery Science Theater 3000 Puppet
1:15:18 – Heritage Auctions Live: SG-1 Full-Scale Screen-Used Travel Stargate
1:18:36 – The Auction Winner
1:20:12 – Shipping the Stargate
1:22:07 – The Stargate Pedestal Story
1:24:27 – Process of Putting Catalogues Together
1:27:01 – X-699 Prop
1:28:49 – Final Thoughts
1:30:52 – Post-Interview Housekeeping
1:34:38 – End Credits

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TRANSCRIPT
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Damien:
We were up there for a week, and it took pretty much seven 18-hour days to pull two series and their Stargates apart.

Damien:
So, right here you can see the gear that turned the inner track, which was exposed for probably the first time in over a decade. It made me so sick to see that thing pulled apart. But the team went out of their way, they were incredibly careful, and they were meticulous in their planning of the dismantling of the Gate. And I knew that we were gonna get it to someone who would absolutely love it.

David Read:
And what followed next was 18 months of Stargate heaven. It was one of the best times of my life.

Damien:
This is for your blog. Here you go. Now you’re just in it. I want you to do an introduction.

David Read:
Hi, I’m David Read for Propworx.com, and we are here with the supreme commander of the Asgard fleet, Mr. Thor. He’s been augmented with this little doodad here, and this badge here.

Damien:
It’s Thor.

David Read:
And now we’ve got him, and we’re gonna be making him available to one very special fan this year in 2010. He’s really greasy.

Unknown voiceover:
It’s been on the air for more than a decade, and now you can own part of the sci-fi world of Stargate. Hundreds of props and costumes from the TV show are about to go on the auction block right here in Seattle.

David Read:
This is an anti-replicator gun from Atlantis. This is a power crystal here. The stock closes.

Unknown voiceover:
Maybe your house wouldn’t be complete without a spaceship control console, complete with light-up buttons. Many of them work for your next outer space adventure. This weekend, MGM will auction off over 800 items.

David Read:
The care that was put into developing each of these things, it’s not like other shows.

Unknown voiceover:
David Read is the auction company’s Stargate expert and huge fan. And to most fans, this isn’t just memorabilia.

David Read:
But for sci-fi fans, a lot of us, we live it. And to be able to own a piece of that world is really, really special.

Auctioneer:
$13,000 and … I have a 13. Now 14,000. 14,000, third and final time. Sold online for $15,000.

Auctioneer:
Behind the chevrons. This auction includes two metal stands. One stand rests the Stargate directly on the ground, and the other places the gate 20 inches from the ground. The Stargate itself measures 22 feet diameter. Stone pedestal and dial home device are not included with this.

Auction Participant:
What’s the diameter?

Auctioneer:
The diameter is 22 feet.

Auction Participant:
22 feet in diameter.

Auctioneer:
All right. Opening bid, folks. We have an opening bid of 70,000 on this item already. $70,000. From here we’re gonna go to $80,000 now. I’m bid $70,000, now $80,000. I’m bid $70,000, now $80,000. I’m bid $70,000, now $80,000, now $80,000, now $80,000. I’m bid $70,000, now $80,000. It’s a small little $10,000 increment, folks. $70,000, now $80,000. I’m bid $70,000, now $80,000. $70,000, now $80,000. I’m bid $70,000, now $80,000. Will it help you out if I do $75,000 one time? I’m bid $70,000, now $75. $70,000 bid, now $75,000. I’m bid $70,000 now $5,000, now $5,000, now $75,000, now $75,000. Looking for $75,000, folks. It’s a deal on it at $75,000. Looking for $75,000. I’m bid $70,000, now $75,000. All through. We’re looking for $75,000. Anyone else? $75,000 going once

Auction Participant:
It’s perfect for backyard entertainment.

Auctioneer:
Yes, it is. Well said. $75,000 going twice. Making sure. $75,000, third and final time. You got me real excited for a minute. He’s got nothing. Sold for $70,000. Congratulations to our winner.

David Read:
Welcome everyone to Dial the Gate: the Stargate Oral History Project. My name is David Read. This is Episode 454, Stargate Live Auction. Now, I was trying to decide how I was wanting to frame the title of this one, and it is a Stargate live auction of a live auction of the Stargate itself. And joining me, to walk down memory lane a little bit, the last time this particular item was sold, I have my friends, Lee Webb, who was our photographer at Propworx, and Curtis Short, who was my manager at Propworx as well. Guys, it is so wonderful to have you back. Lee, you’ve recorded with me, but we’ve not published it live yet. So, welcome to Dial the Gate, sir.

Lee Webb:
Thank you. I’m glad to be here. I’m very excited.

David Read:
Thrilled to have you.

Lee Webb:
I love this–

David Read:
This guy is a masterful photographer.

Lee Webb:
— dreaming this stuff back up.

David Read:
All right. So I have… So what is it that’s happening? Oh, and Curtis, how are you doing?

Curtis Short:
Hey. I’m fantastic, everybody. Fantastic. Great to be here.

David Read:
Hey.

Curtis Short:
Pleasure. Yep.

David Read:
It’s good to have you back on the live show. So, what’s happening here is that the travel Stargate that was built for Stargate SG-1 and went all the way from “Children of the Gods” through to “Seizure” in Stargate Universe was sold by us in September of 2010 and it is being relisted now on the Heritage Auctions website. So, we are following this in real time. The link to this is in the description below if you wanna go and check it out. It is currently at $52,500 and the auction itself just went underway about nine minutes ago. The Stargate auction is 89490, and they are currently on 89451. I spoke to someone at Heritage Auctions, and they say they run through about 39 auctions per hour. So, we’ve got probably 50 minutes before it goes live. There’s that particular listing. So, we’ve got plenty of time to catch up with each other and to talk a little bit about our time at Propworx and all of the stuff that you’ll be probably hearing again on the documentary that I’ve been working on for like three or four years now, putting all of our voices together. So, I’m thrilled to have you guys for this. What’s noteworthy in your world right now? You guys staying busy? Everything good? Lee, are you still photographing or have you moved on from that?

Lee Webb:
Nope. Doing mostly real estate video work now and stuff. I was a stay-at-home dad for about 11 years, recently divorced, so I’m having to hustle and try to get my feet back on the ground. I’m getting them underneath me and things are starting to work out OK. I’m here in southern Utah. That’s not the commercial photography capital of the world, but I am doing my very best. I think I’m doing with my market about as much as someone could.

David Read:
Very good. I appreciate you taking this time. That’s cool.

David Read:
Curtis, anything to update us on with you?

Curtis Short:
Just hanging out in Georgia. We’re in John’s Creek and we’re kind of in a holding pattern right now, but actually things are going fantastic. I have no complaints whatsoever. Things are good. My kids are great. They’re all in Africa right now, ’till the end of the month. They go for two months, for the summer every year.

David Read:
How old is Curtis Jr. now?

Curtis Short:
He’s 16.

David Read:
Oh my gosh!

Curtis Short:
And the twins are 13. And they’re all as tall as me. They’re all six foot tall. Everybody’s doing fantastic. No complaints. Now, Lee, you said southern Utah. I used to live in St. George, Hurricane, La Verkin area.

Lee Webb:
I’m in Cedar. I’m just north of there.

Curtis Short:
Seriously. So, when I lived there, I started up the Cedar City Clip and Save newspaper. It covered Cedar City all the way down to St. George, and I went to every business in between and started a Clip and Save newspaper. Back in the day it was coupons, Clip and Save.

David Read:
Coupons. OK.

Curtis Short:
It was a monthly newspaper advertisement, coupons, Clip and Save, and it was a mailer I did to everybody.

David Read:
Wow. All right.

Curtis Short:
And I did that in southern Utah. That was a long time ago. 25 years ago probably.

David Read:
Were you familiar with Stargate before joining Propworx?

Curtis Short:
Yeah. Of course.

David Read:
What’s your favorite episode? You don’t need to list the name, just describe it

Curtis Short:
No, I’ll tell you the truth. I remember watching the movie. Do you remember watching the movie? Not the show, but the movie, the first time.

David Read:
I saw the movie second, the show first, but I remember it very well.

Curtis Short:
So, when I saw the movie, I was 18, I think. 18 years old. It was awesome. Then when the show came out, seeing it in a show, and the fact that we could see it every day, I was so excited to watch every single episode. Because it opened up a whole new world. You can go into another world. Every time the gate opened up, and it has that whoosh, you’re like, “Whoo.” And I’m sucked into it every time.

David Read:
Oh my God, it looks… Who’s here? Damien, can you rotate?

Damien:
I can rotate. Yes, I can. Let me do the little buttons on the doohickeys.

David Read:
Whoa. Didn’t mean to cut you off, Curtis. How much time do you have, buddy?

Damien:
You got me for about 20 minutes.

David Read:
Sweet. Can you unlock the rotation on your phone?

Damien:
I did. It should be working now.

David Read:
There it is.

Damien:
That’s what it says.

David Read:
Awesome.

Damien:
Look at that. Technology.

David Read:
Oh my gosh. It is so good to have you here, man. How are you doing?

Damien:
Good. Sorry I’m late. Couldn’t avoid it though. I definitely wanted to be here, and Curtis, it’s good to see your face, brother.

Curtis Short:
Man, it’s great to see you, bro. Really good to see you.

Damien:
Good. We have to do an in-person get-together sometime. We gotta do a little reunion.

David Read:
I know.

Damien:
I think that’d be a good idea.

David Read:
Florida and Georgia are not that far apart.

Damien:
No, they’re not.

Curtis Short:
Wait, Dean is here. Dean is around in the south.

Damien:
Yeah.

Curtis Short:
South Carolina or something?

David Read:
I think so. Exactly. For sure.

David Read:
And then we’ve got Jared, he’s still out west but…

Curtis Short:
He’s a little more out west.

David Read:
He is. That’s it.

Damien:
Nobody cares about Jared, though. It’s OK.

David Read:
Damien…

Damien:
Yeah, buddy.

David Read:
What were you doing at Propworx? What was your responsibility there?

Damien:
I’m showing off my BDUs.

David Read:
Absolutely.

Damien:
What was my responsibility at Propworx? I think I did everything that could be possible. Everything from business development to setting up auctions, to writing descriptions, to setting up and running with the entire team all the live auctions, the weekly auctions, helping with photography, setting up the props, costumes, writing, speaking to the customers. Literally, I don’t think… There wasn’t anybody who did one thing at Propworx.

David Read:
That’s a good point.

Damien:
Everybody did a little bit of everything. Curtis may have done more than all of us together.

David Read:
He had definitely done all of it.

Curtis Short:
I don’t know about that.

Damien:
For sure. Curtis was the one who taught us how to pretty much do everything there, and he was the backbone. He was the one that we would go to and complain with the problem.

David Read:
“I’m having an issue with this thing.”

Curtis Short:
Try to keep it together. Try to keep it together. That was the goal.

Damien:
That was Curtis’ thing. I did a little bit of everything. Everything from… I walked in with Battlestar Galactica. We did Iron Man, Hulk. We did a little bit of Captain America, Star Trek.

David Read:
Kevin Smith

Damien:
… and then I did all the Kevin Smith.

Curtis Short:
Kevin Smith was great.

David Read:
That was so cool.

Damien:
And then to Stargate. We did 14 seasons of Stargate, plus movies and the seasons.

David Read:
We did 14 seasons. We had the license for SG-1 and–

Damien:
Atlantis.

David Read:
–Atlantis. We didn’t get to Universe, unfortunately. Someone else grabbed that one.

Damien:
But we walked the sets.

Curtis Short:
We did walk the sets, and those Universe sets were awesome, and I remember being really bummed out that we didn’t get it. That was a bummer.

David Read:
They had really gotten expert at their craft in terms of designing things for those last few years. And those Universe pieces are absolutely gorgeous. They’re right out of Jules Verne. And Lee, you were a Stargate fan before Propworx as well, right?

Lee Webb:
Absolutely.

Damien:
Wait, Lee’s here and nobody told me?

Lee Webb:
Hey, I’m right here, Damien, my brother. How are you? It’s been an awful long time.

Damien:
Good. God, they were holding you off on me, man.

Lee Webb:
You can’t see me over here? No?

Damien:
No, I can’t. I’m on my phone, so I didn’t see everybody in the chat, but guys, Lee was instrumental in the photography for Propworx. Like I said, I helped a little bit. Lee was a photographer. He set the standard for everything that we did. I learned something new every day I walked in there. He would bring in-

David Read:
There’s always something to learn.

Damien:
Absolutely. The tools that he brought in, the camera stands, you’ll have to tell me what the name of it is. But it was that one thing that went up about eight feet so we could get drop-down shots. What was that?

Lee Webb:
It was a Super Stallion monopod, and it weighed about 400 pounds. And its arm went out four feet long, and we could shoot with good long lenses so we didn’t have to distort our imagery, and that would help us to clean up our background super fast. If we didn’t shoot 150 items in a day, we weren’t justified in being there.

Damien:
It was literally an assembly line of setting up the set, especially when it was costume day. I think at the most we had…

Lee Webb:
Thursdays.

Damien:
Nightmares.

Lee Webb:
Good Lord, Jesus. Everybody wanted to not come in on Thursday costume day for Friday auctions. But that’s all right. But everybody would be working on ’em. It was so much fun, I would say. And everybody was on deck. I was trying to count how many people were on the photo staff at the biggest moment.

Damien:
I think I saw about six.

David Read:
When we were doing all the live auction catalogs, there were…

Damien:
I’d say five to 10.

David Read:
That’s when we brought in Natasha and when we brought in… He worked with you after. I’m so sorry. Nick.

Lee Webb:
Nick.

Damien:
Nick?

David Read:
Nick somebody.

Lee Webb:
Nick. Yep.

Damien:
Nick.

Lee Webb:
Nick somebody.

Lee Webb:
And then the girl with the hula hoop and…

David Read:
The girl with the hula hoop?

Curtis Short:
Aaron came and worked for a little bit. Remember that?

Damien:
Yeah.

Lee Webb:
Aaron was there before me. She didn’t really work too much on the photography. I remember she dove into Battlestar, but she wasn’t a Stargate person. She did some Iron Man. I think she was in on Iron Man a little bit.

Lee Webb:
But I was trying to count at one point. One, two, three, four, five… We’re counting you in there, David. And you had that sidekick of yours, David, that left a month early. I can’t remember his name. He was a little surly. Surly but fun.

Damien:
Flattop hair. What was his name?

David Read:
You could land an airplane on that thing. I’m trying to remember his name. Regardless, whatever.

Lee Webb:
No, Chris.

Curtis Short:
Chris.

Lee Webb:
Chris.

Curtis Short:
Chris. Yes, Chris.

David Read:
That’s Chris Taylor.

Lee Webb:
He knew his stuff.

Curtis Short:
That’s Chris Taylor.

Lee Webb:
But he was a little surly … and for being in love with the show, he didn’t seem all that enamored by being there. I was surrounded by all those props from Battlestar, which I love, and Star Trek, which I frickin’ love, and then Stargate, which I frickin’ love. And I was around all this stuff. And the fact that we had to work 11 and 12 hour days, I’d get there and open the place up and close the place down, and everybody would be leaving in the middle. And I was like, “Why do you guys wanna leave?” “We got all the coolest stuff in the world. It’s all right here.” As soon as most people leave, we’re gonna start screwing around. Come on.

David Read:
That’s it.

Damien:
Baltar’s bed is definitely a memory that I will never forget from Battlestar Galactica. But we thought you just hated your family, Lee. You never wanted to leave. We just…

Lee Webb:
They came. They would come. You guys would leave–

Damien:
I know.

Lee Webb:
— and it’d be over. I’d…

Damien:
I know. I’m teasing.

Lee Webb:
… I’d have the babies over there and everything like that.

Curtis Short:
You did.

Damien:
No, I remember. I’m just being silly.

Curtis Short:
Don’t forget about Kelly. We had Kelly?

Lee Webb:
Yes.

David Read:
Kelly Ann.

Damien:
Kelly Ann.

Curtis Short:
Kelly Ann. Man.

Damien:
The Propworx team was huge.

Curtis Short:
It was solid, too.

Lee Webb:
And before Curtis was Santino. Santino was a surly boy as well. Was that Santino?

Curtis Short:
Santino Faville.

Lee Webb:
He was a little bit–

Curtis Short:
Santino.

Lee Webb:
–he was a bit surly, but boy, he’s a character.

Curtis Short:
I love Santino.

David Read:
Damien, We’re not gonna have you…

Curtis Short:
I love Santino.

David Read:
… for too long. What were some of your favorite Stargate pieces that we sold?

Damien:
The gate. So, my favorite thing was Curtis, myself, and a couple others, we went up to Vancouver and we walked down the corridor of the Egyptian temple. And it wasn’t lit up, so it was creepy as hell. And we turned a corner, and you just step into this massive, massive room, and the gate was right in front of you. And I’ll never forget. And Curtis came in. He was like, “Holy shit.” I was like, “Yeah, right?”

David Read:
Was it the Atlantis gate or the SG-1 gate?

Curtis Short:
It was the Atlantis.

David Read:
On the Atlantis stage.

Curtis Short:
I’m pretty sure it was the Atlantis gate because it had the… It was so tall. It was two or three stories tall.

Damien:
We got to walk in and we got to see the open gears to how the thing spun.

David Read:
Man.

Damien:
It was absolutely fabulous. The costumes I will say were probably my second favorite after that. Everything from the Jaffa to the Jaffa staff that actually you click the button and the head popped open and closed.

David Read:
That’s true.

Damien:
But I won’t even pretend to know as much about Stargate as you do. So, what was amazing is every time I’d go over to the remote location, you would be as giddy as a schoolboy and run over and share some… And you’ve got most of the stuff that we loved up behind you.

David Read:
Almost all of it.

Damien:
Almost. Your collection is almost complete. “Look at this,” and you’d flip a switch and turn on. And I remember when you guys found the replicators.

David Read:
The box of replicators. Yes.

Curtis Short:
The tub.

Damien:
The tub.

David Read:
We really need to be careful about these things here. I remember… I just found my images. Let me switch this over here so you guys can see. I just found my images from my trip up there with you guys in December. And one of my first tasks was going through some of these stray props. And it went on and on. It was really an extraordinary week that the three of us spent pulling stuff apart.

Lee Webb:
I would’ve loved to have gone. I wasn’t invited, but I would’ve gone.

Curtis Short:
David, dude, I remember when you were there, ’cause that was the first time you’d been with us, I think.

David Read:
Yeah, for this.

Curtis Short:
You were like a kid in a candy store, I don’t know, Christmas Day. You were in heaven, in another world when you were there.

David Read:
It was ridiculous.

Curtis Short:
‘Cause you are the true fan, David, it was something to appreciate, seeing a fan like you and just how enamored you were with everything. It was really cool to see.

Damien:
I remember when we went into that one costume room that had three stories of racks for costumes, and we were pulling everything down to bring it out of there.

David Read:
Man.

Damien:
It was non-stop. Something would get unzipped, and Dave would be like, “Oh, my God. Oh, this is from Episode 23 of Season Four. This is worn by–”

David Read:
Geez.

Damien:
He was knocking out where these things were coming from. And I was like, “All right, he went. He knows everything. I’m gonna sit in the corner.”

David Read:
I wasn’t guaranteed work past that particular time that we were all up there.

Damien:
No, we knew. We knew you weren’t going anywhere.

Curtis Short:
We knew.

David Read:
But I didn’t know what the situation was at the company or anything beyond that because I didn’t know what kind of infrastructure Alec had. I pitched myself to ’cause Alec had reached out to Darren at GateWorld. And so I reached out to Alec and basically cajoled him. And I think I may have even paid for my own flight. He may have reimbursed… I think he reimbursed me afterwards. But it was like, “I have to be a part of this.” And then I roomed with you, Damian as of the second night, I think. You were a day late. You were working on something else back in LA.

Damien:
Yep. Oh, man. It was… I’ll have to say, we didn’t know it at the time, but it was probably one of the coolest moments of our professional lives to work on these. I look back at those days. As hard as they were, as ridiculous… I would be at the office some nights running auctions until 2:00 in the morning. And then we’d be back there bright and early. I don’t know how many times half of you slept there because we had such early mornings. But we worked so hard. But we did it because we loved the shows. We loved the movies. We had a passion. And it showed with everything that we did. And the communication with the fans. There were problems with shipping, but our shipping was top-notch. And I think the only thing that people ever had a problem with was things like, “When are you gonna ship it? ‘Cause I need it now.” This level of expectation of, “OK, you have my money. I want it tomorrow.” And we’re like, “We’re still in Vancouver, man.” Or, “We’re still up at the science museum up in, what was it? Oregon or Washington?”

Curtis Short:
In Seattle.

David Read:
Washington. In Seattle.

Damien:
Seattle, Washington. People are like, “I want it now. Box up Thor and send Thor to me tomorrow.” And we’re like, “Well, we gotta take him home. We gotta pack his stuff up at the warehouse.”

David Read:
Curtis, you were really good about actually getting some of those, especially a lot of the smaller stuff, and any of the bigger stuff that we could that was at the museum in Seattle, transferred over to people there, weren’t you?

Curtis Short:
If I could avoid… ‘Cause listen, we picked that stuff in Vancouver, took it down to LA, packed it up again, took it up to Seattle. So if I don’t have to take it back to LA and then ship it, man, that’s way better for us and everybody. So I did everything I could to get it out the door from Seattle, the big stuff, if I could. It’s way easier. But that was the shipping part, and managing that whole aspect of getting the stuff to the fans, that was an ordeal. But it was fun. It was fun. It was a task.

Damien:
Speaking of shipping, I drove one of the trucks back across the border, the Canadian border, back to the States.

David Read:
One of the semis? You drove an 18-wheeler?

Damien:
No, no, no. We had a huge U-Haul that we put a bunch of stuff in. We drove it back down. And I got pulled over by border patrol ’cause they wanted to search the truck because they looked at the manifest and they saw pistols and rifles. And then all these other things. And they’re like, “You gotta go over.” So I was in holding for about three hours. And they’re like, “You need to open this up,” when they finally got to me. And I’m like, “Guys, it’s all movie props. Nothing’s real.” And they’re like, “We see bullets on this.” We’re like, “Ugh, OK.”

David Read:
So, the manifest is an Excel that’s sent in advance of the truck.

Damien:
And I had the paper copy of it too. As soon as I roll up to the gate, the border guys look at each other, their eyes open up, and they’re like, “Can we peek? Can we see some?” So I pulled a bunch of boxes out, and they’re like, “You can go, but can we keep looking at these for a little while?” So we stayed for an extra hour, showing a bunch of really cool stuff. And they’re like, “When’s the auction?” So they signed up to be a part of it too. There’s more to that story. But it was amazing to find fans everywhere we went. I’ll even expand on that. When we went to San Diego Comic-Con, we were invited to the Stargate Universe cast and crew party up on that rooftop. And we got to meet all the cast members, and they had this giant Stargate made out of chocolate. I remember that. That was amazing. And what I loved was how all the actors loved the series. They were so excited to be a part of it. David Blue, I got to work with him afterwards, and he was telling me it was one of his favorite things that he got to do.

David Read:
He’s a good guy.

Damien:
It was amazing to be around people who loved what they were doing. And all the prop makers as well back up in Vancouver. They were so proud, and they were so protective of everything that they made. They didn’t wanna let a lot of the stuff go because they were the caretakers and creators of these beautiful pieces. And we got to hold them and do things that so many fans will never be able to do. Like I said, this is something that… they would sell their grandmother to be a part of. And with that, I see you guys reminiscing in your heads right now over all these moments that we had, and I love that we…

David Read:
Actually, I got super glue on my desk, but go ahead.

Damien:
We have that shared experience. And for those people who did get to go to the live auctions, I remember you were at a restaurant with everybody doing live bidding as well that I didn’t get a chance to go to.

David Read:
Live auction two. You guys were back at the office, but that one was a special event. Damian, you’ve worked in Hollywood. How often do fans get an opportunity to buy something from a show? Isn’t it all mostly destroyed by and large?

Damien:
It was.

David Read:
Thrown in the dumpster when it’s over? Wasn’t this a rare opportunity?

Damien:
Yeah, it was. Afterwards, Universal hired me to do one of the late-night shows. Was it The Jimmy Kimmel Show? I don’t remember, but I got to do a late-night show, and I got to do House afterwards, and that was one of the last auctions that I knew about, until a prop store took over. But no one really did or does take apart series anymore and sell them to fans, and I thought that was such a waste. Because with Battlestar Galactica, I think we brought in $4 or $6 million, which we got a chunk of, I think it was 30%, which still wasn’t enough for how much work that we did. And then with Stargate, I don’t remember the numbers on that. I wasn’t privy to that information, but the amount of money that rolled back into the studio was staggering, and it was…

David Read:
But still, only 2%, in some cases, of the cost of some of these pieces that were made. But the point is that the fans got a chance to have something that was gonna go in the garbage. Recovering something is not nothing.

Damien:
No. No.

Lee Webb:
I wanna share my thoughts on that whole thing too.

David Read:
Please.

Lee Webb:
What I think is extraordinary is, me being a TOS fan and having… The only real props from TOS that exist were those that were stolen. The rest were damaged or thrown away, and we got to authenticate a bunch of them, and at the end, they could never say whether they were real or not. But what I loved about Battlestar and the fans of Battlestar is that everything went out with the COA, and we know where every single prop is. And none of those things got lost.

David Read:
At least where it was last.

Lee Webb:
Where it was last, and they’re in the hands of fans, and they’re able to be brought back together. I even remember something about Stargate, I think, that a Stargate was sold and then loaned back to Stargate for one of the movies.

David Read:
One of the dialed home devices.

Lee Webb:
They brought it back in. That couldn’t have happened otherwise. If you were doing kind of a flashback on TOS and you could use the original captain’s chair, how could you even put a real dollar amount on that? And maybe in 20 more years or 30 more years when they come back with the flashback of Stargate and we can gather up dozens Zat’nik’tel, all the different things that were from those shows, and actually use the ones that were in there or have them available to make new molds on or something like that, they’re in the best storage possible. It’s not like they’re in boxes like a Millennium Falcon sitting in the back of George Lucas’ warehouse. People have them. Somebody has the bridge of Battlestar Galactica. Someone has that. Someone has a Viper in their front yard that was part of Lord of the Rings.

Damien:
Front yard.

Lee Webb:
Somebody has that stuff. People who love them spent quite a bit of money. They’re not gonna put them in the bathroom and have them fall apart. They’re not. They’re great. And there’s history on them, and they’re not lost. And I think that is the best thing. I remember one of the last days I was at Propworx, and I heard there was some argument on who owned the images, how are they gonna be used, and I’m like, “Yeah, they’re mine, and I’m gonna upload them–

David Read:
You took them.

Lee Webb:
— for use on the internet.” And I uploaded them, and I gave them to the universe. And I’m like, “Yeah,” ’cause that’s who they belong to. They belong to the universe.

Damien:
The Stargate universe.

Lee Webb:
They do. They belong to the intellect that surrounds the world. That’s where they belong. I didn’t want it to get lost in a studio, never to be seen again. That was not what I thought was a good idea. Battlestar got uploaded. Everything got uploaded anywhere I could figure out to upload it to. And…

David Read:
It’s one of the things that I’m working on.

Lee Webb:
… And I kept them too.

David Read:
That’s the thing, and thanks to you, I’ve got a clean set. It’s one of the things that I guess I can reveal here, that I got a set from you. I’ve been working on this documentary for years and years now. Whenever we finally do publish it, I will provide access to a lot of the photography from the entire project. Maybe not necessarily full resolution, but fans will finally get an opportunity to go through the beautiful photography that you made, Lee, and just dive into the majesty of some of these pieces in a resolution that you’ve not had really a chance to view before. So it’s… The work was so spectacular, and I can’t thank you enough.

Damien:
And not to mention the blueprints that we had access to.

Curtis Short:
The big cases of blue… I forgot that… I haven’t even thought about those in 16 years.

Damien:
Wow.

Lee Webb:
We had five huge–

David Read:
Crates.

Lee Webb:
— four by six rolling crates. They were massive. Those were amazing. Those were amazing.

Curtis Short:
And they just got sent out for scans. They were just sent out. We didn’t even photograph those things.

David Read:
There was no need to. And then a couple we did that I wanted to list sooner. The scanning process, that was a whole other thing. So cool.

Damien:
But I know Lee photographed a lot of the concept art. That’s one of the reasons why we had that huge overhead photography crane. We got to, in person, hold these beautiful things. And people who bought these blueprints… we have the high res… we could rebuild the sets from what we have on those hard drives.

David Read:
Some of it, sure.

Damien:
Absolutely amazing. And the repository. Depository? No. It’s not a depository. But we have this… repository of all of this data that I know someday the studio’s gonna finally pick up the franchise again, and they’re probably gonna come to us, David.

David Read:
You think so?

Damien:
They better.

David Read:
I think what you’re gonna see next is blank slate, my friend. But it’s a romantic idea. ‘Cause they just canceled the show that they were developing from the original people. That was a month and two weeks ago.

Damien:
But executives come and go. People who have a passion…

David Read:
I know. That is certainly true.

Damien:
… for different sci-fis.

David Read:
That’s true.

Damien:
It could be next year to five years down the road we’re gonna see something. The fandom is right here alone with what you’ve created with the gate. It’s gonna happen. And if it doesn’t, they’re foolish. They’re absolutely foolish.

David Read:
It’s a question of when.

Lee Webb:
We need a question answered. We need a question answered too. We need to know whether Eli killed himself to save everybody. Or did he get one of the life support systems working. And I am fucking bummed if I don’t find out about that one of these days.

David Read:
All right. All right.

Lee Webb:
Because he had two choices. He had to kill himself to save everybody, or he had to get a system working. And there was no system gonna get working. And then he put on his headphones, and he played Mumford & Sons. That was absolutely a chilly moment. I don’t know if you guys got the same chills. But you…

David Read:
Yeah.

Lee Webb:
… could see his wheels turning. Do I gas myself? Do I shoot myself?

David Read:
OK. Lee, we are live.

Lee Webb:
Do I shoot myself out an airlock?

David Read:
We are live right now on YouTube.

Lee Webb:
OK. David Blue, if you know the answer, we need to know it.

David Read:
So, his answer is that he repaired the pod. That’s David’s answer because I’ve asked him.

Damien:
I was gonna say, when you’re done, David Blue did say that, as far as he’s concerned, he fixed it, and he made it. So that’s what they were hoping for if they’re able to figure out another season and go from there.

David Read:
Folks, we are live with the team from Propworx who did the last Stargate auctions. The Stargate itself is gonna be coming up fairly soon here on the Heritage Auctions website. We’re currently at 89468, and it’s gonna be 490. So, pretty soon here. If you have any questions for us about specific items that we sold or anything else, you can go ahead and ask us. I do have one. Aaron Stark Linux, “Curtis, do you know what happened to Ronan’s gun after production? Did Jason keep it?”

Curtis Short:
No.

Damien:
We got it, didn’t we?

Curtis Short:
We got it.

David Read:
It must’ve been a private sale.

Curtis Short:
I had it. I held it. It’s the most favorite prop of all time for me.

David Read:
It was a beautiful piece.

Curtis Short:
You can tell I’m so excited about talking about it.

David Read:
There was only one metal hero, and we didn’t sell.
Curtis Short:
There’s only one hero.

David Read:
We didn’t publicly list it. I think that was a private sale.

Curtis Short:
But we did have it.

David Read:
Very good.

Damien:
How many private sales were there?

David Read:
The opening/closing staff weapon that was created near the end of the series was a private sale with someone who later became a friend. I think there were a couple more. I’m not entirely sure. What I found out after, though, was that the staff weapon never appeared on screen. If my contact from the props department is correct, it was designed as a prototype near the end of the franchise and never used on screen. And we had no way of knowing that because they were identical. But it works. It opens and closes.

Damien:
Oh my God. There wasn’t a person in the building who didn’t grab that thing and get to fire that up real quick.

David Read:
Man. I still hear the servos. No, there was some amazing stuff. So, Lee, what was some of your favorite pieces?

Lee Webb:
Gosh. Let us see. From Stargate, I loved all of the little nuances of the uniforms and the gear and how they would sand the pieces down and things like that. Now, the big ensembles and things like that, they were extraordinary. But I loved how they spent the time on every little tiny piece that would go on. From flak jackets and vests and pictures in the background and things that were inside wallets. Those are the things I really, really appreciate that were in the backstories. Those are the things I appreciated too about the Battlestar Galactica sets is we opened up a door, there was stuff inside of it. As opposed to, let us say, Iron Man, that if you moved three degrees to one side, everything was hollow behind it. They only built it for the angle of the shot, and that was it. If they wanted to mess it up, they couldn’t. But Battlestar had everything in there, even writing in the books that had the cutoff corners. But there was writing in them. These weren’t just plain things. They used real books and then recovered them. I would say in Stargate, those kind of things, obviously everybody loves Zat’nik’tel. They’re super fun. They’re super fun to play with. All of those things. And then you were asking earlier, when did you love Stargate show the most, or what episode? And I think it was, for me, when Teal’c wasn’t turned yet, and when they would have to shoot the Jaffa like 3,000 times to put one down. By the end of the show, it was one-shot wonders. But at the beginning of the show, it was seven guys shooting at one guy for a half an hour before he’d drop. And that was pretty extreme.

David Read:
The Kull warriors, for sure. Yes. Absolutely. The Jaffa. There’s just so much history here. We photographed so much stuff. It’s mind-blowing to me how… The 18 months just went… They were like a blur as far as I was concerned. Damian, any other memories that you wanna share with us before you have to get underway? I’m trying to be cognizant of your time.

Damien:
No, I’m fine. You’ve got me. I’m set. Now that I know Lee’s here, I can stay. How long have we got? You’ve got me for another 15. Other favorite moments, man, it was the costumes. It was the artwork. There’s too much to say other than what I said being the Stargate. And I remember I was there when they started cutting the Stargate into slices.

David Read:
Oh no. That’s right.

Damien:
Curtis was there too. And the size of the circular saw that they were using, I’m pretty sure they used the jaws of life.

Curtis Short:
Yes. It was really hard to watch. But when they capped ’em, it ended up being really great how they did it. That way we could get a great piece, a great headboard for someone’s bed.

Damien:
I remember. It went into somebody’s bedroom. And if anybody’s watching who has picked up things, we’ve asked them, “Send us the pictures of where you’re displaying your pieces.”

David Read:
Let’s see it.

Damien:
The patches, ’cause I know we sold patches individually and as sets. I wanna see the display of how people are displaying their beloved pieces. I’ve got a raw casting of one of the snake pistols that’s sitting in a box waiting for me to finish. I’ve had it for that long. It’s mixed in with the replicator pieces that I have and the patches that I was able to acquire. I just want… I personally wanna see where people are displaying their stuff, and I think that would be a great…

David Read:
If there’s anyone in the live chat who has anything, let us know.

Damien:
And I think that’d be a great addition to your documentary as well, to show where these pieces ended up and how people still love them.

David Read:
That’s not a bad idea at all.

Lee Webb:
That’s a great idea.

Damien:
Even from the secondary market, because I’ve seen a lot of pieces that were sold. I even got a handle on one of the recastings of the Anubis masks. No, it was a snake. I got that.

David Read:
The serpent’s helmets.

Damien:
The serpent’s helmet. I even ended up unfortunately having to sell that to someone. They finished it and put it up on display. I’ll see if I can get them to send some pictures. Stunning, stunning pieces that… It makes me happy with all the hard work that production put into it and all the love and care that we did to display everything. Like what you’re doing behind you, David. These pieces are so loved. It’s an honor to know that it’s still going on.

David Read:
You know what the frustrating thing is? Watching them deteriorate, especially downstairs, my wraith mask–

Damien:
Thor.

David Read:
–on my mannequin.

Damien:
Thor.

David Read:
Thor. Thor is the worst.

Lee Webb:
Thor, such a heartbreak. And we talked about it.

David Read:
We’re talking about one of the originals from Season Three.

Lee Webb:
If we would’ve left him in the case and never opened it, he’d probably be fine.

David Read:
But that’s the thing, oxygen corrodes.

Damien:
It was tacky when we got to it, so we had to wear gloves just to get him, and even that, with the vinyl gloves that we were wearing with them. The foam rubber castings, they made them for a short term. Had they known that they were gonna be loved and cared for as much as they have been, I’m sure they would’ve used a different material. But it was fast, it was quick, and they had to turn these things out.

David Read:
That’s it. They had to make it work. Curtis, did you pick up anything?

Curtis Short:
I did. I ended up with…

Damien:
Ronon’s gun.

David Read:
He got Ronon’s gun.

Damien:
Seriously.

David Read:
Ronon, you got one of them. They’re one of the models.

Curtis Short:
But one thing I remember was when you walk East on Atlantis, they had a map of Atlantis. It was a wall piece. It was a shadow box, and it lit up from behind. I had that in my garage for the longest time.

David Read:
That’s right. At the top of the staircase.

Curtis Short:
That’s right.

David Read:
The “you are here” map.

Curtis Short:
That was there. But a couple things I was thinking about was all the costumes. The quality for the wardrobe was amazing, and I thought Val, who was in charge of that whole thing…

David Read:
Halvorson. She’s brilliant

Curtis Short:
… wonderful. She was awesome, and it was really so much fun, being with her and her explaining and talking about everybody, and how the costumes work and fitting and the whole process, ’cause she had so much knowledge, and she’s an expert.

David Read:
I keep in touch with her. She’s wonderful and she really loved–

Curtis Short:
She did

David Read:
–her work. She loved that show.

Curtis Short:
And she was a sweetheart. I always remember her. I remember Val. She stands out to me. The other thing I remember is, as far as the fans go, worldwide. So, we see fans online and stuff like that, but I got to ship all these things worldwide.

David Read:
How many countries did we get up to, 30 or 40?

Curtis Short:
Yeah, maybe 42 or 43, I think.

David Read:
It was high.

Curtis Short:
I’d have to look. But some of the things and places I shipped were quite incredible. I shipped to Saudi Arabia. Shipped to Kuwait. Shipped to deep Russia. Africa. I mean, all over the world. And Damian, you’re talking about bringing the guns, the props across the border. I had to figure out how to ship that stuff overseas. Missiles and drones and weapons and how to figure out how to ship that and get it into customs … and getting into countries … was interesting. But the fan base worldwide is awesome. Australia, and what about all our good friends in France? You had Guillaume, and–

David Read:
Oh my gosh, the French audience…

Curtis Short:
–all the crew over there. Damian, you and I went out there and we saw them in Germany.

Damien:
We went to Germany. What was that called?

Curtis Short:
It was with Dirk, and what was the name of that? It was the biggest convention I think out there. It was in Bonn.

Damien:
I’m drawing a blank.

Curtis Short:
Man, that was so much fun.

Damien:
We had a blast. We had so much fun. To piggyback on your mentioning of all the fans around the world, and bring it so much closer to home, guys, his mother was a huge fan.

David Read:
Rosie.

Damien:
Curtis’s mom.

David Read:
Love Rosie.

Damien:
Curtis’s mom.

David Read:
Love you, Rosie.

Damien:
She showed up and she was like, “Oh my God, that was on episode this, that was on episode that.”

Curtis Short:
Oh, God.

Damien:
So, seeing Curtis’ mom, her eyes widen and fangirl over everything that was there, I love seeing it. I know how proud Curtis was of her.

Curtis Short:
I just talked to her this morning and she still says to this day that was the most wonderful experience she’s ever had in her life. She’s like, “I got every single fan beat, ’cause no other fan could have done what I did…

David Read:
I know, Rosie.

Curtis Short:
… I threw him the best.

Curtis Short:
She loves her Samantha Carter BDUs, her Samantha Carter tags. She has that stuff displayed in the house. She is a super-duper fan.

Damien:
David expects photos of those now.

Curtis Short:
All right.

Damien:
David expects them.

David Read:
I’ve actually displayed a photo of Rosie just a moment ago holding one of the chevron crystals.

Curtis Short:
And she has Daniel’s book.

David Read:
She got that. OK.

Curtis Short:
She has that. She has some really cool stuff, some stuff that, Not Val, but Mark gave her some crystals and stuff.

David Read:
Mark Davidson, set decorator.

Curtis Short:
Mark Davidson.

David Read:
He handed her a few pieces

Curtis Short:
Mark met my mom and then they walked around. But they had a good time together. Mark gave her some stuff, and it was pretty cool.

David Read:
That was the extraordinary thing about being up there, not just pulling the sets apart and archiving stuff, putting things in boxes, but getting to spend time with Mark and Robert Davidson and his team, and Val Halvorson and all of these people who made the process what it was over the years. To have them kind of close the book on it with us, go out to dinner every night, share stories, that was a great experience.

Curtis Short:
It was. And then John Lenic. Don’t forget about John Lenic.

David Read:
God, John, I’m so sorry.

Curtis Short:
John was absolutely fantastic.

David Read:
He’s brilliant.

Curtis Short:
Without him, they couldn’t have done anything. He was great.

David Read:
No.

Curtis Short:
But the whole crew of Stargate, one big family. And I think the fans feel like it’s one big family as well. But it’s definitely like that with the crew. When we’re up there, everybody is one big family. It was great.

David Read:
That’s it.

Damien:
I’m friends with some of the extras who were on the show. They still to this day say it was one of the best experiences that they had.

David Read:
Across the board. I routinely hear that doing Dial the Gate. Lee, what was some of the more difficult pieces to photograph?

Lee Webb:
I’d say monotonous…

David Read:
I haven’t been able to show all of them with you guys here, but I’m going through a reel for everyone to see.

Lee Webb:
I’m a commercial photographer. It was pretty easy. We do those things. But I’ll talk about monotonous things: chair backs.

David Read:
Yes.

Lee Webb:
There must have been 500,000 chair backs. They would get mind-numbing. But we wanted them, and even if we weren’t gonna keep them, we wanted a picture of them. Even some things that we knew weren’t gonna make the auction, we still wanted to have an archive of those things.

David Read:
We were archiving this thing ’cause we all had aspirations of, “OK, once this is done, we’re gonna go off with this and get a license from MGM to do this.” And we had plans for a couple of things. We wanted to pursue the art book idea with James Robbins and release some of this stuff, but it didn’t happen. So, at the very least, we managed to get a lot of it photographed and archived before it all went to the four corners of the earth.

Lee Webb:
I’ll even share a little story too about Battlestar. The very first little packet of money that we sold on an eBay auction, it went for some astronomical number.

David Read:
The cubits.

Lee Webb:
And I remember Curtis and I looking, and we had an entire trash can full of it. And we were like, “Oh my gosh.”

Damien:
We’re rich.

Lee Webb:
It was a 60-gallon trash can full of money. We’re like, “The first one sold for 500 bucks for nothing. For a little bit.” And I was all, “Oh, boy.” And then you almost feel bad, ’cause you’re like, “We’re gonna inundate that market, and these things are gonna sell for 38 cents a piece by the time we get done.”

David Read:
Exactly. Saturated in the market.

Lee Webb:
And we didn’t tell people that we had buckets of these. If someone would’ve walked into that, I don’t remember, Curtis, was it an 80,000-square-foot warehouse? How big was that warehouse?

Damien:
At the airport? No, it was 40… I don’t think it was 80.

David Read:
We had two of them. I’m pretty sure that the big one was 100,000. Wasn’t it?

Lee Webb:
I thought so too.

David Read:
Or was it only 100,000?

Lee Webb:
I remember 100,000 number.

Curtis Short:
I think you’re absolutely right.

Lee Webb:
But it was 125 feet of costumes.

David Read:
It was ridiculously enormous.

Lee Webb:
Two high, four wide … that you built out of those aluminum knuckles and things like that.

Curtis Short:
I remember building that. I remember building those racks. I remember we drilled those in there. Two high, four wide.

David Read:
With Brent.

Curtis Short:
It was almost 200 feet, actually

Lee Webb:
That place was gigantic. That was so much clothes. And you guys were wondering, “Hey, what props did you ever take home?” I actually had a whole living room set from Stargate of all the couches and chairs.

David Read:
We couldn’t move them.

Lee Webb:
No one cared. They were going in the trash. And all they were was regular IKEA chairs with these stretchy things over them, and they would change the stretchy things over them for different colors. They weren’t special, except I had them for years in my studio.

David Read:
I need to clarify.

Lee Webb:
That’s what people sat on.

David Read:
Because people are like, “What, why did you get into the…” We knew at a certain point when we were collecting a lot of this stuff up in Vancouver, what would sell and what wouldn’t. Because you have to understand… for everyone who’s listening who’s like, “Why did you just lift those?” The manufactured furniture, especially, most of this was for Atlantis ’cause SGC didn’t really have anything that you had to manufacture. You could sell a piece for maybe $200, maybe $150. But crating it and freighting it and to send it to someone, for one normal piece, would have been $1,200 bucks. Wouldn’t it have been, Curtis?

Curtis Short:
Yeah, for the big captain’s chairs. Like $300, $400 to crate it up and ship it at the minimum. But why would somebody do that when it’s just a non-recognizable item.

David Read:
The only reason that we brought a lot of those cream pieces, light gray, was for padding inside of the truck. A lot of those, too, we brought back with us so that we could protect some of the larger pieces. And also we had furniture while we were in the warehouse working. We were all sitting in the furniture that was used on the sets.

Lee Webb:
But the studio would tell us no…

David Read:
It would have made no money selling it.

Lee Webb:
… the studio told us no, too. They’re like, “No, no, we don’t want those things on the auction. We’d get rid of them, donate them, do something with them. We don’t want them.” And they gave us a list of stuff to dump. They’re like, “Here, this is what we’re gonna do.” And we really did have to work within the confines of what the studio wanted. ‘Cause all said and done, they were writing a pretty fat check.

Damien:
It was the same thing with the background actors’ costumes. We sold all the hero stuff. But the things that were peasants in the background or stuff that no one ever would have wanted, they were like, “Don’t bother, ’cause you’re gonna get nothing for it.”

David Read:
I’ve just shown Sheppard’s wristband. Sorry to interrupt you, Damian. On the screen here. You remember this? So our first week we had a listing, we had 50 pieces a week, or 75, I can’t remember. And the first one that went up, he had these Nike wristbands that were always inverted so you didn’t see the swoosh. And the first one went up, and the policy was to not say that this is one of however many. Whoever sold Universe, they had that policy where they said in the listing, “This is one of X, Y, or Z,” or, “This is one of many.” We did not have that. I remember the number. Do you guys recall approximately–

Curtis Short:
Was it $1,000?

David Read:
–how much?

Curtis Short:
$1,100 or something? $1,000, $1,100? $2,000.

David Read:
$2000 Dollars.

Curtis Short:
The things people paid for certain–

David Read:
I know…

Curtis Short:
–costume items worn by certain stars–

David Read:
I felt so bad for this person because–

Curtis Short:
–was incredible.

David Read:
Week 55, we’re still selling them. But they’re going at that point for $40. There was only so much that you could do.

Damien:
I remember the–

David Read:
Watching things churn.

Damien:
–I remember you coming into the office one day, and you were like, “I feel so bad. I just got off the phone with somebody who’s so pissed that they spent an insane amount of money on those wristbands,” when we were in week eight or nine, and the price just dropped.

David Read:
Did I speak to someone over the phone?

Damien:
Yeah.

Curtis Short:
I remember that, too.

David Read:
Wow, I forgot.

Damien:
We were handing you antacids because you were so broken up about it. And again, I’ll even say this– I’ll even say it to everybody– to credit all of us, we really cared about what we were selling, and we really cared about the fans, and we felt so–

David Read:
It was meticulous.

Curtis Short:
I think at that time, though, Damian, that’s when we actually… ‘Cause that’s eight weeks into it, right? Eight or nine weeks into it out of 52 weeks, right? So we were learning it. And I think that’s when we learned that, “Hey, yo, yo, we really need to see what we put out in the market.” And then we don’t flood it. And then we started to really–

David Read:
That’s right.

Curtis Short:
–tighten the ship up on what we put out, because of that.

David Read:
There were certain things that you couldn’t move on a regular basis. It was probably your genius, Curtis, to create a storefront. For a lot of the repetitive pieces, like the original puddle jumper, DHD dashboard buttons from Season One, we just put them up in individual lots and sold them for a flat rate. The storefront was doing really good for a while there.

Curtis Short:
Because you’re selling stuff for anything under $100, throw it up on the storefront, because it doesn’t take any effort. You just put it up there. And how many presidential documents have been signed by the
the president. How many have been signed?

David Read:
Mission documents from SGC. It kept on going and going. It was wild. There’s only so–

Curtis Short:
It’s so cool.

David Read:
–much you can move so fast. That’s right.

Curtis Short:
Where’s the auction at? How are we doing?

Lee Webb:
Looks like we’re about 10 behind. It looks like there’s 10 more things before the gate comes up.

David Read:
I’m really excited about it. I’m interested to see what it’s gonna go for. Let me have a look here and see where we’re at. So, it’s still at $52,500.

Damien:
That’s what I saw it at.

David Read:
Let me bring this up here. This is the Stargate live auction one catalog. I checked online, and they are still being sold. I have a link in the description below for… I think the auction two catalogs are gone… but our boss still has a number of these available, and the link is in the description below for his website. But this is the listing for the Stargate that’s gonna be available here in a minute. Excuse me. It was lot number 51. We put an estimated sell price of between $80 and $100,000 on these. I’m pretty sure, Curtis, a lot of that was my responsibility to say how much–

Curtis Short:
You know what?

David Read:
–I thought that this would go for.

Curtis Short:
It was. You know what? I’m gonna go back. I think I have my catalog from the auction. I think I have handwritten notes in it.

Damien:
You wrote me.

Curtis Short:
Let me go look real quick. I’ll be back.

David Read:
Grab it.

Damien:
So much care went into those that you were making with Damaris.

David Read:
Damaris was brilliant. My gosh. Before we had Zoom, I think it was just Skype that we were using, and we built these catalogs from the ground up. The amount of time that we spent, the production photography that’s in these. All of your work, Lee, is just beautiful. The book is the quality of a textbook. And it’s a great piece to own.

Damien:
To this day, I still don’t think Lee gets the credit that he rightfully deserves for all the work…

David Read:
Not near enough.

Damien:
Like I said, I learned so much from him. He would take a picture of something, then take another photo of it, and then another photo, and then merge those three to four together so everything was in focus. So, everything was so beautiful, so crisp.

David Read:
I’ll show you one of those details. Go ahead and finish your thought and then I’ll come back to that specific point.

Damien:
No, that’s it. Specifically, Lee, I still hands down applaud you for all the work that you did on these.

Lee Webb:
Those helmets. I was looking… They’re amazing.

David Read:
This edge here that’s on these, there was an officially licensed Stargate mirror that came out. I think we either already had one or we got our hands on one. And Lee, you took it under a microscope or something and photographed and then adjusted, and photographed and adjusted, and photographed so that you could line up all of the sections of that mirror when it was centered directly under the target of your camera. And then you used a composite to put them all together so that we could have the high resolution that we needed for these. And I thought that is nuts. That is crazy. What a cool idea.

Damien:
With that, I know Curtis has the book he wants to share. My battery’s about to die and I have to go.

Curtis Short:
I saw this.

David Read:
No.

Curtis Short:
Damian.

Lee Webb:
Damian.

Damien:
I apologize, but I have a place I have to be and I gotta take care of my dog and…

Curtis Short:
Love you, brother.

Lee Webb:
Aah.

Damien:
I love you guys too.

David Read:
Love you, brother.

Curtis Short:
Yo, love ya.

Damien:
We’re gonna do this off air. We’re gonna reminisce some more for sure. But Lee, it was an honor seeing you again. Curtis, I love you to pieces, man.

Curtis Short:
It’s good to see you, Damian.

Damien:
David, thank you for doing this. The fans–

David Read:
Love you, brother.

Damien:
–don’t understand-

David Read:
They’re there…

Lee Webb:
Hey, did anybody reach out to Steve?

Curtis Short:
Steve Frosnick.

Damien:
Frosnick.

Curtis Short:
Did Steve even work on Stargate?

David Read:
I don’t know who that is.

Lee Webb:
I would think so, but-

Curtis Short:
No, he was just-

David Read:
Dean was with us, but Dean’s busy and Jared’s busy too. The three men who are on the screen with me are my, I consider family, my brothers. I can count on any of you for anything, and I have never taken that for granted. I am so thankful that you guys are in my life. And to this day I love you, brother. Thank you for coming on.

Damien:
PTSD and all.

David Read:
Hey. We were in the trenches.

Damien:
Curtis knows. And you guys can talk about it after I leave, but when I said we had a problem, we would all let out and have our conversations, and it was the best. You know what’s funny? I’m actually looking around my room and I still have some of the plastic tubs that the props came in that I still…

David Read:
Me too. Absolutely I do. All my stuff is in those plastic tubs.

David Read:
Where’s he going?

Curtis Short:
Look at this.

David Read:
In my whole warehouse.

Curtis Short:
Look at this tub right here.

David Read:
Exactly. Right there. There was some stuff…

Lee Webb:
Everything in my warehouse is in those plastic tubs. I even have rolling racks from Battlestar that I still have stuff on.

Damien:
Absolutely. So, with that, guys, I love you all.

Curtis Short:
Peace out. Love you

Damien:
You have no idea how much work that David put into this, and thank you all for doing what you did. And like you said, we’re family now, and this is never gonna change. So, David, whatever you need, Curtis, Lee, I’m here for you. I love you guys.

David Read:
Thanks for showing up, Damian.

Damien:
Anytime.

David Read:
Thanks.
Damien:
I’ll do this anytime with you guys.

David Read:
We’ll have more. All righty. That was wild. Where are we at now with this thing? Let me see here.

Lee Webb:
We’re five away.

David Read:
Five away? My goodness.

Lee Webb:
Yes.

David Read:
All right.

Curtis Short:
I found those catalogs, but my Stargate catalogs, they don’t have writing. It’s in my Kevin Smith and my Battlestar, my Star Trek. I have all the catalogs sitting right here. It’s like, “Can’t believe I saved all these.” Of course I did.

David Read:
No, there’s some… I have a set somewhere where I wrote all the final realized prices down, and I’ve got them listed. They’re actually on LiveAuctioneers. A lot of my PDF files…

Lee Webb:
There’s a cleaner.

David Read:
Whoa, you go take care of that. Look at that. Look at that, look at that.

Curtis Short:
I know. It’s beautiful.

David Read:
Zero point modules. It’s gorgeous. A lot of my Excel files that had a lot of those realized numbers are corrupted. They won’t open anymore, and it’s such a shame.

Curtis Short:
I did have a spreadsheet of every item sold, price, who it sold to. Da-da-da. That stuff got lost unfortunately. Battlestar, those archives, I know they’re stored really good, but I know we didn’t do that so much with Stargate, offsite, totally separate from everything so that they’re always preserved. But the amount of photos I’ve lost… The greatest time was being on set, going out there and breaking the set down, and walking through with the crew, and we’d be like, “Yeah, we want this. We’ll take that.” We X’d everything, put tape on everything that we were taking, but the story behind every single prop was awesome to see.

David Read:
We’re four lots away. I want to share a couple of details with you guys really quick here before it gets too close here. I was interested in looking up some points of comparison here. The MG, the Stargate itself, the current bid for that is $52,500. I think it opened up at $40,000. The most expensive item is later on in this auction. It is the Empire Strikes Back Mark Hamill screen-used lightsaber and hand that got chopped off. The current bid for it is $1 million.

Curtis Short:
Wow.

David Read:
There is a golden ticket from… No, there is, but that’s not the one I’m talking about here. Willy Wonka’s hat, Gene Wilder’s hat from the original 1971 film. The current bid for that is $260,000. What I think is really interesting, guys, is this. If you scroll down on… I’m hoping it doesn’t disappear… that’s why I’m talking about it now. If you scroll down, let’s do Willy Wonka here real quick. You can see lot tracking and page views, how many times people have opened up this page. For Gene Wilder’s hat, the page has been viewed 3,300 times. For Luke’s lightsaber and broken off hand, with a million dollars as the current bid, that page has been viewed 19,000 times. For the SG-1 Stargate, does anyone wanna take a guess how many times that page has been viewed?

Curtis Short:
30.

David Read:
39,766 times. It’s exceeded the number of clicks Luke’s lightsaber and chopped off hand have had by 20,000.

Curtis Short:
That’s amazing.

David Read:
That’s amazing. That is a signature Star Wars item. Now, don’t get me wrong. It’s not Luke’s hero lightsaber, which I’m pretty sure would be considerable. But an item going for a million dollars right now is 20,000 views behind this Stargate. So I’m very interested to see what’s about to happen in a few minutes here.

Curtis Short:
That says something about the fan base. Look at the fan base. It says something about the fan base and how broad… Even though Star Wars has been around for 50 years, Stargate’s been around for 30 years, whatever, but it’s the fan base. Wow.

David Read:
That’s it. We’re at 89,488 right now. This is about to close, so I think we’re gonna go ahead and tune in here. I’m gonna… Curtis, do you want me to share the audio so that you can hear it?

Curtis Short:
Yes, sir.

David Read:
OK.

Curtis Short:
No, I can listen to it.

David Read:
Let me-

Curtis Short:
No, no, actually… Sure. OK, go ahead.

David Read:
All right.

Auctioneer:
$1,600. Anyone else? You’ll look great around the pool with this this summer, right there. There it is. You get the top, the bottom, and the coverup. I’m at $15 now, $16. $15 yes. $15 it is. $15 it stays. Who got it? Heritage Live. One of the funniest shows I remember. This is from Mystery Science Theater $3000, the movie. But remember Mystery Science Theater when they would review the movies? Do you guys remember that?

David Read:
They’re selling a gumball machine right now for $8,000, guys.

Auctioneer:
Anyway, one of the funniest groups of guys here. But anyway, Mystery Science Theater 3000. Kevin Murphy. This is Tom Servo puppet. I love it. Ladies and gentlemen, lot 489. I absolutely, totally dig this. What do we have on it, Emily? $75. Now $8,000. Now $8,000 on the Mystery Science Theater 3000, the movie. I’m at $75, now $8,000. Now at a bid $8,000. Now $75…

David Read:
It’s not even the original.

Auctioneer:
… now to go to $8,000.

David Read:
There was Mystery Science 2000–

Auctioneer:
$75. It is now at $8.

David Read:
–that came out years before.

Auctioneer:
… who’s there at $8,000? $75. It is bid eight.

David Read:
2000? Really?

Auctioneer:
$7,500. Now to go to eight grand. Who’s there at eight?

Curtis Short:
There was Mystery Science…

Auctioneer:
Heritage Live, what do you say? $8,000. I’m at $75.

Curtis Short:
… Theater…

Auctioneer:
$7,500. Now to go to $8,000.

Curtis Short:
… 3000 is the more recent

Auctioneer:
… Heritage Live, can you give me more?

Curtis Short:
Let me Google it. I’ve gotta look it up

Auctioneer:
I’m at $75. Now to go $8,000. $8,000. Thank you. Now to go to $85. Now to bid 8,500. I’m at $8,000. Now $85. $8,000 to go to $8,500. Fair warning at eight. Now to go to $85. Now to bid $8,500. I’m off and running on this one. This is a great one. This is one of the great ones here.

David Read:
Here we go, guys.

Auctioneer:
I’m at $8,000, now $85. $8,000, now to go to $8,500. $8,000 it is. Now to bid $8,500. A spoof science fiction, if you will. I’m at eight, now $85. $8250 also works. $8250 works. I’m at $8,000. Now to go to $82 and a half. $8,000 bill. Anybody now at $8250? $8,000. Anyone else? Fair warning at $8,000. A little bit more, then we’ll do it at $8,000. And it goes to Heritage Live. Fantastic. This is amazing. Absolutely incredible. This is a 10-year show. 10 years Stargate was on. This is a great one. This is a time travel. This is it. You can time travel. This is the arrival. This is the arrival station, if you will. How’s that? This is a full-scale screen-used travel Stargate. The gate. The gateway as you transfer yourself for different dimensions, different time periods. This is it. Impressive example. Stands 24 feet high, measures 22 feet in diameter. There’s a great photo of it. You walk up the stairs, and bam, you’re somewhere else. Pretty cool on this one. This is one of the great ones. The provenance is the Propworx Stargate Artifacts Official Auction in 2010. It’s absolutely incredible. We love this item in the sale. And again, this can confidentially be identified as the only traveling Stargate used by production across all of the franchise spinoffs through Stargate Universe.

David Read:
That’s not true.

Auctioneer:
How about that? Ladies and gentlemen. You wanna do time travel? Let’s do it. I’m at lot 490.

David Read:
Dude.

Auctioneer:
What are we gonna do for Stargate? $52,500. $52 five. $60,000. $60,000 now. It’s prior $60. That’s a tie. We gotta break it. Now to go to $65,000.

David Read:
$70,000–

Auctioneer:
I suggest the interest…

David Read:
–the last time it was sold.

Auctioneer:
… $65, now $70,000. I’m at $65, now $70,000. $65, now to go to $70. What do you think at $70,000? We gave this a full page of full layout on this one. It’s a big one. $65, now $70 grand. Now to go to $70,000. I’m at $65, now $70. What do you think at $70,000?

David Read:
Seriously.

Auctioneer:
Heritage Live, what do you think at $65? Now to bid $70 grand. Go $70. $65 it is. Now to bid $70,000. Heritage Live, what say you beyond that? I’m at $65, now $70,000–

David Read:
It’s gotta go $70.

Auctioneer:
–for the Stargate.

Curtis Short:
Come on!

Auctioneer:
Again, the show ran for 10 years. Can you imagine? Now, that really is an eternity in TV world. I’m at $65,000. Now bid $70. $65,000. Now $70,000. Heritage Live, what say you? What say you? $67,000, that would be the cut bid. That’s a viable bid. Get that in there. That’s $2,500. Don’t not use it. If you haven’t used it, I don’t see a lot of cut bids up there. Let’s get the cut bid at $67,500. If you’re in the losing end at $65,000, get that cut bid on in play at $67,500. What do you think now? Heritage Live, you thinking about it at $67,500? You gotta bid it now. Don’t let the weekend come around and go, “Oh, why didn’t I do that?” Don’t do that. We get calls about that. “Is that still available?” No. $70,000. Now $75.

David Read:
Whoo.

Auctioneer:
Now to go to $75,000. I’m at $79 to go to $75.

Curtis Short:
There we go.

Auctioneer:
$70,000 now $75,000. That’s what happens at an auction. The fireworks begin. $75, now to go to $80,000. I’m at $75, now to go to $80.

David Read:
Good.

Auctioneer:
What do you say at $80,000?

David Read:
I wanted it to exceed–

Auctioneer:
I’m at $75, now to go to $80.

David Read:
–what it originally sold for.

Auctioneer:
A couple people are thinking, “I’ve got a place for this. I’ve got a place for this.”

David Read:
And then 25% buyer’s premium on top of this.

Auctioneer:
I know you do. $75.

David Read:
Whoever owns it at this point–

Auctioneer:
I’m gonna say they’re at $80,000

David Read:
–will have to pay $100,000 to get it.

Auctioneer:
Heritage Live, one more bid maybe. $77,500. Still haven’t seen the cut bid. Still haven’t seen ’em. I’m at $75,000, now to go to $77,500. What do you think? Waiting it out? Heritage Live, anybody else? Fair warning it at $75,000 for the 10-year show, Stargate. Anybody else? $75,000. Anyone else? All bids in. Any other bids? All calls to action now. $75,000 is it, and it does sell at $75,000. And that is Heritage Live. The all-in price for that, $93,750.

Curtis Short:
All right.

David Read:
Wow, guys.

Curtis Short:
At least it held its value. Some parts, they don’t hold. But with this being so big, so old, wow. It’s crazy.

David Read:
$70,000 in US in 2010 is what in ‘26? So, that would be – $107,580. So, it’s technically lost, compared to last time. But if anyone whom I know actually won it, please get in touch with me here. Let me say here. No one yet. I just got a message from someone in the Stargate family. I’m like, “Did they get it?”

Curtis Short:
No.

David Read:
So if there’s anyone in there who got it …

Curtis Short:
There’s a couple fans I would think. Jim Hume. I haven’t heard from Jim Hume for a while. He bought big stuff. And also Clay Brown out of Texas. He liked the big stuff, too.

David Read:
The winner is actually in the chat. T-R-S-O-H-M-E-R, TR Sohmers, I’m guessing, was quoted $17,000 in shipping. TR Sohmers, where are you in the world? What state are you in? I’m curious.

Curtis Short:
I’d like to know that too, ’cause that seems…

David Read:
Very cool.

Lee Webb:
I would do it, I’ll do it for 16.

David Read:
Once it’s up, I would love to go and have a look at it. Exactly.

Curtis Short:
If you need some help, let me know.

David Read:
It’s gonna be in Las Vegas. It’s gonna be in Vegas. All right.

Curtis Short:
The gate is where? It’s in Dallas. That’s where Heritage is at.

David Read:
Is that right? OK.

Curtis Short:
I think it’s in Dallas.

David Read:
You can’t pay $17,000 to go from Texas–

Curtis Short:
Uh-uh…

David Read:
–to V- well, maybe.

Curtis Short:
I don’t know. Not seeing it.

David Read:
It took up, what? A quarter of one of our 18-wheelers? Less?

Curtis Short:
But that’s not gonna cost $17,000, though.

David Read:
It’s not gonna cost that, no. For the record everyone, Curtis worked at UPS for years.

Curtis Short:
I shipped everything from the big board, the navigation plotting board, to the maps. That thing was massive.

David Read:
The star map and the maps and everything else was crazy.

Curtis Short:
All that stuff. But I think you’d probably find a better deal.

David Read:
Tara Sohmer says they said they needed a 53-foot truck. Tara Sohmer says, “I’m gonna get alternate shipping,” smiley face. Thank you, Curtis. Because that’s ridiculous.

Curtis Short:
You’d find something better.

David Read:
What do you think they should push for?

Curtis Short:
The gate isn’t–

David Read:
‘Cause you know the dimensions, you know the rates.

Curtis Short:
–the gate isn’t 53 inches long, You don’t need a 53-inch truck.

David Read:
It comes apart.

Curtis Short:
It comes apart. Listen, it’s not hard.

David Read:
You mean 53 feet, right?

Curtis Short:
You could probably go get a 24-foot box truck, take it apart and fit it in there if you’re good at packing it. If you’re good at what you’re doing.

David Read:
Whoops. I imagine it’s already been taken apart again. But yeah. They just put it together to photograph it.

Curtis Short:
I don’t know, look for a better deal. Actually, you don’t know who they’re using to package their stuff. Maybe it’s the best of the best. I can’t say. $17,000, maybe that is a good deal for me. But I don’t know. Seems high to me.

David Read:
There’s nothing wrong with getting estimates, for sure. So, the pedestal was the Langaran platform from “Seizure.” So, the story behind this. The first live auction was held in Seattle at the Sci-Fi Museum that Paul… What’s his last name?

Curtis Short:
Paul.

David Read:
Owned.

Curtis Short:
Paul Allen.

David Read:
Paul Allen.

Curtis Short:
Founder of Microsoft.

David Read:
The original owner of this Stargate. He was a private bidder. Our plan was to have Mark Davidson and his team come down, or someone from that team, come down to Seattle, meet us with the Stargate. We were gonna bring it up from Orange County, California to this event and have it as the centerpiece in the museum for this live auction. It’s gonna be perfect. Couple months before, Mark calls me. They want the gate for “Seizure,” for SGU, for that episode. And I was like, “Yeah, and when is that gonna be?” They’re like, “The week that you’re up there doing the live auction is the week that SGU is returning to the Milky Way galaxy to Langara.” And I was like, “Mother…” Like, seriously?

Curtis Short:
I remember–

David Read:
What are the odds?

Curtis Short:
— I remember this as you’re telling this story. It was like, “What?”

David Read:
Give me a break. But at the same time we didn’t have to worry about shipping it. They went ahead and drove it back down–

Curtis Short:
They handled everything.

David Read:
— from Vancouver.

Curtis Short:
They handled everything. They were great.

David Read:
And we got a pedestal out of it.

Curtis Short:
And we got the base out of it. We got the pedestal out of it.

David Read:
That’s it. And I didn’t have to put it back in storage because it didn’t go. And apparently a lot of the planes from Battlestar didn’t sell. That’s gonna always be one of my little disappointments. I really hope that this guy, or gal, reaches out to me through my email because once it’s up and installed I will definitely do an episode out there in Vegas covering it because…

Curtis Short:
That’d be pretty cool. I wonder, do they have anything else? Any other items? Any big items? ‘Cause this is a big item. I wonder if it’s going with some other stuff.

David Read:
Anyone in the chat, do any of you folks have any items from Stargate?

Curtis Short:
Remember the console pieces from Atlantis? Or the Daedalus consoles?

David Read:
Oh, man. The Earth spaceship sets and all the Ancient sets. The stuff that we had to plug in and photograph in different lighting conditions was absolutely excessive. And you had a whole process for going through that, didn’t ya?

Lee Webb:
Absolutely. See, look how clean those backgrounds are. That’s the trick on that, is we were going to straight white backgrounds and uploading. One of the things that were in the way that wouldn’t be in the way today is we would dial in with our internet about, I don’t know, three times a day for about 10 minutes. And that’s all we had when we were working on this stuff. And then we were uploading to Damaris with a cellphone connection ’cause that warehouse didn’t have any kind of internet. It was the little hindrances, but that was the only hindrance.

David Read:
I remember asking you, “Where are you putting this stuff?” And you said, “I’m putting it up in the Cloud.” And I remember saying, “Lee, what’s the Cloud?” ‘Cause this was 2010. So, you had to educate me on what that was. Man.

Lee Webb:
Because there was no possible way to build a catalog once we were done photographing it, at the end of every day I uploaded everything with the numbers, whichever number they were gonna be fit into the catalog, which you already had figured out ahead of time and which is in a spreadsheet. And Damaris was laying out the catalog pages the next day of the things we shot the day before. And then she would send me little screen grabs of “Hey, how do you think this looks?” And I’m like, “Ooh, the third from the right is actually three times bigger than that. It’s not the same height as the rest,” or something like that. And we’d do that kind of stuff all the time, scaling them out. These little details.

Curtis Short:
The process you guys had, Lee, David, Damian, writing the descriptions, Damaris, putting the catalogs together.

David Read:
It was an assembly line.

Curtis Short:
It was an assembly line. Once it ran. It ran good. It was efficient. The amount of stuff we put through with just a small group that we had…

Lee Webb:
Look at the color. That color is great. I forget about all this stuff. Wow, we even lit them up. We did whatever we could.

Curtis Short:
Beautiful.

David Read:
We had a couple of people who were familiar with electronics. We were able to open up a number of these pieces and reactivate a lot of them. And in one specific situation with the X699, the big effing gun, that was introduced in “Bounty” and then reused in Stargate Continuum at the beginning, it actually had underneath the heat sink a removable panel with crystals and a whole lit section in there that was never shown on screen. We got this thing down in Orange County. We’re going through it. And we’re trying to figure out what’s rattling in the middle of it? Something is clearly broken. And we couldn’t figure out what it was. So we sat it down on its side, and Dean actually lifted the side of it that was designed to look like a heat sink, because everything’s fake. And lo and behold, on the inside of it, there were these stray human-created crystals that were reverse engineered from Goa’uld or ancient technology or whatever inside this big crystal gun, and a lit compartment behind it where you could slide the crystals in and they would glow, and it was never used on screen. It just was not something that was ever seen.

Curtis Short:
Remember we had the hardest time trying to figure that gun out for a long time?

David Read:
They had radio-controlled switches that went with it. So, it would power up, you’d power down. You could change the intensity of it. And it had the short circuit just like it does in the show. It was magnificent stuff. They had one guy, I’m pretty sure, that they went to for all of this electronics work in terms of the radio controls and everything else, and his work was so good. Guys, this has been terrific to have you. Anything else before we wrap up?

Lee Webb:
It’s a great prop.

Curtis Short:
Been a pleasure, David. This is always great to get back together with everybody. And Lee, fantastic to see you, brother. Man.

Lee Webb:
Good to see you, Curtis.

Curtis Short:
It’s really good to see you. Man, great. All right.

David Read:
Guys, this has been a treat. I apologize that the documentary has taken as long as it has to come available. Still, I’m working on that. Lockwatcher says, “Wonder what the cost to ship the Stargate would be.” We were already talking about that on air. So, we don’t think it would go for $17,000 US. We think we could probably get it for cheaper than that.

Curtis Short:
I don’t know. Someone will want to reach out to me somewhere and…

David Read:
If they reach out to me–

Curtis Short:
Reach out to David…

David Read:
–I shall get them to you.

Curtis Short:
And then maybe I’ll find something out real quick and do something, see what I can do.

David Read:
That’s right. You can hook people up

Curtis Short:
Give you some direction to go.

Lee Webb:
I have my commercial truck driver’s license. Curtis, you rent the truck. We’ll both fly to Texas. We’ll drive it to Vegas and come home. We’ll do it for $16,500.

Curtis Short:
I need to get out to the West Coast anyways. It’s only a 10-hour drive to Dallas for me.

David Read:
No, we’ll do it.

Curtis Short:
I’ll get the truck out there.

David Read:
I’ll do it for $15,000. Do I hear $14,500?

Lee Webb:
$14,500.

Lee Webb:
I don’t know. Gas is expensive. The truck is a little bit pricey.

Curtis Short:
It’d be one great way to end the Stargate mission.

Lee Webb:
No, but it would be a great addition to the video or to the documentary as well.

David Read:
You know what?

Curtis Short:
That would be.

David Read:
That would be a great way to finish, for us all to meet in Vegas underneath the Stargate.

Curtis Short:
Hey, that’d be awesome.

David Read:
We’ve talked about that.

Lee Webb:
Ooh. Hey, I live only 170 miles from Vegas. It’s close to me.

David Read:
That’s not bad.

Curtis Short:
I’m there.

David Read:
I’m not crazy about Vegas. I just went out there a couple of weeks ago and it had been about 10 years and I was like, “You know what? OK.” Guys, thank you.

Curtis Short:
It’s OK to visit for a day. All right, David. Love you.

David Read:
Love you. Love you, Lee.

Curtis Short:
Love you guys. Bye-bye.

David Read:
Take care of yourselves. All right. That was my old boss, Curtis Short, and my partner in crime, Lee Webb of Propworx, the photographer. My name is David Read. You’re watching the Stargate Oral History Project. If you enjoyed this episode and you wanna see more content like this on YouTube, do me a favor and click that like button. It does make the show go further. I can’t believe I just said that. But if you really enjoyed something about the show, leave a comment below in the description, because that actually does make more of a difference in terms of our reach. Share a thought. And I cannot thank enough my Patreon supporters who are continuing to support me even though we’ve no longer got a new show coming. We’ve all been gutted because of that, but we’re all still in this together. And sooner or later we’re gonna have another Stargate show, another Stargate property, another product. It’s just gonna be a little while before we get it. So, we’re all gonna be here together through this. This was an awesome episode. I have been so excited about this Propworx documentary that I’ve been working on. The problem with it is that I’ve got about seven or eight hours of content recorded with about 400 stories. I have to Ken Burns myself, put myself into a hole and sit down, and with Excels build all of it together because not everyone could have had the same opportunity to meet for a conversation, so a lot of it’s in pieces, and the same story is told again and again. I’ve said 2026, I’m hoping it’s gonna be 2026, but I just don’t know, and it’s one of those things that I wanna be right. So, it’s gonna take at least a month of 12- to 16-, 18-hour days pulling this thing off. But it’s on my to-do list. And the fact of the matter is that my Patreon people are helping me to pull it off, so thank you guys so much for that. We have another show coming up here in 90 minutes. Ben Robinson of Master Replicas is gonna be joining us for your exclusive first look at what one of the physical models of the Master Replicas Serpent Guard helmet looks like. He’s gonna show us the prototype, so stick around for that. Antony, Raj, Lockwatcher, thank you guys for helping out with our moderating. I don’t know why words fail me at the end of the show, but they always seem to. My moderating team, I cannot do this without them, and it means the world to me to have them. Antony, Kevin, Lockwatcher, Marcia, Raj, Jakub, Enigma, Steven, and Lord Thoth has just joined us as well. Thanks to our team over at Venture Pictures, who did a lot of the opening and closing credits, especially for this episode, Matt Eagles, G. Wilson, Frederick Marcoux at ConceptsWeb, who keeps dialthegate.com up and running. My dear friend, Jakub Olejarz, who is my lead archivist and producer, who is responsible for putting all of these episodes and filing them away. I am tremendously blessed. We just don’t have a new Stargate show, but we’re gonna stick around. You’ll find me here in 90 minutes. Hope you can join us. My name is David Read for Dial the Gate. I appreciate you tuning in, and I’ll see you on the other side.