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Timecodes

1:32 Announcing the New STARGATE Series!
8:32 Opening Credits
9:14 So They’re Doing a Thing!
10:10 Our First Simulcast
11:18 Who We Are and What We Do
14:11 When We Heard the News
16:37 Announcing Martin Gero’s New Show
17:26 Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich are Involved
19:36 When SGU Ended … Up Until Now
22:12 Amazon Went Back to the Well
25:00 Martin Gero’s Stargate Pedigree
28:05 Chat Messages
29:19 Amazon Has Been Brave
30:20 A Show For New Fans, Too!
32:22 Opening Minds with Science Fiction
33:29 Stargate’s Light in an Era of “Dark” Television
35:30 New Show Status
36:53 The Cathartic Effect of the Stargate Franchise
39:18 Maintaining the Tone of Stargate in the New Series
41:00 Fandom’s Role in Keeping the Franchise Alive
44:02 Joseph Mallozzi #1!
45:49 New Series Showrunners
47:14 Familiar Faces in the New Series?
49:53 A New Show with a New Story
53:22 Stargate’s International Reach
55:16 Old Enemies
55:46 The Stargate Program Going Public
58:08 Supporting Gateworld
1:01:03 Episode Count Speculation
1:05:32 The Fate of Brad Wright’s Pilot
1:06:42 The Canonicity of Stargate: Origins
1:08:53 Release Date Speculation
1:10:01 Production Location Speculation
1:11:47 Will SGC Move to Space Force?
1:14:24 CGI Advancements since SG:U
1:16:25 Episodic or Serialized Storylines
1:18:44 Reviving the Gateworld Podcast?
1:19:38 Join the Gateworld Team!
1:22:55 Join the Dial The Gate Team!
1:29:50 Live Chat Comments
1:31:28 The (Real) Stargate the Fans Built
1:34:00 David’s Fitness Secrets
1:36:04 Live Chat Q&A
1:37:58 Why New Stargate Now?
1:39:30 Pulling the Old Production Crew into the New Series
1:40:19 What Stories Can Be Told in a New Series
1:43:20 New Series Information Recap
1:46:06 Fandom Podcasts
1:47:00 Wormhole X-Tremists
1:48:20 Stargate Fandom Podcast
1:49:48 Give us the Soundtrack!
1:51:30 Stargate Files Podcast
1:52:15 Stargate SG-1 For the First Time Podcast
1:53:58 Send us your Creative Works
1:55:05 It’s All About the Viewership
1:57:28 Fanmade Props
2:00:56 Tying Up Loose Ends
2:02:08 Master Replicas
2:04:07 Fan Theories Becoming Reality
2:06:35 Sci-Fi Chronicles
2:08:48 Earth’s Technological Advancements
2:12:01 Live Interviews with Actors
2:14:37 Upcoming Dial the Gate Episodes
2:22:22 MastersFX Tour
2:23:23 Firearms Training with Rob Fournier
2:24:11 Help Needed in Vancouver!
2:24:56 The Fate of Atlantis
2:26:57 RJB Mallacore Fan Art
2:28:03 New Stargate Fans in 2025
2:28:58 Using Fandom to Announce the New Series
2:31:45 Gateworld SG-1 Season Recaps
2:32:58 Darren and David’s Journalistic Team
2:36:16 David Hewlett Livestreams
2:38:56 Upcoming Fan Hangouts
2:40:21 Ausgate and Gatecon
2:42:45 Upcoming Events Recap
2:43:35 Fan CGI Models
2:44:33 Live Stream Wrapup
2:46:33 Where to Find Live Stream Recordings
2:47:05 Celebrating New Stargate
2:50:13 Live Stream Wrapup (for real!)
2:54:27 End Credits

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TRANSCRIPT
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David Read [clip]:
You guys ready?

Martin Gero [clip]:
Yeah. OK, great.

Brad Wright [clip]:
Perfect.

Joseph Mallozzi [clip]:
Absolutely.

Darren Sumner [clip]:
Welcome everyone, we have big Stargate news to talk about today. My name is Darren Sumner, I’ve been covering the franchise for more than 25 years over at the fan site, GateWorld.net.

David Read [clip]:
My name is David Read, I run Dial the Gate, which is a cast and crew interview archive on YouTube.

Martin Gero [clip]:
This is so exciting, this has been a very hard secret to keep for the last 18 months. But we can announce today that a brand-new Stargate series is coming to Prime Video.

Brad Wright [clip]:
What?

Martin Gero [clip]:
Brad, this shouldn’t be news to you.

Brad Wright [clip]:
It isn’t, but it is great news.

David Read [clip]:
Still hearing it is like, oh my God, they’re doing it.

Martin Gero [clip]:
It’s so rare for the original creators to get to work on the new version of a show. It’s incredible that Amazon MGM Studios and Prime Video have come together and not gone in a totally new direction. That they have respected what we have all created. And when I say, “We all,” I don’t mean Brad, Joe, I mean all of the cast and crew, all of the writers, and, to a large extent, the fandom have created, and we’re honoring that in this new version. For us, we wanted to come here and make the announcement today with you guys, because it was our way of saying thank you. Thank you for keeping the lights on.

David Read [clip]:
I’m blown away that I am in this room with these extraordinary people, along with Darren here. And I’ve got to ask, why us? You could have asked anybody to be a part of this group.

Martin Gero [clip]:
You guys have been keeping it going. It was pre-social media. So GateWorld was the place where people would convene where they wanted to talk about the show. Much of the fan community grew out of GateWorld. And in the 14 years that the show has been off the air, it’s not just you guys, but an incredible fandom of podcasters and cosplayers and convention-goers that have kept the demand for Stargate alive. The endless rewatches, that has helped. It has helped beyond, I can’t even explain to you how much that has helped.

Joseph Mallozzi [clip]:
When I first joined the franchise in Season Four, one of the first things I did was get on social media, and I started to interact with the fans. And little did I realize that I would be interacting with them for 25 years. And I can tell you that in that 25-year span, their enthusiasm for Stargate has never waned. Hardly a day ever went by when someone would ask me, “When is new Stargate coming out? When are we gonna get a new Stargate?” And the opportunity to finally tell them Stargate is coming is incredible.

Darren Sumner [clip]:
I gotta say thanks to you, Joe. You’ve also been a tireless advocate supporting fans and keeping some hope alive. And it’s not just for us, fans who grew up on the original shows, maybe some of us watched it with our parents or with our kids. But now in those 14 years, there’s a whole new crop of fans who have discovered the show on streaming or other places. We have a million questions. Let me ask, though, the one question that I think so many fans are asking, and have been worried about as Stargate has moved from one shelf to the other over the years. Is this gonna be a reboot?

Martin Gero [clip]:
It is not a reboot. It is not a reboot. It is a brand-new chapter. It’s its own unique chapter in the Stargate universe. So, for us, it’s incredibly important that obviously everyone watching this Zoom, everyone that’s getting excited about this announcement will love the show. But the amazing thing about Prime Video is it airs everywhere, all around the world. And so for us it’s really important to not only have it so that the fans feel like this is my Stargate, this is the Stargate I’ve been waiting 14 years for, but that a brand-new audience can come in without having to have watched 350 episodes of an amazing show. That they can start with Episode One of the new Stargate show, and then if they love it, then they can go back and watch everything else.

David Read [clip]:
It’s extraordinary that finally a show that’s been designed for a global audience will be able to be seen simultaneously by a global audience. And you have no idea how excited that makes so many of us out here who didn’t get to share it all at the same time when it aired. So, the next question I wanna know is, are we going to see any familiar faces?

Martin Gero [clip]:
Listen, for another time, most of the world is finding out at the same time as all of these fans. So, give us a beat, but more to come.

Brad Wright [clip]:
Another thing that I’m really excited about with this new show is that we’re gonna be able to do things that we could not do in 1997, and even beyond that. We’re gonna be able to do almost anything in terms of visual effects and everything our imagination can come up with now. I won’t be the guy in the office saying no because we can do stuff now.

Darren Sumner [clip]:
I’ve said on stage at Gatecon that Stargate matters. It matters to us. It’s not just a show. This is a franchise, this is a world that has brought people together. It’s helped people connect with their family, and it’s helped us to make new friendships, including with you guys. So, the fact that we get more of it is just a joy.

Martin Gero [clip]:
So, of course we’re making the show for the fans, of course, but we’re also making it for people that have never watched Stargate and potentially don’t have a sci-fi franchise they even like. I think what’s amazing about the Stargate construction is that it takes place today. It takes place on Earth, the Earth that you recognize. But yet, this gateway to the stars allows us to tell these amazing stories with epic scope, incredible sense of humor, and again, a sense of presence in the real world. I think my wife is not a huge sci-fi fan and a lot of that is because she’s like, “What’s this gotta do with me?” And I think what’s great about that is Stargate tears down those barriers. This is a show for everyone, everywhere.

Brad Wright [clip]:
But I will say this. A lotta speculation about what people want the show to be and what they don’t want the show to be, I strongly feel that they will watch this show and say, “This is Stargate.”

Martin Gero [clip]:
We could talk for hours, and I want it to be a first taste with you guys to share the excitement: we’re back, it’s happening, it’s gonna be incredible, and also, we’ll be in touch. This is not the last you’re gonna hear from us. We’re not gonna go away. We’re literally still getting all of our socials together, but we’ll be talking semi-regularly.

David Read [clip]:
This has been a group of people who has always been there for the fans and not cut them out of the process. And I’m so thankful that we don’t have to wait another 14 years. You guys take as long as you need. We will be there.

Darren Sumner [clip]:
Thank you for bringing this straight to the fans. Thank you for the Stargate that you’ve made in the past, and I think I can speak for fandom, thank you for Stargate in the future as well.

David Read [clip]:
Thank you, guys.

Martin Gero [clip]:
We’ll talk soon.

David Read:
They’re doing a thing. Can you hear me?

Darren Sumner:
Let’s go.

David Read:
You were silent clapping. Jazz clapping, like they did in Animaniacs.

Darren Sumner:
I’m clapping. You have my audio coming through?

David Read:
I got you, baby.

Darren Sumner:
Oh, man.

David Read:
Darren?

Darren Sumner:
It’s the day. It’s the day.

David Read:
Can you believe it?

Darren Sumner:
We have so much to talk about. I’m not only having a hard time believing that it’s finally happened, but the way that they’re doing it and the people that they got. We’re gonna talk about all of it on this stream, but I am astounded.

David Read:
So, welcome.

Darren Sumner:
I was so thrilled when we got this news.

David Read:
Welcome to the first simulcasts–are my levels all right?–of GateWorld and Dial the Gate. You’ve got The Complete Guide to Stargate in that guy right there, who has been trucking away at this thing since a certain lousy serpent head took his helmet off, “You will call me Na’onak no longer.”

Darren Sumner:
It was Apophis. GateWorld started in 1999. Halfway through Season Three of SG-1. We had an amazing run from ’99, and then shortly after you joined GateWorld, we had an amazing run all through the show’s production. SGU wrapped, they wrapped photography in 2010, and they aired their final episode in 2011. I looked for a hat and I couldn’t find one. It’s been 14 and a half… almost 15 years. Almost 15 years that the show’s been off the air. I’m blown away.

David Read:
I’ve been with you since two years in. I created Dial the Gate, for those of you who don’t know. Darren has been the premier guy for news and entertainment and everything for Stargate for 25 years. 26. Sorry, everyone’s gonna have to forgive me. I’m wound up normally and I’m really wound up today. And I have been with him since ’03 or ’02, and I have gone off to start Dial the Gate in 2020 to archive the stories of the cast and crew of the show. And we’re here together for our first of many livestreams, and I couldn’t be happier to see another man’s face. No one, Darren, has earned this more than you have.

Darren Sumner:
You are certainly up there. The amount of work that you have done over the last five years on Dial the Gate is astounding. Over on Dial the Gate, this is what, episode 370?

David Read:
That’s right.

Darren Sumner:
And there’s a ways to go. Even just archiving the history of past Stargate, let alone– Dude, now you have a new show to cover too.

David Read:
Yes.

Darren Sumner:
We’re gonna meet new faces. We’re gonna get new writers, new producers, along with the returning favorites that we love, and new cast members.

David Read:
And I think we can say that it’s gonna be a little while before those things start really coming in. But they’ve said that they’re gonna keep the fans in the loop, which is awesome. So, shall we talk about how we found out?

Darren Sumner:
I’m watching my chat first. Guys, we’re live streaming simultaneously on both Dial the Gate and GateWorld right now. Let us know if everything’s OK. I saw one message in my chat saying, “David, you sound quieter than me.” So, can you pull your mic a little closer to you, maybe?

David Read:
I can, yep. I don’t want to pop.

Darren Sumner:
Guys, we’re here to celebrate with you. This is the first of many livestreams to come. We’ve got several things planned for the rest of the week. This is our live, in the moment, you just saw this announcement, livestream reactions. The announcement is up on GateWorld. You just saw it play here on the stream, but it’s up on GateWorld if you wanna rewatch it. It’s on Prime Video’s YouTube channel. That’s fun. You and I are on Prime Video’s YouTube.

David Read:
God. Mom is so proud.

Darren Sumner:
I’ve got full coverage, when you guys are done with this livestream, go and watch Amazon’s Stargate video on GateWorld’s channel. I’ve got about 12 minutes of coverage of this, talking about it, speculating about it. We’ll cover everything here in the livestream but be sure to watch my video before the day’s over.

David Read:
We’ve got three days of celebrations planned. This is day one, and we’re gonna be celebrating with fans who have been in our circle over the next two days, on Thursday and Friday. Those times are already posted at dialthegate.com. You can come and see. We’re going to be inviting many of you on. We’re gonna be doing a couple of things that we haven’t before. So, a quick summary: Joseph Mallozzi texted me almost two weeks ago, said, “Can you sign this?” And I was like, “Yes.” I looked at him like– And then you, I think, did the same, and then a few days later, what happened?

Darren Sumner:
It came to nothing. I hemmed and hawed on signing an Amazon non-disclosure because–

David Read:
I wasn’t gonna say anything.

Darren Sumner:
Because I’m a news site, and disclosure is what I do. But I talked with Joe and we figured it out and came to a good place. We got on a Zoom chat thinking it was just gonna be Joe.

David Read:
I saw Brad Wright, and then I saw Martin Gero. And it was like–

Darren Sumner:
Haven’t seen that guy for a while.

David Read:
“Oh, no. I know what’s–” Martin Gero is my birthday buddy, so we always text each other on our birthday every year.

Darren Sumner:
It’s not your birthday, though.

David Read:
And I hadn’t seen his face in years, and then it was like, “I know what’s about to happen.” And I sat there for the next 10, 15 minutes, just processing. And I’ve been stuck in this Christmas Eve kind of mode, and I’ve had this secret. I’ve never held a secret like this before. And let me tell you something: it screws up your sleep. I don’t know how they slept last night. I didn’t.

Darren Sumner:
I’ve been making it through. We recorded what you just saw on Friday. You and I have known for a week, a little over a week. I don’t know how you survived.

David Read:
I didn’t have anyone to tell. You have a wife. There was a chance that it coulda launched yesterday, and they moved it to today, and I was like, “Please God, don’t let them anymore.” So, do you wanna talk about the news? Or do you wanna take a look at some of what our folks in each of our respective chats are saying first? How do you wanna do this?

Darren Sumner:
Let’s recap the news first, ’cause we’ve got several hundred people online between both chats and …

David Read:
Go for it, news boy.

Darren Sumner:
… not everybody’s been here since the start, since the announcement played. There is an announcement from Amazon, a video created for Amazon Prime Video. We’ve got it on GateWorld’s channel, you can watch it on Prime Video’s channel. It’s a seven-minute video that is me and David and Brad Wright, Joseph Mallozzi, Martin Gero, talking about what’s next. Martin reveals that Amazon is doing a new Stargate series. It is official. It’s gonna be a streaming series on Prime Video. And Martin Gero from Stargate Atlantis is the creator and the showrunner.

David Read:
Woo-hoo.

Darren Sumner:
Brad Wright and Joseph Mallozzi are also gonna be on the production team, they’re consulting producers. And then what’s not in the video that we’ll get to in a minute is, in the press release, they also put out–guys, you’re gonna freak out–Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich are also executive producers on this show.

David Read:
They’re executive producers?

Darren Sumner:
Executive producers. So we’re taking the film and the TV team. It’s like your divorced parents getting back together after 30 years. The TV team and the movie team are gonna be producing together. But it’s Martin’s show, it’s Martin’s idea. It’s his pitch, it’s his vision, and he’s in charge of it.

David Read:
That’s right. He has gone so many places as a writer. He’s absolutely been extraordinary. Every time I turn around, he’s doing something new, and no one else deserves to be at the helm of this more. If they had to pick someone new, who is also someone old, Martin Gero would’ve been the way to go. Maybe Carl Binder. But Martin, absolutely. He is the guy who knows this franchise inside and out, and the fact that they’re not doing a reboot. This thing is going to be its own thing, but also what’s in the past is in the past. That’s going to be really extraordinary, what’s going to come up next. You and I have threaded a needle through the multiverse and come out in a reality where pretty much everything we could possibly… Holy Hannah.

Darren Sumner:
Can you believe it?

David Read:
Kevin Weaver. Holy Hannah. Yes, sir. Exactly. Everything that we could have possibly wanted in our a la carte list of a new Stargate has been hit: series, existing canon, but new characters, a new adventure, something that can potentially spawn even more than what it is that currently exists right now. Fans have been …

Darren Sumner:
We grew up with that.

David Read:
… begging for it, and it’s time for us to put our money where our mouth is and support this thing when it comes forward, whenever that is. Give it a watch. I’ll get into more of the finer details in a second with you.

Darren Sumner:
It’s astonishing. We’ve been covering this for years. SGU was off the air for a while. MGM went bankrupt. It fell into control of its creditors. They set up a new team of executives to run the studio in 2010, 2011. And for years, it seemed clear that they were gonna let Stargate rest, that they weren’t interested in pushing a new project immediately. And years turned into a lot of years. We got Stargate Origins in 2018. That was that short-form, low-budget web series that you can now stream online as a movie, Stargate Origins: Catherine. Other than that, we were even hoping that that might be a starting point that turns into something bigger. Bigger projects, a full series, and it didn’t. And then MGM turned around and decided, post-COVID, I think, to sell the studio. So, those creditors who came into possession of MGM after its bankruptcy were looking for a return on their investment. Eventually they sold the studio, which we knew was coming. We knew that they were eventually selling the studio. They sold to Amazon, and then that deal took another couple of years to close. That didn’t close until the spring of 2022. So, now Amazon owns MGM, Amazon owns Stargate, and we’ve been waiting three and a half years since that deal closed to see what Amazon was gonna do with the franchise. And through all that coverage, we were thinking, give us something in canon, give us a Brad Wright show. We know Brad wrote a pilot for a fourth series that got shut down by COVID. We can talk about some of that history. But Brad made it clear after the dust had settled from the Amazon sale that Amazon was passing on his project. They weren’t gonna make it. So, now we were in this position. We’ve been in this position for a couple of years, I think: “OK, if not Brad’s show, then what?”

David Read:
We’ve gotten used to it.

Darren Sumner:
Are they gonna reboot it? Are they gonna do a feature film first? Are we gonna get a new, recast Jack and Daniel? What’s it gonna be? The fact that the TV creators of The Expanse, not the creators of the novels, but the people who adapted it to TV for Syfy, were rumored to be in the mix at one point about pitching a series. JJ Abrams and Bad Robot were in the mix at one point, reportedly to be pitching a series to Amazon, their take on Stargate. What are they gonna do? What are they gonna do? So nervous, so anxious to see what the studio’s gonna do with this franchise that we love so much. And the fact that they went back to the well, back to the original creators of the show, …

David Read:
Which they didn’t have to do.

Darren Sumner:
… even though they passed on Brad’s project, they went and found this– Martin Gero is a rising star in Hollywood. He created Blindspot, among other things, which is a show that I love.

David Read:
It’s really cool.

Darren Sumner:
It’s also got some fun Stargate Atlantis references on Blindspot. There’s a McKay reference if you watch carefully.

David Read:
Science Guy. Exactly.

Darren Sumner:
Bill Nye plays the dad of one of the main characters and drops a McKay reference in an episode. Man, you went back to the well, back to the original creators who made this universe, the TV universe that we love, and got Martin to create a new show. I can’t imagine, other than Brad, a better scenario.

David Read:
But this makes sense.

Darren Sumner:
I’m not saying Brad would be better than Martin.

David Read:
I said this to Brad and Martin a few days before, because one of the things that they commented on is Brad was like, he doesn’t have to say no anymore. And he was the one who was telling Martin no for his ideas. And then one of the comments that I made was, “It’s like you’re a grandparent now.” You told your son that, “No, you can’t do that.” And now the grandkid is gonna be born, and he’s gonna be wrapped around your little finger, or you’re gonna be wrapped around his, rather, and he’s gonna be like, “I want big effects, and I want all this stuff. Can I please?” And Brad’s gonna be like, “Yeah, but just don’t tell your dad.” So, we’re really getting the best of both worlds here, because if this is an ongoing generational thing, this is the next step where Brad has handed this off to someone who had his first writing job under him, and he went off, and he did some amazing crap. I was about to say another word.

Darren Sumner:
Stuff. Not crap. Fine quality entertainment.

David Read:
That’s what I meant. And now he’s coming back, and I’ve never seen him this excited. So, we’ve all known each other for a long time, and when he came on that chat, he was bursting at the seams. He wasn’t playing it up. He was serious. This is the most excited he’s been for a project, and that makes me even more excited, and at this point, we’re all at the cautiously optimistic phase at best. I’m gonna jump in with both feet for Martin Gero. He’s the one. He’s the one.

Darren Sumner:
Not just have we known him and been friends with him since he started on Stargate Atlantis 21 years ago, but he’s a great writer. As I say in my breakdown video, Martin Gero wrote a lot of your favorite episodes of Stargate if you’re an Atlantis fan. He wrote a lot of the season premieres, season finales, the big mid-season two-parters. He wrote “The Storm” and “The Eye.” He wrote “The Return” in Season Three. He wrote “Be All My Sins Remembered.” He wrote “First Contact” and “The Lost Tribe” in Season Five. And then a bunch of other fan-favorite episodes, he wrote “Duet,” he wrote “McKay and Mrs. Miller.” He wrote “Sunday,” which was a profound episode of Stargate.

David Read:
My favorite one.

Darren Sumner:
Whatever you might think about how “Sunday” ends, it’s an astoundingly powerful hour of television.

David Read:
It’s extraordinary. It’s my favorite one.

Darren Sumner:
So, not just is Martin OG, but he’s got so many amazing episodes under his belt.

David Read:
And he’s only matured as a writer since then. So, he’s going to not only provide the tone of what it was that we had before, but I still don’t want it to be exactly the same tone. He’s gonna have evolved sensibilities of what works and what doesn’t. His timing may be a little different. Because we’re not static throughout our lives. Creatively, we’re not. It’s been 14 years since we were left floating in space and Destiny’s envelope just … and it just kept on going, and we don’t know what happened to her. And now more than ever, I wanna see those stories again. But to be perfectly honest with you, I wanna see something new, more, knowing that they’re going to feather stuff in that they want, and there is no guarantee of how much or how little, but the fact that it’s Martin and Brad and Joe, I don’t need anything else. And I’m curious to see what everyone else in the chat is going to be saying here. Your chat and mine. So, we’re both live streaming this on youtube.com/dialthegate and gateworld.net. The live streams there are fully active. Darren is keeping an eye on his. We’re gonna talk a little bit about that more soon. My moderators are taking your questions to get to us on a separate page here for us to go over in a little bit on the Dial the Gate stream. Dude, we’re in front of a buffet at the biggest restaurant in Disneyland. What do you wanna pick first?

Darren Sumner:
I’m looking at my chat, guys. What do you think? Let’s see what fans are saying here.

David Read:
2paleo2ologist80: “Will Major Davis finally get a promotion?” No, he’s still flying a desk.

Darren Sumner:
He’s the Ensign Kim of Stargate.

David Read:
Diana Botsford, a friend of mine, wrote a couple of Stargate novels. They’re great, Four Dragons and The Drift, and I believe in one of them is an explanation as to why he’s flying a desk. There are reasons for this stuff. Stargate novels, check them out. I think it’s stargatenovels.com. They’re great. So, what do you got?

Darren Sumner:
zacharyfinch1230 says, “I’m so happy that it’s a continuation and not a reboot.” That was the big worry. I think there was a lot of anxiety among Stargate fans. Certainly, I’ll speak for myself: a lot of anxiety about what Amazon was gonna do with the brand once they picked it up. And it’s not a reboot. And it’s not even from new creators who have to now come in and learn all the lore and figure out 354 hours of television.

David Read:
And I’m honestly blown away at Amazon. They’ve done something really brave here. Truly, they did something that they didn’t have to do.

Darren Sumner:
They did not have to do this.

David Read:
If I was them …

Darren Sumner:
I’m surprised that they did it, to be honest.

David Read:
… and I was wanting to maximize profit, I would have said, “It’s wonderful. What you guys did was fantastic. Thank you so much. That’s a great roadmap. Maybe a consulting producer here and there, but we need to maximize our profit and make a blank slate out of this to loosen up all of the things that are going on so that we can …”

Darren Sumner:
They were good arguments.

David Read:
“… redesign the Stargates, that we can–”

Darren Sumner:
They were good arguments for a clean slate.

David Read:
Exactly right. And instead, what they did was, “No, no, no. That’s not how we’re gonna do it. We’re gonna maximize our relationship with the existing fandom, and we’re gonna pick a showrunner whom we can trust has a stellar track record, who when he says he’s gonna design a show for new Stargate fans, he means it.” I’m here to tell you guys today, you really have to open up your hearts to everyone who’s about to have a look at this show, and welcome them with open arms. Because this is for all of us, the Stargate fans who have waited this long, the Stargate fans who are going to return and rediscover it, but the Stargate fans who are about to emerge. This really is for them just as much.

Darren Sumner:
I really hope that that’s the case. I really hope, since the instant I saw Martin’s face on the screen, on our Zoom chat, and realized what might be about to come our way, I thought, “Boy, what fandom needs more than anything is a show that unites us.” Something to come together, to coalesce around. We’re not gonna get everything that we want, not in Season One. Season One of the new show is not gonna be Stargate Universe Season Three. It’s not gonna be Stargate Atlantis Season Six.

David Read:
‘Cause I wouldn’t want that. Too much time has passed.

Darren Sumner:
You wouldn’t want that. As much as I want questions answered and plot lines resolved, the new show, I hope, I pray, is gonna be a unifying force for fandom. Fans of the old shows, fans who are brand new, as you say, new fans coming on board, who this is gonna be their first Stargate show. Right?

David Read:
That’s right.

Darren Sumner:
How many fans have we met over the last 16 years, since SGU premiered, that say, “I wasn’t interested in Stargate and then I saw SGU and now I’m a huge Stargate fan? SGU is my show.” That’s gonna be the case with the new series as well. That’s gonna be their Stargate. And I’m hoping that our fandom is big enough and open enough to welcome those fans with open arms and embrace this thing.

David Read:
LeVar Burton said something a few years ago that struck me. He was in this little show called My Generation or something. And he had said that sci-fi fans, by their nature, are, or should be, more open-minded to accept some ideas. So, it would be that kind of a group, who are dreamers and who turn around and get us to the moon and beyond, that would be willing to, more than other groups of fans, say sports fans or that kinda thing, to hear and process new ideas. When Battlestar came out, the Ron Moore version, everyone was like, “Whoa, no way.” And then, four years later, it was like, “Whoa, nothing else.”

Darren Sumner:
He got a lot of resistance to it.

David Read:
But they trusted him. The thing that I want the most, Darren, if I’m gonna be perfectly honest with you, what’s your favorite show on TV right now?

Darren Sumner:
That’s currently airing?

David Read:
Yeah.

Darren Sumner:
Currently in production?

David Read:
Yeah. Don’t think about it. OK, you think about it. Mine is, it’s a tie right now between Severance and Paradise. Those are dark shows. They’re very well done. I’m staying away from Pluribus until the end of Season One. I watch most entertainment once the season completes. I will not be doing that with this one. Pluribus is brilliant. Severance has been so compelling despite the fact that it’s shot in an office space. I’ve never seen anything like it. Maybe I’ve drunk the Severance Kool-Aid a little bit. They’re so dark. Stargate is not bleak by its nature.

Darren Sumner:
Dark, tonally. Dramatically.

David Read:
You even look at Universe, especially near the last quarter of that show, which is, in my opinion, some of the finest of Stargate, period. It was going places. That show was cooking with gas. Give it a shot, folks, if you have not seen it, ’cause it is my favorite. Alaina kept …

Darren Sumner:
I like Severance a lot.

David Read:
… having people come up to her.

Darren Sumner:
I like Severance a lot. I like Silo a lot, although I have not seen the new season yet. Based on Season One, I loved Silo.

David Read:
I’m thinking about going to Wikipedia and seeing if there’s anyone outside of the Silo, but maybe I shouldn’t.

Darren Sumner:
Don’t. You’re gonna watch it at some point. Don’t look it up. Foundation. Now as an Asimov fan, the first thing I have to say is, this is not an adaptation of Asimov. It’s its own thing.

David Read:
It uses its name.

Darren Sumner:
If you treat it as its own thing and its own universe, that’s taking some light inspiration from Asimov’s novels, I think Foundation’s well done. I’m enjoying that. Again, haven’t seen the new season. Let’s go back to chat though, ’cause I’m getting–

David Read:
Please, be my guest.

Darren Sumner:
Chat is …

David Read:
How many do you have right now in your chat?

Darren Sumner:
… blowing up. We’ve got 549 people in GateWorld’s chat right now.

David Read:
Damn you.

Darren Sumner:
Thanks, everybody, for being here.

David Read:
I’ve got 240. Thank you, guys.

Darren Sumner:
OK, first, let’s recap. Yes, there is a new Stargate series coming. It was announced this morning by Martin Gero. It’s gonna be streaming on Prime Video. Martin Gero of Stargate Atlantis is gonna be creator and showrunner. ValcerisAtlas asks, “Do we know any ETA on when this might come out? I’m guessing they are in pre-production.” You are correct. They are in pre-production. Martin says they have —

David Read:
Have they started pre-production?

Darren Sumner:
Whatever counts as pre-production. They have a green light and they haven’t started filming yet. So, if Martin says that he has a pilot script, he’s got a show bible or part of a pitch that he has been working up for many months, and no, they haven’t cast it yet. They have not decided where they’re gonna shoot yet. All that is to come.

David Read:
Darren, you should really check out this GateWorld website. It’s really awesome.

Darren Sumner:
GateWorld, somebody worked hard on this news story, if you guys want to go over to GateWorld.net and give it a read. It’s got everything that was in the video and then some. ‘Cause there was some information that was not in the announcement video. Including Dean and Roland’s involvement.

David Read:
That’s it. So, the biggest takeaway for me is that tonally if you’ve watched Dial the Gate, it’s kinda like a bingo card position now for me. Stargate is chicken soup. I always think back to “Bane” and Ally squirting Teal’c with a squirt gun and then Teal’c squirting Daniel, and Daniel goes… The show and purple dogs, “I think dogs are the best people,” with O’Neill, with Merrin. She’s about to get her brain sucked out. And I dare anyone to say it more lightly.

Darren Sumner:
All those beats, all those moments.

David Read:
There are shows that make you feel good when they’re over. And I’m not saying that Stargate has to do that all the time, but Stargate does that. What TV show now does that? It’s so bleak and dark. And you know what? The world can suck sometimes. I don’t necessarily want to go home and turn on the TV and watch entertainment that teleports me to a world that sucks. I want to teleport sometimes …

Darren Sumner:
But I don’t get wormholed.

David Read:
… to a world that aspires to be better than it is now, that accepts the fact that it has flaws, and that it can do better. And the Douglas Anders/Grell the Robot “200” actor says that in “200.” That’s exactly why he said it. And we recently had Herbert Duncanson on Dial the Gate. He repeated the line. I was so excited.

Darren Sumner:
Good. I moderated his panel at Gatecon. And I wrote out the Asimov quote to try and get him to read it from stage, and he did his best. But man, he was reading my handwriting without his glasses under the stage lights. I’m glad he did it on Dial the Gate.

David Read:
We gave him a break to go, and I showed off a tie and then he came back and he read it. And it’s one of those exemplary moments in all of the show doing things that you wouldn’t expect. ‘Cause Teal’c never spoke, and Herbert never had lines with that character. But at the end, when you’ve done the tree houses throughout the show, the segments, and then you have the “Wormhole X-Treme!” reunion, to end on Herbert was chef’s kiss. So that was great.

Darren Sumner:
What Brad and Joe and Martin have also said to us is that this show is gonna feel like Stargate. It’s tonally what you love about Stargate. So, there’s gonna be humor. There’s gonna be adventure. There’s gonna be camaraderie. I’m excited about the tone of the show. I’m excited about the vibe, which again, would be not impossible, but really difficult for a new set of creators to capture. The magic of all those moments, that you have given us examples of.

David Read:
One of the things that I wanna point to real quick on Dial the Gate, if I can get my crap together here, is we’ve opened up a community section. And I’m just figuring this thing out, so please do bear with me while I do that. But right now, we have a lot of trivia that you can go through, and questions where I’m looking for your feedback. We’re trying to come up with all the characters who were recast one reason or another. All these things, they go back way, way back. But the most recent one here that I posted 15 hours ago, because I knew what was coming, …

Darren Sumner:
This is good.

David Read:
… what is the most crucial ingredient in a future Stargate series? I didn’t have a lot of time to think about this. Action/adventure, lighthearted comedy, exploration, and discovery, which suggests to me open to new ideas, Stargate fandom is, trusting the fact that they’ll feed into what came before. And existential and metaphysical, 4%. So we got some agnostics in there. I gotta say, I woke up this morning to the comments section and someone posted and said, “Are we really playing this game that there’s going to be a new Stargate series coming that’s based on the old stuff? Really?” And I’ve never wanted to sink a battleship so fast, and I didn’t.

Darren Sumner:
I understand it.

David Read:
I understood it.

Darren Sumner:
As somebody who covers this, who’s so invested in it like you and I are, I understand it. Man, I’ve …

David Read:
Jaded.

Darren Sumner:
… gone through dark places over the last year or so.

David Read:
I know you have.

Darren Sumner:
I’ve sort of thrown up my hands and said, “I think they’ll do something at some point. I don’t know what it’s gonna be. It’s out of my hands.” And I get that impulse, that every time we post a video or a news story speculating, “This is what Amazon should do. These are Amazon’s options. This is why we think it’s taking so long,” anything about a new show, there’s always folks who come on and comment, “You’re just doing this for clicks. This is business. This is nothing. Nothing’s gonna happen where you–”

David Read:
That’s not us doing it for clicks. There are other people doing it for clicks. They weren’t over the target. The thing here that I want everyone to take away who have been with Joe Mallozzi, with us, talking about the possibility of something is some fans have come and gone, sure, but so many of us have never given up. The reason that this is happening is because of you. We wouldn’t be here to have the extraordinary opportunity to be your ambassadors to convey this news to the world. Thank you so much for it. And now, let’s turn around, let’s support them. Let’s give them a chance to work their magic. But all of the work that you guys have put into this over the past 14 years was not for naught. And today, and the next couple of days, where we’re going to have the fan reactions and bring people in, they are all a reflection of the work that you have done. They are Martin Gero saying, “Thank you.” And Amazon saying, “We’re listening.”

Darren Sumner:
They’re listening. If there weren’t five other headlines to run with today, that would be my headline. Amazon actually paid attention to fans. They’ve been silent for so long.

David Read:
Just done whatever they wanted.

Darren Sumner:
MGM’s been silent for years. Joseph Mallozzi helped to organize fan tweet storms that blew up social media in 2019. And there was no response from the studio whatsoever. Now the headline is, they were paying attention. They were listening and it mattered. It mattered. And Amazon is listening. Martin is running the show now, and Martin is listening. He’s paying attention to fans, and they’re really working to give us the show that we want in the universe that we want.

David Read:
Joseph Mallozzi cannot get enough praise as far as I’m concerned. What he has done, sticking with all of us, taking every one of my calls, doing 16, 17, 18 episodes. When I started Dial the Gate, I pitched him first and I said, “Look, I wanna go on this journey with you. I wanna cover,” like Julia Donovan wanted to cover Prometheus, top to bottom, I wanted to cover Stargate with him bottom to top, from Season Four when he joined, all the way to the end. And he did that for me. And not only did he do that for me, he has continued to beat the drum for this fandom because he loves it, because he believes in it, because it has– I think Brad Wright said it. It’s evergreen. It’s one of those things that is perpetually relevant as you move through life and as it moves through time. It becomes more relevant as our society changes. It’s gonna be very interesting to see. We’re gonna speculate about what they might do in a little bit here. What things they’re gonna pick up, and what things they’re gonna acknowledge where our society has evolved. If someone can get me a screenshot. Let’s see if fandom can do this. Someone can get me a screenshot and email me at [email protected]. Let’s see who’s listening. Go to SGU, get me a screenshot of Eli taking a photo of the team with his iPhone. Now keep an eye on my email because I wanna show that. Because that was when we really left this world, and my God, how things have changed. There’s nine billion Elis running around now.

Darren Sumner:
Trying to keep up with the chat. You guys are blowing up. Thank you everybody for being here. This is amazing. We’re gonna try and answer your questions. We’ve also got a list of topics that we wanna go through here on this stream. And again, if you can’t hang out with us today, that’s great. Watch the replay, and then we’re gonna have more live streams as the week goes on. We’re gonna bring in other fans, friends of ours, friends of Dial the Gate, friends of GateWorld, other fans from all over the world, and have some additional live streams. We’ll go over the schedule later, but there’ll be a live stream Thursday morning and Friday afternoon, US time. Olivier7592, “Is Amanda involved?” I’m seeing a lot of these. Is Brad involved?

David Read:
We should nuke that.

Darren Sumner:
Is David involved? So, let’s go through this.

David Read:
Not nuke it but acknowledge it.

Darren Sumner:
Here’s what we know. We know that Martin Gero is creating the show. He was a writer, executive producer on Stargate Atlantis. He’s the creator and showrunner of the new series. Brad Wright is a consulting producer on the new series. Joseph Mallozzi is a consulting producer. Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich are executive producers on the new show. There is no cast yet. There is a pilot script. Somebody asked earlier, has this filmed yet? No, there is a pilot script, but it has not filmed yet. They have not cast anybody yet. And because it’s set in-universe, it’s in the canon that we know and love, it’s entirely possible that they could go get anybody. They could get Amanda. They could get Rick. They could get Michael. They could get any–

David Read:
Why wouldn’t they?

Darren Sumner:
Yes. And as fans, that’s what we’re hoping for. We’re hoping for cameos from SG-1, SGA, SGU casts. But we don’t know yet. There’s been no news about whether Amanda’s gonna be involved or anybody in front of a camera. But it is a new show, so expect that it’s gonna have a new cast.

David Read:
And I’m hopeful for the people who are out there who were secondary characters that I really wanna see again. One of the things that I loved about Stargate when it evolved is it recognized the fact that the universe was only so large, because it was a paramilitary unit, and you had an international expedition for sure, but there were only several thousand people who were aware of this thing, per se. So, when you’re on Destiny and you need T.J. to switch out with a doctor with more expertise, calling on Dr. Brightman makes sense. There’s gonna be an opportunity for a lot of folks that we’ve seen before to come back into the fray. I can’t think of anyone more that I would want to see, probably, than Jonas Quinn. He’s done his thing on Langara. Bring him back. Make him a consultant. The other one that I thought a lot about was Charles Shaughnessy as Alec Colson.

Darren Sumner:
As Alec Colson.

David Read:
He’s the billionaire entrepreneur playboy, Stark kind of guy. It makes sense. I actually honestly expected him to appear on Destiny. I thought that they sent him to Icarus. They sent him to somewhere. They didn’t send him to a beautiful planet like Maybourne where– That brain has to be used. So, it makes sense to see him again. Sarah Gardner. I wanna see Anna-Louise Plowman again. Really wanna see Sarah Gardner. My favorite character from SG-1. There are places where it makes sense, and there are places to surprise us with bringing previously established characters back into the fore along with the new characters and the new cast that are gonna come in and flesh this thing out in completely new directions.

Darren Sumner:
100%, but I do wanna level set and–

David Read:
Exactly. Pull me back down to Earth.

Darren Sumner:
Everybody’s conscious of the fact that this is a new show. It’s gonna have a new cast and it’s gonna be a new story. The language that Martin has used is, it’s its own thing, it’s its own unique chapter in the Stargate franchise. It’s not gonna be SG-1 getting back together for another season. It’s not gonna be SG-1 Season 11. Atlantis Season 6, Universe Season 3. Those stories are all part of the texture, they’re all part of the fabric of the universe that this lives in. But Martin has a new story to tell. And he has new characters to tell it with. And it’s important, I think, that we let him tell his story. I’m not gonna complain the new show, which probably doesn’t have 22 episodes per season, doesn’t have Sam Carter in it. Doesn’t have McKay in it.

David Read:
And it has to have room to breathe and do its own thing. We have to accept the fact that the people who created the stuff that we’re all here saying, “Yes, now another one of those, please.” They’re here, and they’re gonna give you another one of those. But you have to accept the fact that creative people are not gonna do the same thing that they did before, because that’s not fulfilling. And really, when you do get that thing, say, you tied up Brad Wright and stuck a typewriter in front of him in a winter storm and said, “You’re going to do the next Stargate series and I want it to be exactly the same as it was before.” And he creates this thing for you, and let’s say he doesn’t smash your head in with a typewriter. Once you read it, you’re gonna be like, “I felt like I read empty calories.” Or took in some empty calories. Because it’s not from the creative impulse that has always given him strength. Go and watch, if you have not seen it, go and watch Travelers. I cannot recommend it enough. I watched it with my folks, we inhaled it in a few weeks. It was extraordinary. And it was what he does best, sticking two people in a room and winding them up and letting them go. And Martin Gero comes from that pedigree. A lot of his stuff was a little bit more action-oriented. I’m hoping that in his 40s, and it certainly looks like it with a lot of the stuff that he’s done recently, he’s a little bit more introspective. The thing that I want more than anything is to find out who that Daniel character is in the show. To find out who the voice of reason and thoughtfulness is. Who’s gonna be willing to put his foot in his mouth and say the thing that needs to be said. Because I think more than ever, especially in today’s society, you have to have someone who is willing to stick their foot in a spot and jam a door open to something that should not be closed and say, “OK, should we be doing this? Should we not be?” Stargate is so great about folding those moments in with everything that’s going on. It’s good enough to slow things down a little bit to say, “OK, what are the implications of this here? Culturally, morally?” And also give us a damn good time.

Darren Sumner:
We need more Daniels, we need more voice of moral reason in our sci-fi storytelling. Supreme Bioshock on GateWorld, 10 gifted memberships. Thank you, that’s amazing. Appreciate you. StardustYT, “I really wanna see a multinational crew like Atlantis.” Should we talk about the fact that this is a multinational audience because it’s on Prime Video? So, Prime Video reaches the whole universe basically. It’s 240 countries and territories worldwide. So, this is gonna be the very first Stargate show where fans in all different countries can go on Prime Video and watch the new episode right as it drops. And go online and talk about it. And not worry about spoilers ’cause it hasn’t aired in my country and it’s not airing in my country until next month. That’s the kind of thing we had to deal with back in the day.

David Read:
Some did. I torrented the Sky One rips and I’m so glad I don’t have to do that anymore. Because I want my–

Darren Sumner:
Don’t confess to crimes on livestream.

David Read:
They can come and get me. They have made this so that I can purchase Prime Video and go and watch this and my vote can be counted, because they’re collecting that data. And so is everyone else globally simultaneously. That’s the thing that I think really is the most mind-blowing about it. The people who picked up MGM’s library have the ability to share this with everyone in the world all at once. And I think that if you think of really any other IP, none deserves that more than this one does because it is the most universal of anything that’s moving forward right now, with the exception of maybe Trek. It speaks to all of us, and now it’s going to in the world’s languages, and that’s really cool. So, we’re all gonna be able to take the ride together at the same time. My livestream says–

Darren Sumner:
What’s going on over on Dial the Gate right now?

David Read:
Kaanboztepe, “When does it start streaming? Is it already on Prime?” Yeah. Everyone found out about it. They didn’t tell you? No, production begins soon, pre-production if not already. Uriustosh for David, “Which Goa’uld would you like to see make a comeback, dead or alive?” That’s Sarah Gardner.

Darren Sumner:
Can’t be Sarah Gardner ’cause she’s not a Goa’uld anymore.

David Read:
So, if I had to pick someone else, I’d say Sarah Gardner.

Darren Sumner:
OK. Goa’uld her again. Let’s do it.

David Read:
Kennylong653STORYLINES! Nice choice. “Public disclosure,” he says, “of the Gate program? A unified Earth along with other planets to fight new other-worldly threats?” That’s one of the things that I asked Martin. I was like, you’re gonna have to– If you’re moving the ball down the court by 14 years, you’re gonna have to know those answers, and you don’t necessarily have to reveal those things in your show. But the problem with Stargate is you got one Gate per planet, and that Gate has to have a location. So, by design, the show has kind of hobbled you in terms of the things that you can do because that Gate is gonna have to be somewhere, and that is gonna be operated by a certain group of people. Also, if you’re gonna wanna tell stories about our universe, in our universe, Stargate still doesn’t exist publicly yet. So, if you do make it public, you risk making the show slightly different because you would have to deal with the geopolitical fallout of something like that were it to be revealed to the public. Are you going to have a road not taken kind of situation where people were killing each other over food, water, and gasoline? Or did they have some kind of a crisis that unified them? I think that that was what the Stargate Revolutions story idea was gonna be about. My hope, Darren, is frankly that Martin gets to tell his story. We get to get sucked into it and to show our love and support for his project all the way. Maybe a little fan service here and there, but really for this one, I think that it’s strong enough on its own and Martin is strong enough as a creator that this one can almost completely be self-contained, and everyone’s gonna love it because he just sits down and entertains you. He does not preach to you. He does not say, “You’re stupid, so I’m gonna telegraph this to you because I don’t trust what you believe.” He says that, “I trust you enough to make your own choices about what this project is going to be and come and take the journey with me.” And if we can make it successful enough by watching, maybe they’ll be able to fill in the gap of the last few years with a couple of different things. Didn’t B5 do an animated series?

Darren Sumner:
Let’s talk about this. B5 did an animated movie recently that was set earlier in the timeline than the last thing that we had seen. Let’s get into this. I wanna talk about the state of Earth and public disclosure. Get into the meat of what Martin’s show is gonna be stepping into if it premieres in 2026, 2027. What’s the state of Earth? But before we get into that, let’s check in here with what’s going on. Sons and Shadows on GateWorld gifted five memberships. Thank you, Jeff.

David Read:
You have to tell me what that is.

Darren Sumner:
You are rad. So glad to be here. These guys now have a month’s paid membership to GateWorld, which will let you do things like see some videos early, get your name in the credits, and just generally support us. And then if you’re in the GateWorld chat, here, I’ll show them again. We have little icons. I took the wonderful icons that a Stargate fan made for us on the forum back in the day, and they are now emotes.

David Read:
Ah! You can create new emojis?

Darren Sumner:
They’re now emotes in the GateWorld chat. So, you have a little Jack, Daniel, Sam, and Teal’c. And if our membership grows, then YouTube will let me upload more little SG-1 emotes.

David Read:
Can I say one? Or do you wanna finish your thought?

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, the last thought before I take it to you is I wanna show you my stats. Go full screen on me. I wanna show you…

David Read:
I am.

Darren Sumner:
This is live traffic on GateWorld.net right now. Usually, on a typical morning where I haven’t published anything new, this will be maybe 60, 70 active users in the last 30 minutes. If I publish a news story, it might go to 100 or 200. If I publish a big news story, it might go to 400 or 500. Wanna see what it is?

David Read:
Active users and–

Darren Sumner:
It’s currently at 1,741.

David Read:
You can do your Leo DiCaprio on the front of the Titanic now.

Darren Sumner:
Blowing up. People are seeing this everywhere.

David Read:
Kudos to you, buddy. I fully support your badges and everything else. I can’t take a cent from people. I can’t do it.

Darren Sumner:
For Dial the Gate, I started this project. You’re not gonna make a dime on what you’re doing.

David Read:
I will stand by it. You wanna support me? Buy a T-shirt. That’s my one exception.

Darren Sumner:
Buy a T-shirt, buy some merch from Dial the Gate’s store.

David Read:
Below, there’s some designs.

Darren Sumner:
And support what David’s doing. Because bringing you all this stuff doesn’t come free.

David Read:
No.

Darren Sumner:
And David does amazing work week after week with his team. And I will say I do wanna make sure that people know we publish Dial the Gate clips on GateWorld’s channel every week. And David does get the lion’s share of that revenue. So, that’s the little bit that we can give back to help support Dial the Gate.

David Read:
And it was only because of you that I existed, so I’m more than happy to get those over to you and give GateWorld kind of a highlight reel. Tommy-DT-Valentine, hey, buddy, from the Companion app.

Darren Sumner:
Tommy. Tommy, we did it.

David Read:
We did it, Tommy, and Tommy’s a daddy. This new show is just a couple days younger than his son, so cute. And the mop of red hair, the apple does not fall far from the tree. Super excited for this. He says, “Do you think this will be 22-episode old school or more like a 10-episode new school thing, Darren?”

Darren Sumner:
OK. Let’s talk about that. OK. Let’s start here. We have to draw the line between our speculation and what we know and what Amazon has disclosed. There’s an announcement video, it’s about seven minutes long, you can watch that. You can read the news story on GateWorld. But this live stream is filled with our speculation, so we’re gonna speculate about what we think might shake out in terms of the episode count. I think that they’re gonna get a bigger budget. It’s gonna be like the other streaming shows, prestige streaming series that you love or watch, which is that it’s gonna have a lower episode count and a bigger budget. So, Brad talked about the fact that …

David Read:
It would stand to reason.

Darren Sumner:
… they’re gonna have money to spend on visual effects and be able to do things that he– Martin would come in to Brad’s office on Stargate Atlantis and say, “I got this really cool idea, can we do it?” And Brad would have to say, “No, it’s not in the budget. We can’t afford the visual effects work.” Or, “Yes, trim it down.” And we got some amazing work. We got the battle over Asuras in “Be All My Sins Remembered.” We got that minute-long visual effect shot of …

David Read:
The nuke? Going down over–

Darren Sumner:
… the first strike.

David Read:
That was the longest VFX shot in the entire franchise. And …

Darren Sumner:
That’s a minute …

David Read:
… Joel’s music is on top of it.

Darren Sumner:
… or longer.

David Read:
It is.

Darren Sumner:
And that’s Martin. Martin conceived of this long visual effect shot of the Apollo launching its …

David Read:
Payload.

Darren Sumner:
… nukes. And you follow the missiles as they go down to the planet, on the Replicator planet, and splits into pieces, and detonates on the surface.

David Read:
Boy, did we bat a beehive–

Darren Sumner:
That’s an expensive VFX shot because it was so long. So, more money, but fewer episodes. We don’t know the episode count. We don’t know if it’s 8 or 10 or 12 or what. But I’ll bet money that it’s not 22.

David Read:
No, I think that 22 is unrealistic, Tommy. And I think that you would probably agree in that circumstance. I am hoping that it’s gonna be 12, maybe 10. One of the benefits of a fewer-episode order is you’re picking the best ideas that you have had for that year to complement that continuing story. And I think the last few years have proven in terms of television that you get, in many cases, greater quality storytelling as a result. But having said that, this is a group of people that we’re talking about that produced 40 television series a year for three years.

Darren Sumner:
40 episodes.

David Read:
And 30 of them, I would put in at a moment’s notice and rewatch. But I don’t think they’ll put themselves through that again. But I would love around 10, 12.

Darren Sumner:
We’re living in a space where, as our friend Jenny Stiven has put it, it’s the rebirth of the miniseries. I grew up in the ’80s watching miniseries like V that would run for a week, and it’s an hour or two every night for five nights. Or Taken on Syfy Channel, I think was two weeks long. That’s what the 10-episode big-budget prestige streaming series is, it’s the rebirth of the miniseries. And it’s a new format for Stargate. It’s a new format, and it’s a particular canvas to tell a story on. You know the amount of minutes you have to work with. You know how much money you have to work with. And if it’s, let’s say, 10 episodes, you’ve got a story that’s gonna unfold in this space. And I’m really looking forward to seeing what Stargate can do on that particular canvas.

David Read:
That’s right. Tommy actually asked a second question that I know the answer to. “Dial the Gate, do we know if any elements of Brad’s pre-COVID pilot will feature in Gero’s pilot?” No. Brad, I asked him that question specifically on our first Zoom talk, and he said, “No, Amazon passed on that one.” This is Martin Gero’s story. All eyes are on him. So, the hall is rented, the orchestra is engaged, and Martin’s gonna dance. And it’s his time to shine. So, Brad and Joe are gonna support his vision. If we want to see more Stargate, it’s up to us to support him too.

Darren Sumner:
Over on GateWorld, Whitney Nolan joined. Thank you, Whitney, for being a supporter on GateWorld. Let me scroll down here. We got our first Superchat. I don’t think I’ve ever had a Superchat before. Astria4157, thank you for the $10 Superchat. Astria says, “This is what we’ve been waiting for for years. I can’t believe they’re giving us exactly what the fandom has been begging for.” Couldn’t have said it better myself.

David Read:
That’s exactly right.

Darren Sumner:
And Free90Fly also gave a GateWorld membership. Thank you so much.

David Read:
RetroBadgerGaming, “David and Darren, do you know if Stargate Origins will be considered canon officially?” I asked Martin that question as well, and he said, “It’s in the past, so sure.” And that’s a quote. A lot of fans don’t consider it part of continuity. I take umbrage with that because Kieran Dickson and I consulted on the script with Sam Toles, and we deliberately put in components from the show, specifically the tomb.

Darren Sumner:
You put in elements from SG-1? Did you guys put in the idea of harcesis?

David Read:
Yes, they were saying that they wanted to do this, they wanted to have a Goa’uld with a child. “That doesn’t happen, but you can do this. There is a thing called a harcesis.” And they actually wrote that into the dialogue, and the other thing was, they were telling a story about the Germans, and it makes sense that the Germans would know about this. This is a quick aside, because in the tomb, Daniel says that the Red Army stole back the Egyptian DHD from the Germans during the sacking of Berlin. Since Origins was set before that, they put in a line, at my request, that one of the Nazi officers says at the site of Abydos, “It looks just like the one in Berlin.” So they deliberately put stuff in there …

Darren Sumner:
That’s a great little–

David Read:
… to hang the story on it. If you go through Catherine’s book, there’s a symbiote. And I’ll post the photo at some point. It’s all of a piece. Let me see here. Marcia Middleton–

Darren Sumner:
Sorry, I was gonna follow up. I consider Stargate Origins canon.

David Read:
I do.

Darren Sumner:
And it’s almost the sort of story where if you watched it, you know how it ends. It almost doesn’t matter if it’s canon or not.

David Read:
Yep.

Darren Sumner:
Because it’s backstory and it doesn’t affect anything that comes later. It’s contained.

David Read:
Self-contained.

Darren Sumner:
The way that they told the story is self-contained in a nice little way.

David Read:
That’s it. Marcia Middleton, “Do we have any estimate on how long it may take before episodes will be ready for us to view?” I would say less than a hamster’s lifetime. Any news regarding the theater–

Darren Sumner:
How long do hamsters live?

David Read:
Two years.

Darren Sumner:
I should know this. My kids have hamsters.

David Read:
There you go.

Darren Sumner:
I said in my video that I was anticipating a 2027 premiere.

David Read:
I think that that’s fair.

Darren Sumner:
Could be faster. That’s possible.

David Read:
If they fast-track it.

Darren Sumner:
MGM did a sci-fi show recently, for their streaming platform, cable channel, MGM Plus. They did the Lena Headey show, sci-fi show. Did you watch that one? Beacon 23? It was a flash in the pan, but they announced it, they shot it, and it was streaming in six months. And then they did a Season Two, and it came and went. They put that out really fast. And that was a high-production-quality show. So, if Prime Video wants to kick it out fast, they have the resources to kick it out fast.

David Read:
Yep, absolutely. Jakub, randallwong7196 and LalondeFilms, “Any info where the production will take place?”

Darren Sumner:
Back to Vancouver?

David Read:
They’re still deciding.

Darren Sumner:
Good question.

David Read:
It would be great. It would make a lot of sense to do Vancouver, because I can understand if they might be reticent to pick Vancouver because those backgrounds are Stargate, but also that’s not necessarily a bad thing for some of it to be rooted there. At the same time, you can do anything with technology like the volume, with some assistance from AI, which I know folks like John Gajdecki are using. They’re using AI through Amazon on his series House of David. We recently did an episode with him on Dial the Gate, where they shot humans and then gave the humans to the AI, and then the AI presented a scene, and in many cases, they created two, and then they picked the one that was best. And even the ones that were AI, they went over with visual effects artists and cleaned up the artifacts. So, they’re melding these technologies together at this point to truly tell whatever story they want. And we’re moving forward in such a way that I think we really can meld the best of machine technology with the human artist. So, they can do anything that they want.

Darren Sumner:
I’m one of those viewers who is really nervous and cautious about AI. I don’t want AI creating scripts or reproducing Jack O’Neill at the age of 40. But you can use AI tools to clean up visual artifacts and fix the picture, and it’s amazing as a tool. It’s amazing. Let me go back to chat here. Guys, use @gateworld if you wanna flag a message to make sure that I see it. You don’t have to give us money. I appreciate it so much, but just flag @gateworld. We’re getting some more donations, and again, because Dial the Gate is an expensive project and David doesn’t take money for doing it, I wanna split everything that you guys are donating with Dial the Gate. We’ll work, he’s shaking his head, but we’ll work it out behind the scenes.

David Read:
No. No, it’s the same thing as if I took the money. That’s my whole point. I’m not gonna take the money. Thanks, y’all.

Darren Sumner:
No, it’s gonna be from GateWorld.

David Read:
You know what? You rat bastard.

Darren Sumner:
Luck Shadow gave us 10 bucks. Thank you, Luck Shadow. They say, “I hope they move Stargate Command from the US Air Force to the US Space Force.”

David Read:
You know where US Space Force is operating right now? Cheyenne Mountain.

Darren Sumner:
Is it really?

David Read:
Yes.

Darren Sumner:
They have a broom closet?

David Read:
I hope they still have that broom closet. It makes sense for the Space Force to be involved.

Darren Sumner:
Whitney Nolan gave us another $4.99. Thank you, Whitney. You don’t have to keep giving money, just @ me so I see your message. “Did they give any idea of timeline? Thank you, Darren and David, for always carrying the torch for Stargate.” And then let’s see, Mr. N Bridger, €100. My goodness. My goodness, thank you.

David Read:
Is that a lot?

Darren Sumner:
Best news of the year. “Huge thanks to Darren for GateWorld and to David for Dial the Gate, and for your help with the Daedalus plaque.” What’s the Daedalus plaque?

David Read:
OK. So I have the USS George Hammond plaque in my dining room. And this guy wrote me, and he said, “Can I please get exact measurements from you for the Hammond plaque?” I think he wants to recreate it or something. And I hemmed and hawed, and I’m like, “OK, I’ll try.” And I threw it into my phone and I said, “When I get a chance to.” And a couple of days later, I got out my measuring tape and I took iPhone photos of it all over at different dimensions. And when Lee Webb over at Propworx gave me his photo library of the entire Stargate archive, which I was happy to pay for, it had the images of the Hammond plaque as well, so I was able to get him the actual ones of that so he can recreate it. These things are meant for all of us, and that was really cool to be able to do that for somebody, ’cause people wanna recreate a lot of this stuff. Can I just share something? The technology that has come since the show ended is extraordinary, and I’ve gotta show you something that’s extraordinary. This is Brice Ors. His YouTube channel is IBREC, it’s India, Bravo, Romeo, Echo, Charlie. And he is a brilliant artist, and he used Unreal 5 to bring the Atlantis Gate room to life. And this is 500 or 600 hours of work. The guy …

Darren Sumner:
This is so incredible.

David Read:
… is unparalleled. This is a virtual environment that you can use in VR, and he’s called it the Pegasus Project. And of course, it makes sense. So, the amount of detail that he has put into this is extraordinary. If you wanna talk about digital sets, bro, we’re here, and we’ve only been here for the last little while. So, the fact that some of this stuff can exist now, I’ll put a link in the description below to all of the stuff that we’re talking about here, is possible for us now. The fact of the matter is that they can recreate anything that they wanna create, and there are plenty of fans who will be more than willing, like Brice, to put their time and energy into things like this to make it happen. So, if you’ve got shows like this Babylon 5 trailer, obviously the show is well put together and animated, and that’s all that I’m gonna show. We can have all kinds of things after this thing becomes a huge success, but they’re not gonna happen if this thing isn’t a huge success. But somehow, I doubt that will be a problem.

Darren Sumner:
Amazon needs to see the fans are there for Stargate.

David Read:
That’s it.

Darren Sumner:
Let’s see. GTA V Exclusive TV, “Do you think it’ll be one story per season or more standalone stories?” More of the arc-based storytelling? Or like Strange New Worlds where they’re doing traditional episodic television?

David Read:
If it’s gonna feel like Stargate, it’s gonna have all of that. It’s gonna be a hybrid, I think is the word that they use. You have episodic stuff. That doesn’t mean that you can’t have a serialized story if you wanted to, while at the same time telling episodic stuff. There’s a few shows that have done that really well. I’d never seen it before in sci-fi really well done until Enterprise did it with Season Three, the Xindi arc. It’s one of my favorite seasons of any television show. It was so good. There were so few duds in there. So, you could tell an ongoing story with an ongoing threat, and episodic weaved in. And I hope that they do a hybrid.

Darren Sumner:
I would like to see — I’ve made no secret about the fact that I love the way that SG-1 and Atlantis did their storytelling originally, and SGU maybe to a lesser degree, because SGU was deliberately more serialized. But with the SG-1 and Atlantis formula, there were big story arcs, like the fight against the System Lords, the fight against the Wraith that you kept coming back to, and you knew that there were gonna be tentpole episodes in a season. You were gonna get a “Serpent’s Venom,” you were gonna get an “Exodus,” the show was gonna come back to those storylines. But in between, there were wonderful standalone episodes. Now, if we end up with 10 a year, I think there’s gonna be more focus on the arc. There’s gonna be more focus on that–

David Read:
You mean 10 a year or 10 a season?

Darren Sumner:
10 a season. If there’s 10 a season, then you have less space to work with. Unless you go episodic like Strange New Worlds, you have less to do, to play with Episode Three or Episode Nine is gonna be more of a standalone. I think if the episode count really is as low as we think it’s gonna be or suspect it will be, I think it’ll be more serialized.

David Read:
Yeah, for sure. And I think that that’s a great way to make it work. Let me pull up a couple here. Ah, lost my page. Perfect. Kevin, one for both of us, Darren. Maybe more for you.

Darren Sumner:
OK.

David Read:
“Will GateWorld’s podcast be revived for the new series, or are you gonna maintain a place on your live channel here? What’s your thought process on the podcast?”

Darren Sumner:
That’s a great question.

David Read:
Or is one the other?

Darren Sumner:
It might end up being a hybrid of both. ‘Cause we have YouTube now, which, when we were doing the GateWorld podcast, we did not have a YouTube channel. So it remains to be seen. I would love to revive it. My most recent co-host was Adam. Adam, I hope you’re watching. Thank you, brother.

David Read:
Hey, Adam.

Darren Sumner:
… and if Adam’s not ready to do it, and you’re busy with Dial the Gate, then I might need to find somebody else to host a weekly episode chat to talk about the show as it’s on.

David Read:
Do you wanna talk about, before we get too deep into this, about where we’re looking to get some assistance? Or do you wanna put that off a little bit?

Darren Sumner:
No, let’s do it now.

David Read:
OK. All right, very good. We have a lot on our plates because circumstances have changed. I don’t know if you’ve noticed.

Darren Sumner:
There’s a lot going on now.

David Read:
Just a wee bit, and Darren, what is it that you’re looking for?

Darren Sumner:
So, moving forward for GateWorld, as we’re moving into a new era where there’s a Stargate series in active production, GateWorld has been a one-man show for a long time. Adam stepped back from creating content on the regular. We have occasional guest writers who will come in and do a feature article or will join me for a livestream. Jeff’s done that. Martin McClean’s done that. You’ve done that. I’m gonna have Allan Gowen from Ausgate here in a couple of weeks. But I wanna build a team. And guys, you’re out there. If you’re on this livestream, or you’re watching it after the fact, you care enough about Stargate to be a part of the fan community, and hopefully the fan creator community. So, David and I are both looking for folks to join our respective teams. And on GateWorld, I’m looking for writers. I’m looking for people who wanna write news stories for the website, who wanna write feature articles, not necessarily about the new show even, but write feature articles that look back on Stargate that you love. We’ve got an episode guide that is missing a lot of content, so if you wanna write summaries of past episodes of particularly SG-1, the earlier seasons of SG-1, you can write episode summaries. Also, if you have a nice, beautiful face, or an OK face even, we’ll take it. For some on-camera talent, if you wanna hop on a livestream with me and talk Stargate, maybe we’re gonna discover a new crop of Stargate fans who wanna be a part of what we’re doing on these two channels.

David Read:
Maybe?

Darren Sumner:
I think it’s gonna happen.

David Read:
I think so too.

Darren Sumner:
I’m optimistic.

David Read:
I think so.

Darren Sumner:
But you know what? Doing more livestreams here on GateWorld now and looking at a livestream with 619 people in it, boy, I sure could use some help modding.

David Read:
Woo, woo, woo. Good for you.

Darren Sumner:
If anybody is in the room right now and is interested in being a mod, it requires you to be available and then watch the chat and help organize things and knock out people who post anything that they shouldn’t say. You know what a moderator is.

David Read:
That’s it.

Darren Sumner:
And then graphic designers, you can tell from looking at GateWorld, that is the full extent of my graphic design skills. You can tell by looking at my channel thumbnails. That is the full extent of my graphic design skills. I’m giving it everything I have. I bet you can do better if you have graphic skills. So, lemme know at [email protected] on email, or you can go to gateworld.net/contribute and read more about contributing to the site. Whether you’re writing, whether you wanna be a podcaster, be on stream, make a video, be a chat mod. The sky’s the limit. There’s so much to do, and there’s so much renewed enthusiasm about Stargate now that there’s a new show coming.

David Read:
That’s it. If you wanna help me, bloody darn it, I didn’t put our emails under this. So that’s a mistake. So, if you wanna refresh your screen for the description below, it’ll say, “Come be a part of the Dial the Gate team.” Email David at [email protected]. I should probably tell you what I’m looking for first. I have 500 hours of interviews with the cast and crew of 344 episodes of television, and I have had a team of people, extraordinary people, I’m talking to you, Antony and Jakub and everyone else who has made this possible. Every one of those episodes has all the chapters broken down in them. So, every topic from every show has been discussed. And they need to be mined so that people can get a new Stargate story every day, and I can’t do that on my own. I need someone who is passionate about the history of the franchise to go into that legacy content, see the clips that we’ve created, because there’s 150 or so in there now, and that is the template. They’re 8 to 10 minutes long, and they’re a select story or a couple of stories from someone who was a part of production. And a thumbnail artist for that as well. We’ve got a template. That’s the main thing that I would need is to punch out a daily clip because we have banked enough content now that there’s interesting stories to be told that really need to get out there a little bit better. On top of that, the other part of making this an archive is the fact that you can go to dialthegate.com, and Frederick Marcoux over at ConceptsWeb, he’s working on a new design which will incorporate a lot of this. Transcribers. About half of all of the interviews have been transcribed. We need more of that. We have some tools that are making the process faster, but the fact of the matter is, I need people who can go in, who are good with English, and fill in those details so that it’s searchable and indexable for the future. The whole point of Dial the Gate is to try to archive these stories for the future. It’s the Stargate version of the Archive of American Television, which is what I looked at as the benchmark. These long-form, multi-hour retrospective interviews with these folks, and some of them don’t have a lot of Stargate. Bonnie Bartlett, her second one doesn’t have Stargate at all, but we wanted Bonnie’s story because she’s a part of the franchise. Even if just for one episode, I don’t care. That’s one of the big things that I’m looking for. Ship modelers, FBX. I have no idea what that is. I think it’s an image file type. EagleSG knows more about it. EagleSG, Matt, you did an amazing job with the Hammond flying over at the beginning. It’s the same one we used for the Remembering Don S. Davis episode. Go check it out if you wanna see me cry like a really sad person at the end. But we have ships in that are …

Darren Sumner:
Hey, give the people what they want.

David Read:
… not in our inventory that we really need to see fly. We just finished an Ori ship recently. We need people who can create some of these spaceships to fly through the scenes because we want more ships to fly. We need some Asgard ships. I think EagleSG is working on the X-301 right now because next season, I wanna take these ships and recreate scenes from the franchise. I wanna show the X-302 with the Stargate hanging off the bottom of it as O’Neill just keeps falling. I wanna start playing around with the sequences for the opening and closing to give people something to enjoy. So, ship modelers, graphic designers, 2D and 3D animators, I think that also folds back into some of the other stuff that we’ve got planned. I just relaunched today, or last night rather, a preview of Stargate Auction Diary with footage from the Stargate being taken apart from Bridge Studios. We were there for that for a week.

Darren Sumner:
That was amazing.

David Read:
It was really cool. I saw the gear that turned the damn thing for the first time.

Darren Sumner:
I’ve never seen anything like that.

David Read:
That was custom-built for the show. Richard Hudolin designed Stage 5 so that that ring could get through the doors diagonally. And on top of that, I’m also creating the definitive Stargate timeline to catch people up. This has been in the works for almost two years now. I want some of the cast to contribute. Gildart Jackson, who does Fireside Reading over at YouTube, he reads classic stories with that amazing voice of his. He played Janus …

Darren Sumner:
Stargate fans know him as Janus.

David Read:
… Janus in “Before I Sleep.” I put the first minute and a half of that timeline, which is gonna be hundreds and hundreds of entries, for you guys to see. And it made sense that Janus would have that information, so he went into his booth and you can see that there.

Darren Sumner:
That’s so amazing. I’m really excited about that project.

David Read:
I was surprised at how many people were saying, “We want more of this.” It’s gonna be slides. And a few months ago I was like, “OK, how granular do you wanna make this? If we do do this, do you also want me to go through and say, ‘Eli was born in 1983. Matthew Scott was born in 1981.'” And everyone was like, “All of it.”

Darren Sumner:
I think it’d be 11 hours long.

David Read:
“Do it, all of it.” I’m like, “OK, if that’s what you guys want,” in a huge way. And then on top of that, my moderators, I love you, you’re awesome. You’re gonna need some help, guys. So I do need some moderators as well, who are willing to come in and rotate, who are willing to have fun. The community that we have built and that, Darren, you’re gonna start to build, is so much fun.

Darren Sumner:
Fun. It’ll be fun.

David Read:
They enjoy being together. It’s almost like it’s all coming around a show that makes you feel good inside and sends out positive vibes, rather than makes you wanna crack your neighbor’s skull with a guitar.

Darren Sumner:
I don’t know what that’s a reference to, but OK.

David Read:
It’s getting weird out there, so I think it’s more important than ever that we have places like this where we can get together and share ideas and talk about the things that we love. I live in Nashville. That’s probably where that came from. And we’re on a journey that’s going to go places.

Darren Sumner:
So, guys, if you’re interested in joining the GateWorld team, email [email protected] or go to gateworld.net/contribute. If you’re interested in joining the Dial the Gate team, email [email protected].

David Read:
Thank you.

Darren Sumner:
Did I get that right?

David Read:
You did indeed.

Darren Sumner:
Back to the chat. We’ve got 10 bucks from williamaron7138. Thank you, William. William says, “Will this new production center on renewing the original SG-1 series or will all three Stargate franchises”–I think you mean all three Stargate series–“be included or at least referred to?” And then I have, let’s see, $20 from buffalo9393. Thank you. buffalo9393 says, “This is genuinely the best news I’ve heard in so long. The fact that they’re bringing it back right and the original creators are on board. So excited to see the Gate open again, I could cry. I grew up on Stargate. Thank you.” And one more. musicalcure, $10, “Thank you, guys, for keeping it going.”

David Read:
You’re welcome.

Darren Sumner:
It’s been our pleasure. It’s been our joy to cover this franchise …

David Read:
I do it for free …

Darren Sumner:
… in and out for so many years.

David Read:
… gladly.

Darren Sumner:
Thank you, man. Thank you, everybody.

David Read:
Jeremy Heiner: “Do you foresee any future involvement between you and Darren in the upcoming show?” I have no idea what’s gonna happen next. Darren writes news. He looks forward. I look backward at it as an archive, and we meet in the middle. So if they were to offer me something, I’d… Where’s my plane ticket? I’ll go on foot.

Darren Sumner:
We had the joy of visiting the set annually …

David Read:
Oh God, what a privilege.

Darren Sumner:
… for several years. And I think the idea has already been floated, depending on where they end up shooting this, that we might have a chance to visit set. And again, talk to as many people as we can for you guys, shoot as much stuff as we can for you guys, and bring it straight back to our channels to show everybody.

David Read:
jakedrake3660, “Do you think they’ll make physical Gates or possibly even use the fan Gate that’s set up somewhere in France right now?” The EMG, Les Enfants of MacG — I butchered that.

Darren Sumner:
Children of MacGyver.

David Read:
Is it Children of MacGyver? This thing is… Should I show it? Dude.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah.

David Read:
This thing, oh my God. So, Stargate, Dial the Gate Episode 250, we showed them creating this thing, and it’s not gonna load for me, is it? Let me pull this up here real quick. Come on, guys, your website broke on me. You had one job. They have recreated painstakingly the SG-1 Milky Way Stargate from almost nothing. It’s an international project, there we go, based in Switzerland, and it’s extraordinary. It does everything but spin, which is too bad because spinning is so much cooler than not spinning. But the fact of the matter …

Darren Sumner:
So much better.

David Read:
… is that it’s real, and now they have a puddle for it. I had the guys on for the 250th episode who created it, who sat there and talked with us about making this thing for fans, and it’s absolutely perfect. Go to Episode 250, and you can click on the chapter icons there.

Darren Sumner:
1:1 to scale, replica Stargate. Astounding project.

David Read:
… 1:1 scale. It’s extraordinary. It’s even made with turkey trays on the inside to reflect the lights, I think, under the chevrons, which is the same thing that they used on the show. And there’s a video in there that’s five, six, seven minutes long that shows how they did it. All the chapters, like I said before, are broken down so you can jump to that point and watch it. Quinton, Ian, it’s extraordinary work. These guys, they spent thousands to make this thing. They’re true fans. And I really hope that Amazon finds a way to recognize them for this thing, because they are like us. They believed that this show could come back and it still meant something to people. They saw it as more than a doorway to other places. They saw it as a doorway to the mind.

Darren Sumner:
Keep it coming, guys. Flag us if you have questions. We also have a document that we haven’t gotten to yet, with a bunch of things that you were gonna talk about. I haven’t even opened it yet. There’s so much going on, but let’s–

David Read:
Can I address this real quick? Someone asked me a personal question. Is that OK?

Darren Sumner:
Yeah.

David Read:
IndijojoFoe, “David, brother, first off, you’re looking great. How much weight have you lost and what is your secret?”

Darren Sumner:
Looking trim.

David Read:
Someone noticed.

Darren Sumner:
My boy is looking tight.

David Read:
I’ve lost 100 pounds since February. And it is not Ozempic. It is 5Ks every other day and lots of starving.

Darren Sumner:
Wow. Eat less, exercise more.

David Read:
That’s it. Who knew? Diet and exercise. So it’s almost as if this is a gift for reaching my own 200.

Darren Sumner:
You look great, and I’m still …

David Read:
Thanks, man.

Darren Sumner:
… publishing Dial the Gate clips from earlier in the year. You can tell in that short span of a month.

David Read:
I see what you’re saying.

Darren Sumner:
You get …

David Read:
There’s less of me every time. All right.

Darren Sumner:
… less and less.

David Read:
What else do we have to talk about here?

Darren Sumner:
Let me catch up on Superchats here. People have some comments and questions for us. If YouTube will cooperate. DidWeDoMusicAlCure, $10. “Thank you guys for keeping it going.” Come on, click. I’m scrolling past somebody. Zombiedude25 gave us 20 bucks. “Darren and David, thank you for everything you do and have done to keep this alive.” That’s incredible. Thank you. Thank you, friend. jeremiahsheiner, $20. “Thank you. Thanks to you and David for keeping the light on for the last 20-plus years. I was too young to be part of the community when SG-1 was first released, but I am ready and able to be part as an adult.”

David Read:
The number of people here who grew up on this show, your kids have seen it now. They watched it correctly. Irushian, “With Dean Devlin being involved, does it mean that there will be a movie as well as a series? I thought he was only interested in movies and not TV shows.” He’s interested enough apparently to be an executive producer on Martin Gero’s project, so they’re cooking something in the oven.

Darren Sumner:
Is this with Roland?

David Read:
Hmm?

Darren Sumner:
So, Dean is doing TV now. The question was about Roland?

David Read:
The question was about Dean.

Darren Sumner:
Dean’s production company did Leverage and they did The Outpost, and now they’re doing The Ark with SG-1’s Jonathan Glassner. Dean has plenty of TV experience.

David Read:
That’s right. ThPerryS, “Any news regarding Peter DeLuise’s involvement?” Peter may have found out the same time that you guys did. A lot of folks, it was that way. Arnaudgerard– OK. Let me see here. Tommy Valentine, “What are some of your wants for a new show?” I want something new. I want something original, and I want them to feather in elements from the past. That’s what I want because I trust the people who came before to do it again, ’cause Martin’s been batting 1,000. Should we go through what it is that we’ve got to wrap things up? There’s so many talking points that we have not spoken of.

Darren Sumner:
Yeah. Let’s go through our talking points …

David Read:
We’ve been going now for an hour and a half.

Darren Sumner:
… and see where we’re at, ’cause we have more stuff to cover. Zombiedude25 gave us 20 bucks, and then I think 20 bucks again. 40 bucks, “Keep up the amazing work, Darren and David.” Thank you, brother. Guys, again, you guys don’t have to give us money. We appreciate it so much. We appreciate the support, but you don’t have to give us money. Just @gateworld or @DialtheGate in chat to flag a message for us. What’s in our document that we haven’t touched on yet?

David Read:
Why now?

Darren Sumner:
Why now?

David Read:
There was this little pandemic that caused problems. There were some strikes.

Darren Sumner:
There was a writers’ strike. And we’ve covered that on the channels over the last five years, that Stargate was teed up, and then there was a delay, and teed up, and then COVID, and then teed up again, and maybe this is gonna move forward, and MGM decides to sell the company, and you have to wait and see what the buyer wants to do.

David Read:
These things take years.

Darren Sumner:
So, why the delay? There’s lots of good production reasons, and then I was also really interested to hear Martin tell us that he’d been working on this for 18 months to two years, that he’s been developing this and pitching it.

David Read:
And no one knew.

Darren Sumner:
And no one knew.

David Read:
It was a blind spot.

Darren Sumner:
We were over here on YouTube complaining about how Amazon was not doing anything.

David Read:
Man, fans are not …

Darren Sumner:
Meanwhile…

David Read:
… gonna be happy, Amazon, with what Amazon’s pushing out. You know what? Wrong. Absolutely. Amazon’s pleased with the viewership numbers. That’s one of the things that they told him. People are watching the show.

Darren Sumner:
Stargate’s streaming on Prime Video. All the old shows, new viewers, people are binging it.

David Read:
Familiar faces that we love to see. Confusions.

Darren Sumner:
And we knew they were taking pitches. They were taking multiple pitches from multiple sources over–

David Read:
Michael Greenburg pitched.

Darren Sumner:
Presumably a few rounds. We don’t know where it’s gonna film yet. It would be great if it was in Vancouver, because again, there would be that access to all those familiar faces from Stargate, in front of the camera and also behind the camera. David, you’ve spent five years documenting production history and interviewing a lot of the folks behind the camera. How wonderful would it be to get them back on a Stargate show behind the scenes?

David Read:
There’s so many great …

Darren Sumner:
All that institutional memory.

David Read:
… people involved in this thing, I just can’t tell ya. So many of these wonderful faces, but many of them behind the camera, who’ve been so brave to come on and swing in the wind out there with me on a livestream that you can’t keep on because of something here and there. It’s really been wonderful. One of the things that we haven’t really addressed is what territory is left to explore in a franchise where you’ve done 354 stories. What territory will simultaneously, on top of that, entice new viewers? Our world is a different place technologically, socially, how we communicate with each other. Jakub and Antony, they sent me this, and of course it’s being slow as a …

Darren Sumner:
While you’re pulling that up, let me …

David Read:
… sloth at DMV.

Darren Sumner:
… say about Earth, about the current state of Earth. Again, Martin’s language, Martin Gero, the language that he’s used to describe the show is its own unique thing, its own chapter in the Stargate franchise. And so my speculation wheels start spinning in my head. And I’m thinking, OK, maybe its own unique thing means it might be somehow separated spatially. It might be a different location. Like Atlantis is in a different galaxy. We might not see much of Earth if the show is not set on Earth. We don’t know that it will be. But then, we went through the video announcement that Prime Video put out this morning that folks can watch on GateWorld, and Martin talks specifically about what he loves about Stargate towards the end of that video. And he talks about how he loves part of the Stargate conceit is that it’s the here and now, it’s the present day, it’s us, and it’s Earth. So there’s that familiarity. And then we go out and have these crazy adventures through the Gate. The fact that Martin’s talking about that, now I’m rethinking my speculation and we might get a show that’s set on Earth. We might see a modern-day Stargate Command, or some sort of international space terminal.

David Read:
That will answer one thing or the other. The J.R. Reed Space Terminal from “2010” was extraordinary. It’s a casino now and all the walls have been blocked off, so the glass on the outside, I would place it there if that thing were open, or recreate that, but our society has changed in so many ways, and I think that is really exemplified by this. This is Eli with the original iPhone, and you can see it in a couple …

Darren Sumner:
There it is.

David Read:
… of episodes in Season One where he’s playing with it, and that was really, I think, a few would argue, a huge change in our society. And that’s how long it’s been. I use that as a measuring stick to suggest that we’ve come such a long way, that there are so much more adventures that can be told, that can be the opposite of Black Mirror. As much as I love it, I think that it’s time for more, not strictly just positive, but thoughtful and uplifting Stargate science fiction, that can happen, and these guys are gonna be the guys to do it.

Darren Sumner:
Over on GateWorld, Marks Minaz, sorry if I’m butchering your name, $20 Superchat just came in, not sure if it was asked. “How many episodes per season? Six episodes per season won’t fly. Need old-school 20-plus episodes. Can’t wait to see what happened to Destiny.” So let’s recap the news for people who have come in while we’ve been talking. But we don’t know the episode count. We’re speculating that it’ll be a lower episode count, like a modern-day prestige streaming series. Hopefully more than 6, but I would guess maybe 10 seems to be the most common for these streamers these days. But the news this morning is that Prime Video has announced they’re doing a new Stargate series. It’s official. It’s been greenlit. There is a pilot script, and Martin Gero from Stargate Atlantis is gonna be the creator and showrunner.

David Read:
Whoop, whoop. The thing that I really wanna know is, are the actors are gonna be in a different decade of their lives when it finishes? I don’t like a new season every three years. And that may be the reality of the situation now. That may be how contracts are written.

Darren Sumner:
The production cycle takes so long?

David Read:
Try to give us something every year. We’ve gone from 40 episodes every 365 days to 10 episodes, almost two and a half times that long. I don’t know why things are that slow. Computer horsepower has certainly improved, but it may be the way that contracts are written, so I hope that that’s not the case, but if that’s the world that we live in now, that’s it. Can I pivot–

Darren Sumner:
Paramount Plus knows that they can have my money as long as they have a Star Trek show on the air. And as soon as Star Trek is gone, I unsubscribe.

David Read:
That’s a great point.

Darren Sumner:
So, whether that is more frequent seasons, or more episodes in a season, or more than one show in production at the same time, Paramount+ knows that if they want my money, they need to give me something new in Star Trek, period.

David Read:
Does that mean that I want a new Star Trek on 52 weeks a year? No. I think we’ve seen what the result of that is. Some people love it, and some people don’t. And I think that there is room for the argument that it’s OK to let something lay fallow for a little while, for those ideas to pop properly, and have them not be stale, and have them not be unpopped, because some of them certainly are. I want to bring up podcasts, if I may, because someone actually already addressed podcasts, and I didn’t do that. One of the things that Darren and I have decided when we went into this is to broaden the tent. We were picked not because of what we’d done, but because of what we represent. We are representatives of a larger fandom, and that is very obvious to us. What we’re doing with this episode is to demonstrate that we want to bring– We have the ability, the technology now to bring in additional voices and additional platforms, and there are other folks who have already established Stargate platforms, and I want to show a fair few of them off to you now. The first one is actually Dial the Gate’s first spinoff show, and this one is my pride and joy. It is– Whoops, sorry guys.

David Read [clip]:
You guys ready?

Martin Gero [clip]:
Yeah. OK, great. Perfect.

David Read:
Let me see here. OK. There it is. It is Wormhole X-Tremists, and this was the spinoff show that I created for Dial the Gate. It is a Stargate re-watch channel. It is live. We play Guess the Episode. But we have you pull up Amazon or your DVDs, and then you share with us the episode on your end, and then we go through and watch it live with you, and then afterwards, we rate it, we tally it together, and we talk about the themes from the show. My co-hosts, Nicole Rodrigues-Galdo and Yvie Cahill, they’re based in London and in Perth respectively, and we go through pretty much every weekend. We sometimes take weekends off obviously because we’re gonna have to take six years to do this, and do two shows. We’re now in SG-1 Season Eight, the early half, and SGA Season One. So there’s a whole back catalog in there, so look up Wormhole X-Tremists. That information will be in the description below. Additionally to that, we have some other podcasts that I wanna bring your attention to. This is the Stargate Fandom Podcast, and these folks are an absolute hoot. Let me pull this up here.

Darren Sumner:
Emily and Alyssa.

David Read:
Emily and Alyssa, that’s right, and they are in Europe going to school for music. They are incredible musicians, and these two take you through different aspects of the show. I’m sorry, I did a thing with them in my car. I’ve created a separate episode to share a lot of these stories from a lot of these podcasts over the next few months here, and I reached out to a lot of these folks and they had no idea what I was doing, but I was gonna be sharing them on this show here. They are really great and you can check them out at Stargate Fandom Podcast. I’ll have links for all these people below when I actually catch up. In addition to that–

Darren Sumner:
Stargate Fandom Podcast, and then also go to GateWorld and just over the weekend I published an interview with these guys. This is two-thirds of the composing team for the Ascended Sound, original music inspired by Stargate, that they composed and had a string orchestra perform. It’s really beautiful.

David Read:
They were inspired by Joel’s music. I’m just gonna insert right here, go check out GateWorld for that article. I’m gonna insert right here. Amazon, if you’re listening, please give us Joel’s music. If I could buy any one thing, if I could do any one thing at Amazon, it would be to inhale all of it and get you guys, the fans, the tracks that you want.

Darren Sumner:
And especially an SGU soundtrack.

David Read:
An SGU soundtrack.

Darren Sumner:
Amazon, we need it.

David Read:
“Air Part III,” when Scott’s woken up …

Darren Sumner:
We will work with you to get that.

David Read:
… by the dust devil and he’s got this pool of water in his face and Joel comes over– I’m getting goosebumps to myself, and Eli’s holding the door open. “Darkness” and “Light” when the shuttle takes off, and “Gauntlet” at the end. We want to support Joel’s legacy. He deserves that. And his student, Neal Acree, is still putting out great music. I would be more than happy to do that, but I need access to it, and it’s something that fans, I think, really want and deserve at this point, because Joel was never given enough attention for what he did. The folks at the studio were always game to promote him, but there were just– I was always disappointed that there weren’t other Stargate interviews with him, and I lost the chance to talk with him about SGU. So, it would be wonderful. Please, Amazon, if you can do that. And I will do it for free. I will be happy to go through and I know all of this stuff, so please. Stargate Fandom Podcast, those two are great. On top of that, Stargate Files, this is a great group of guys. Only one of them was on screen, though. They have probably the largest reach of any. Jeff and Skeeter, they are currently going through the show a little bit earlier on right now, so they’re a little bit behind and they may actually be a more ideal one to grow with because they’re part of a larger, I think, network, aren’t they? If I’m not mistaken?

Darren Sumner:
Yeah, they’ve got multiple shows, …

David Read:
Suns and Shadows.

Darren Sumner:
… multiple projects that they cover, not just Stargate. Stargate Files podcast, they’re doing a rewatch. They watch two episodes every week and then hop on Thursday evenings to talk about them, and they’re headed towards the end of SG-1 Season Four right now.

David Read:
OK, that’s fair. That’s right. And then the last one that I’m gonna bring to your attention is Stargate SG-1 For the First Time. And this one is rather unique, because you have a couple guys here, Brent Allen and Jeff Aiken, and Brent knows the show and Jeff doesn’t.

Darren Sumner:
I love that format.

David Read:
It’s not the first time I’ve seen it done, but they’re the ones who are doing it for Stargate. No, they’re at the end of Season Seven, and how Brent has managed to keep Jeff isolated, I don’t know, but they’re serious. I went on there and they were like, “Now, if you reveal something, you’re really gonna piss us off.” And I was like, “Not doing that.”

Darren Sumner:
That’s true.

David Read:
So, if you wanna go through and watch these two, where you’ve got a Stargate expert and a Stargate virgin, …

Darren Sumner:
Total unsullied.

David Read:
… that’s a cool idea.

Darren Sumner:
I love that format.

David Read:
So, after all of this, go to the description below in the Dial the Gate livestream feed and check out these links. And thanks to all of them who responded to me and went out of their way to provide us with time. You’re gonna be seeing them later on in the Dial the Gate season. We’re gonna talk to each of them more individually in a specific episode, Stargate Podcasts from Around the Web.

Darren Sumner:
Very good.

David Read:
We need to expand this tent. And bring people on board, especially the ones who, before the announcement, were really pushing every way that they could to show how much love and support this show still has. So, thank you, guys.

Darren Sumner:
Jeff from Suns and Shadows cast is in GateWorld’s chat right now.

David Read:
Hey.

Darren Sumner:
Let’s hear it.

David Read:
Boo.

Darren Sumner:
Rising tide lifts all boats, so GateWorld and Dial the Gate have this prominence in fandom right now, but we are looking for ways to share the love. To feature your podcast, feature your Stargate projects, to feature your art if you’re an artist or a cosplayer. If David hasn’t thought of it yet, he will soon. We wanna feature your stuff on GateWorld.net as well.

David Read:
And we have three slots, so Darren and I are taking up two, and when we do future stuff, we’re more than happy bringing other people in, because this is not just about us. We’re not kings of these particular hills. Stargate, we don’t own the show. It’s everyone’s. And you’re gonna see more of that.

Darren Sumner:
I’ve got a couple more Superchats over on GateWorld. SGC Smith gave $20 and says, “GateWorld, long time no see.” “I’m glad Stargate is back. Can’t wait. I hope Amazon will also release the show on Blu-ray to add to my existing collection. I need to rewatch Stargate now. Garry’s Mod SGC clan represent.”

David Read:
That’s right. Juicebowl, “Do we know more details about how important rewatches of SG were for the show’s renewal?” Martin said that Amazon was very happy, and I think that it’s a no-brainer that it was crucial to getting the show picked up.

Darren Sumner:
I think so.

David Read:
Because you guys have done so marvelous in supporting a show that has been essentially inert for 14 years. It’s a slow-burning candle. It’s not been extremely bright, but it has not burned out. It has been steady. And you guys who have discovered it since and watched it and have gone back to watch it, every one of those has made a difference, so thank you.

Darren Sumner:
Engagement online is important. Fan activity is important. Social media is important, but I think the most important metric, if I had to guess, for Amazon, is their streaming numbers, how many people are watching the show right now. And it was the same thing for Syfy Channel, 20-plus years ago. They got the off-network rerun rights to older SG-1, and they started airing them Monday through Fridays and they got really good numbers. SG-1 at five o’clock in the afternoon was outperforming their primetime shows. That was a big factor in getting the show renewed for a Season Six and moved over to Syfy Channel, and then Syfy discovered that when new episodes were airing on Fridays, the reruns also did better. So, I think Amazon’s probably in the same position. They’re looking at their Stargate streaming data all the time, and the better that those classic episodes perform, the more likely they are to continue to invest in the franchise. WilliamAaron7138, $5. Thank you, William. William says, “The world that would include a Stargate has to be better led and more hopeful than our present world has become.” David, you spoke to this earlier. Just the fact that we need a little hope, we need a little optimism in the world. We need some entertainment that is gonna bring us together and not tear us apart.

David Read:
That’s exactly right. We need this, and I think it’s time. There have been a couple of comments that I’ve seen talking about our props that are behind us. Most of what’s here now behind me is made by fans. This USS Hammond is hundreds and hundreds of pieces of styrene that was made– It’s a work of art. And you can go back through the show. Actually, the first episode, 001, we show it. So many of the pieces here are made by a gentleman named Martin McClean, and his website is gatebuilder.tech. I’m sorry, Martin, but I’m not sorry. You deserve all of the attention that you’re about to get. He is a friend of ours. He is an engineer. He’s enthusiastic about the show. This guy makes …

Darren Sumner:
There’s that DHD.

David Read:
… things accurate. Can you show it, Darren?

Darren Sumner:
Here it is in person.

David Read:
Look at that!

Darren Sumner:
That’s Martin’s DHD.

David Read:
But look at the paint job. Can you please go in closer to the glyphs? Please and thank you. Look at that. The painstaking detail, un momento por favor. Lemme go grab it. This is–

Darren Sumner:
So, if you wanna see a full showcase of Martin’s work, we did a livestream with him a couple of weeks ago. Go check that out in the live archive on GateWorld. Martin did most of what’s behind me that is not officially licensed. So, Martin did the naquadah generator. He did the DHD, which we’ll put back right here.

David Read:
And look at this.

Darren Sumner:
He did the Atlantis Stargate stand. And the puddle that’s in the gate.

David Read:
He’s creating stands for the official merchandise that Master Replicas has put out. Do you wanna show the Atlantis stand while you’re at it? While I show this off, please?

Darren Sumner:
The Gate stand?

David Read:
Yes, please. Thank you. This is one of the original DHD glyphs. I don’t know who originally got it, but it found its way to me. Someone offered it to me and was more than happy to have it be a part of the show. The pattern here on the paint is extraordinarily done. And Martin replicated that, and his work is extraordinary. His files are available to people for free. He does custom orders. He built a 3D-printed Stargate that lights up, and what this guy can do with paint is absolutely–

Darren Sumner:
And his DHD dial.

David Read:
Yes, absolutely extraordinary. I cannot give him enough praise. I asked him to create the Touchstone because I always thought that it was awesome. And he’s made blueprints, and the stuff that you can do with what he’s created, if you’re a 3D modeler or a 3D printer person, you can go to gatebuilder.tech and get to work. Did you go grab it?

Darren Sumner:
Yeah. Where is the comment I just saw? I wanna make sure that we’re also highlighting questions from people who did not give us Superchat money. So, Morris QPR asks us, “Do you think they will tie up loose ends from SGU or SGA at some point?” And here’s Martin’s …

David Read:
Wow.

Darren Sumner:
… while you think about that question.

David Read:
Apparently it says something. So, could you put it face-on, or straight forward there? The Ancient language is font substitution. If you go and look at a lot of the stuff on the show, for instance, the Ancient staircase is a poem welcoming weary travelers from other worlds. And Martin says that says something, and I have not taken the time or energy to figure out what it says. Guys, go nuts. Look for the Ancient alphabet online, and there is a font replacement formula for that. I’m very, very interested to know what that says.

Darren Sumner:
I thought he told me that it doesn’t say anything, but I could be wrong.

David Read:
He did. He said, “There’s something hidden in there,” and I wouldn’t be surprised. But those are things that you can get to augment your collection of official merchandise. And that’s, I think, great, where fandom is rising up to meet the content that folks are finally beginning to produce. Master Replicas has been amazing. I have been a fan of Master Replicas since the Star Wars lightsabers, and I’ve got three of them downstairs. And their props are unparalleled. Go and check them out at masterreplicas.com. They have created beautiful works of art that you can buy at very reasonable prices, and they’ve got Destiny on the way. They have a Goa’uld pyramid. I’m not sure why it’s not showing. But there it is. This is Ra’s pyramid from the film. This is a gorgeous model, and Ben has promised to send me one. The work that they’re creating is unparalleled. And there are some really cool things in development that I’ve been sworn to secrecy about, that are just going to be extraordinary. Master Replicas, it couldn’t have gone to a better company, the IP to do an official license.

Darren Sumner:
We’re getting Destiny and Destiny Stargate.

David Read:
Yes, the Destiny Stargate. That’s exactly right.

Darren Sumner:
Coming soon.

David Read:
These Gates are meticulously crafted. They’ve done a great job making them. Let me see if I can pull this up here. Here we go. Check this out. Look at the detail.

Darren Sumner:
The little copper touches around the Gate are just amazing.

David Read:
They’re correct.

Darren Sumner:
I can’t wait to look at this in person.

David Read:
That’s exactly how it is. The Atlantis Stargate is accurate. I’m really hoping that they’re gonna redo the SG-1 Gate. Its thickness is a little different. But what they did was, they looked at the changes and where the changes needed to be made, and they made them in the Atlantis Gate.

Darren Sumner:
They got the Atlantis Gate exactly right.

David Read:
It’s exactly right. Whoops, sorry guys.

Darren Sumner:
So, back to Morris’s question, are they gonna pick up pieces, plot threads from SGU or SGA?

David Read:
Throw it all away. No, I’m kidding. No.

Darren Sumner:
I suspect it’s because Martin has his own story to tell, and it’s gotta be a point of entry for new viewers. I’m going to be on the lookout for dialog hints. Maybe somebody’s gonna mention Eli Wallace. And that’s just– We’re gonna know that Eli’s alive.

David Read:
He’s lost a few pounds.

Darren Sumner:
And he’s back on Earth. But I don’t know that we’re gonna see him, or have any story points that explore what happened to the Destiny crew.

David Read:
Did it come back?

Darren Sumner:
Or Atlantis going back to Pegasus. What’s the status of the fight with the Wraith? I think there’ll be hints of it in some dialog …

David Read:
You’re gonna have to.

Darren Sumner:
… for fans who are aware of that. But those stories are still to be told. And as you said, those can be done in other formats in the future. We could get a one-off movie. We could get a mini-series. We could get an animated movie. I wouldn’t say no to an animated version of the Stargate: Extinction script, which was the follow-up for Stargate Atlantis.

David Read:
Martin and I had a brief conversation the other day, and I don’t think I’m telling tales out of school. He’s been watching. I’ve been trying to get him on the show forever, and he wouldn’t do it. And it really hurt my feelings that my birthday buddy wouldn’t do the show with me, because he’s a wealth of knowledge and information. And now I understand. But one of the things that he said was, he’s been watching, and he’s been listening to what we’ve been saying, and he’s been watching fandom. And one of the things he did tell me, and I think it’s OK to say, is that some of the stuff that we thought has happened, we’re right about. I would imagine it’s very little, but that only makes sense. Because if you’re shooting quivers into a target in the dark, quiver after quiver, you may hit the target, but you don’t deserve to. So, the fact of the matter is that we’ve pitched a lot of ideas over the course of several years here, and sooner or later, one of those is gonna have to be something that they’re probably going to do, because there’s only so many possible permutations that would make sense based on what came before.

Darren Sumner:
I think there will be hints to those story elements, but they’re not gonna be the focus of the show.

David Read:
It shouldn’t be. It shouldn’t be. Not for this one. This one, I want something new for this one.

Darren Sumner:
Not for this one. Something maybe in the future. John Yulden in GateWorld chat gave us £9.99, “Great show, guys. We do a Stargate SG-1 watch party on Sundays on Sci-FiChronicles79, Currently watching Season Three. You’re welcome to join us. The Replicators are not far away.”

David Read:
They are not. Don’t put two of them together. They have a tendency to make more of themselves. Is it on YouTube?

Darren Sumner:
Is it on YouTube, John?

David Read:
I got it. Right here.

Darren Sumner:
We’re gonna find it. There it is.

David Read:
Sci-FiChronicles79. Very cool. I like their artwork. See, this is the reasons that I need people to do that, ’cause I’m not good at that. I’m gonna have a look at them here.

Darren Sumner:
Lots of rewatches happening on YouTube.

David Read:
What’s coming up?

Darren Sumner:
In the audio podcast space. There’s so much going on.

David Read:
Look at this, watch parties. See, there is so much Stargate content that’s been banked, and there’s all kinds of people that you can go and meet up with, and talk with online. I love their setup. John, Brian, Gary, “Great job, guys.” Yes, thank you. You are, as George Costanza would say, “I am aware of you.” All right.

Darren Sumner:
Very cool.

David Read:
That’s awesome.

Darren Sumner:
We’re gonna check it out.

David Read:
Fan questions from here. Let me see here.

Darren Sumner:
Nimity327 says, “Maybe we’ll finally get the story behind the Furlings? That will never die.” Who are the Furlings? Where are they right now? That question will never die. Sorry, Rob Cooper. We’re gonna keep asking.

David Read:
I know. The poor guy. Absolutely. I think that they flew. I think they had wings.

Darren Sumner:
I think they came and went. They were part of the alliance and now they’re in another galaxy.

David Read:
Very cool. AndrewCharles-Illustration, “Do you think we’ll get a new Gate for this show?” That’s the thing. If you’re going to not eff around with existing canon, if certain rules do apply, if it was destroyed, do we have enough technology now to make our own? I don’t think so. But certain things like that are gonna have to be answered because logistically there can only be one Gate in the solar system. That’s just how these things are designed, and where is that Gate gonna be? It’s gonna define how Martin’s story is told. In addition to the characters coming back, and some of these story beats, the other one that we haven’t talked about is, and I think it’s a really big one they’re gonna have to address, because it is a capsule of our greatest ally. Where is the Odyssey? What’s happened to her? Within her is the collective memory of the Asgard. Did they find a way to communicate with the Vanir, the evil Asgard in the Pegasus Galaxy, and manage to find a way to help them, convince them, to bring their brothers back so that the Vanir and Aesir, the Asgard, could ascend together again? I really hope that the Roswell Grays are not out of the picture and that they continue to pursue that thread that was laid down. So, that’s a big one for me. A big one.

Darren Sumner:
Those pieces that were seeded. Atlantis was not meant to end with Season Five. There was every intention to do more with the Pegasus Asgard. There was every intention to maybe bring back the parallel universe villains from “The Daedalus Variations.”

David Read:
They did it in the comics. But the broader implication of the Odyssey is probably one of the bigger things that they’re gonna have to address because we’ve advanced technologically so far over those 10 years of SG-1 and Atlantis and Universe. The Odyssey was so powerful. It had Asgard beam weapons, for crying out loud. This ship was indestructible. You’re gonna have to find a way to have the next challenge that Gero’s script is gonna have to rise to that power, or you’re gonna have to hobble our technology in some way where the Odyssey is out of the picture. It may have something to do with the Asgard, like, “OK, we can’t use that ship anymore. We’ve mothballed it because its power reserves are such a way that we can’t replenish it, and we wanna keep the Asgard core preserved for the future.” He can park these things in whatever spaces that he wants and then get into another car, drive it into the street.

Darren Sumner:
He just needs the right …

David Read:
We can go for a ride with him.

Darren Sumner:
… story idea to park it.

David Read:
Exactly. And we can come back to it later when we’ve got the stuff that we want and come and get more. So, I think patience is a virtue.

Darren Sumner:
ScoopyJoe, “I love you, brother. I live in Vancouver and hereby volunteer to snoop on production sets if they film here.”

David Read:
No. No, don’t do that.

Darren Sumner:
When they shoot in public. John Yuled, another £1.99, “More evil Asgard perhaps? Bring back the Asgard.”

David Read:
Yes, 100%.

Darren Sumner:
So iconic to Stargate. They’re so iconic.

David Read:
Those Vanir were so cool. That was a great idea.

Darren Sumner:
It’s only a matter of time.

David Read:
Darren and I are going–

Darren Sumner:
I don’t need to see this one idea.

David Read:
ScoopyJoe, was it? He brought up an idea that I forgot to add to mine. I’m planning on doing more– This may be a pipe dream because I don’t have money. I wanna go to the cities, particularly Vancouver, but also Toronto and LA, and start to shoot in-person conversations with the cast and crew. We have scheduled this fall, a trip to Vancouver where me and Darren, your son, and a couple of others are gonna go to Vancouver. We’re gonna sit down with Tom McBeath and Garwin Sanford. We’re gonna sit down with Jacqueline Samuda. And we’re gonna have them talk with each other, and we’re gonna step back. We’re gonna wind up and let them go.

Darren Sumner:
This is such a great idea.

David Read:
Talk about their characters, talk about their careers, how their fields have evolved, and listen to them for 90 minutes share stories back and forth about their lives. People whom we’ve had on Dial the Gate, we’ve mined the Stargate content with them and I wanna have them back. We need to bring Harry back, is what we need to do. We need to get him off that planet. Tom, I talk with him every once in a while and he’ll sit there… He was the one that made me figure out that we have to do this. He was telling me all these stories about all of the work that he’s done, and he’s so creative and the recording guy in me is like, “We’ve gotta tape this.” I reached out to Garwin and Garwin said, “I’m in.” Michael Greenburg, God bless you, Michael. I don’t know what I did to deserve to have you in my corner, man. He’s trying to help me get some places in Vancouver where we can actually go and film. I don’t really have camera equipment. I got a couple of people who are going to do it. I can’t afford $1,000 a day for a cameraman. I need fans who are willing to volunteer who live near these cities. LA, Toronto, and Vancouver. I want to go and start getting more on-the-ground footage in higher definition because sometimes these livestreams suck, and get some more interesting stories. We have already the promise from– You know what? Let me dovetail that into this. Do you wanna talk about your upcoming slate of episodes or should I and then give it to you?

Darren Sumner:
For the livestreams?

David Read:
Yes.

Darren Sumner:
Why don’t you tell us what you have coming up?

David Read:
What we have coming up —

Darren Sumner:
‘Cause we’re headed towards the end of Dial the Gate Season Five, and I think it’s worth saying.

David Read:
I think they moved the finish line on me, buddy, but yes.

Darren Sumner:
I think it’s worth saying because Martin and Brad and Joe came and dropped this on us in November, Dial the Gate Season Five has been extended …

David Read:
Just a wee bit. Sudden death overtime.

Darren Sumner:
… because they’re super fun to do. But it is coming up.

David Read:
Let’s have a look here. What’s going on here, and this is dialthegate.com. It’s a very simple page right now. You can go here and see our episode archive for everyone that I’ve talked with. I dug up an interview with Elizabeth Hoffman. I haven’t resurrected her from the dead. It was an extraordinary story a couple of years before she passed. These are all of our episodes, and I invite you to go in and make this one of your new long-form listens, because the number of people who have come in to share their stories is just fantastic. But let’s go back to my point here. On the right side is our upcoming slate of shows. Wormhole X-tremists is down here. Hey, that’s where we are right now. But up here, we’re gonna have two round tables over the next couple of days. We alluded to this earlier on, because …

Darren Sumner:
This week. This is–

David Read:
… we wanna celebrate with you guys. This is for all of us.

Darren Sumner:
This is Stargate celebration week.

David Read:
There are a few people in our orbit who have helped us along the way, and we wanna say, come on with us and show us how much you love this. Jenny Stiven. Jenny’s been writing me. Jenny, it’s okay. Jenny has done State of the Gate with us through the entire run of Dial the Gate, and it’s only fitting to have her back, which for what is probably only gonna be one more episode, because now we know the state of the Gate. We deserve to celebrate with her on November the 24th. That’s this coming Monday at 9:00 AM Pacific. But this week, tomorrow, November the 20th at 9:00 AM Pacific as well, Stargate Fandom Roundtable, where we’re gonna have folks come in on Zoom and we’re gonna rotate through them. Sommer and Jeremy, thank you. They have been getting ready. We have made a way to get it to work, because I wanna keep the newsreel feel of this show, where we go back and forth between screens, and I figured out a way to crack it.

Darren Sumner:
You and I are gonna be on. We’re gonna have other fans come through on the virtual couch and spend a few minutes talking with us about their reaction to this news.

David Read:
We have questions to ask them.

Darren Sumner:
And share it with everybody.

David Read:
There are a lot of people who are prominent in the community, and I want you to hear from them. Podcasters out there who I showed you reels of earlier, by the way, you’re invited. Because you went out of your way to submit those reels to me, you guys are gonna come on first and we’re gonna hear your stories this week. But here’s the other thing. There’s some of you that are a group of more than two, I can only have two of each of you. You guys gotta draw straws and then show up for the other guy and talk about how amazing he is, if you have more than two.

Darren Sumner:
Just because of your streaming setup.

David Read:
That’s it. Exactly.

Darren Sumner:
So, you and I were brainstorming a list of people that we wanted to have on the Fans React Livestream, and it quickly got so long that we decided …

David Read:
Two of them.

Darren Sumner:
… we gotta do more than one of these.

David Read:
It makes sense because we’re all in different time zones, so that’s not fair. Australia, they always get shafted, so we’re gonna really make that happen. That first one–

Darren Sumner:
Let’s do a morning livestream on Thursday, and then let’s do an afternoon US livestream on Friday.

David Read:
6:00 PM Pacific Time. I’m gonna start reaching out to you guys as soon as I hang up from you here, because God knows I’m not gonna go to Uber today. I’m gonna work on Stargate. We’re gonna reach out to you guys and make this happen. Poor Michael Shanks. Shanks, dude, you are awesome and you’re probably figuring out today why I texted you last week and moved up your interview by two weeks. You’re probably like, “OK, fine, whatever.” And it’s like, oh, there’s a good reason.

Darren Sumner:
He was gonna be the big finale.

David Read:
He was gonna be my season finale, and then the season finale just went in and erased itself. Michael is going to be with us this Saturday, November the 22nd, at 10:00 AM Pacific Time. This will be his third appearance. You wanna talk about a guy who drinks some ginkgo, his memories are amazing. His stories are wonderful, and he’s gonna share some things that I’ve been asking for, if he can not move furniture in his storage locker too much out of the way, because I’m asking him to pull some stuff out that he’s alluded to on the show. Did you know that for “The Torment of Tantalus,” Paul McGillion wasn’t originally the first hire? Did I tell you this? For Ernest. It was Michael. They did tests.

Darren Sumner:
You did tell me that. They were gonna have Michael play Ernest Littlefield in the–

David Read:
And they were like, “The audience is gonna be too confused. We can’t do it.”

Darren Sumner:
To make that connection, Catherine saw something in him.

David Read:
That’s why she has that line–

Darren Sumner:
But it would have been really confusing.

David Read:
Exactly. There are images of him as Ernest that he has stored away somewhere. There’s the goosebumps again.

Darren Sumner:
That’s amazing.

David Read:
That’s really cool to see. Steven Culp, who played Henry Wallace in Stargate Atlantis: “Miller’s Crossing.” I am a huge fan of him from Enterprise. He’s been in JAG, he’s been in all kinds of things. Boy, Steven, are you gonna… Welcome to the Dial the Gate, buddy.

Darren Sumner:
Jump right in.

David Read:
He’s gonna be on November the 22nd, which is just after Michael, and then we have Wormhole X-Tremists live Sunday, “Endgame” and “The Storm,” and then when we get to the end of a halfway point through these shows, we do a mid-week movie. That’s gonna be Upgrade, a great sci-fi film. I really hope that you join us. That’s a little plug there for Wormhole X-Tremists on YouTube. And then State of the Gate with Jenny, probably our last one, Monday the 24th of November at 9:00 AM Pacific Time. Jenny Stiven is a Hollywood marketing veteran. She’s been in it since DOS. Sorry, Jenny. Don’t kill me. And she is a friend who I owe so much to, and is a huge Stargate fan. If anyone deserves to be a part of Stargate’s marketing in its new ascent, it’s her. And she’s gonna come on–

Darren Sumner:
We wanna give her her own show.

David Read:
And she’s gonna have one last episode.

Darren Sumner:
And not just let her in for five minutes and do a Q&A.

David Read:
That’s right. ‘Cause it was like, “Why don’t we do it?” Exactly.

Darren Sumner:
We’re gonna spend a whole hour with her.

David Read:
Exactly. She’s gonna come on and obviously geek out with us, but also, we’re going to ask her, “OK, you’ve had a few days to digest this. How do these pieces fit together from your perspective? And what can we expect next?” Because she’s really good at establishing expectations that kept us grounded all the way through this thing in terms of COVID, in terms of the strikes. And she always was coming on to clarify, and she deserves to come on at least one more time. If not to come and to have some other kind of capacity with us. She’s just brilliant, so please be there for that.

Darren Sumner:
I asked Jenny to talk me off the ledge more than once, and she did it.

David Read:
She did. We owe her a lot.

Darren Sumner:
OK, before you go over to my schedule —

David Read:
A few episodes coming up. Yes.

Darren Sumner:
There’s a lot. And this week is wall-to-wall, all right? You’re gonna get livestreams every day through Saturday. You have a Dial the Gate show on Sunday.

David Read:
That’s right. I forgot.

Darren Sumner:
Is it on Sunday?

David Read:
My whole point, Vancouver. I apologize, guys. We are going to Vancouver, and we are going to film a Masters Effects tour with Alex Zahara, hopefully. The Todd Masters tour. This is all preliminary, but they’ve additionally agreed to it. The effects team, originally led by the late Wray Douglas, his brother, Kirk Douglas, truly, is going to show us how they made some of the practical effects. And I need personnel, particularly with lighting and with high-end cameras. If you are anywhere near Vancouver, LA, Toronto, and wanna participate in the stuff that’s coming down the pike, I am going to vet you. I’m gonna vet you hard. But email me at [email protected] because I need the help for this. I don’t have the money to generate the quality that we now require for this fandom. And then last but not least, the great Rob Fournier, who has been so amazing on this channel with his knowledge. He is going to give us a P90 firearms training and demonstration when we’re up there. And then these episodes will be released later in the year. If you go to Dial the Gate and you click on the shorts, you’re gonna see me shooting one of the 10 P90s that were used in the show. And my gun etiquette was not the best. I do know how to shoot and didn’t do as good as I should have. And Rob is going to take us through a process of the crash course that he gives for an actor who comes in and is going to handle one of these weapons for the first time.

Darren Sumner:
That’s amazing.

David Read:
Remington Phillips over at sg1props.com. I’m gonna shout him out as well. He has a lot more shooting experience than I do. And we’re going to come together and shoot this. The bottom line is, I need camera people with 4K cameras and lighting and the ability to shoot on gimbals and be flexible. Email me, [email protected], for these three cities, Vancouver, LA, Toronto, and let’s see if we can make some magic together. ‘Cause I need your help, and please help me do it. The fandom deserves these stories.

Darren Sumner:
Fans helping fans.

David Read:
Thank you, Darren. I’m sorry. I was a little winded.

Darren Sumner:
Before you switch over to my schedule, let me catch up on GateWorld’s chat. We’ve got some great questions and Superchats from Stargate fans. Aaron Snyder, “Are we going to get insight or a glimpse to Atlantis now that it’s back on Earth, or is that still not in the picture?” I don’t know that we’re gonna see– Again, as I said a minute ago, I think maybe we’ll get dialogue references to what’s going on with Atlantis, where it is, did it go back to the Pegasus Galaxy, that sort of thing. I don’t expect it to be the focus of the new show. Let’s see.

David Read:
It shouldn’t be the focus.

Darren Sumner:
What else is here?

David Read:
It should be Martin’s thing. I need to make that my bumper sticker.

Darren Sumner:
ZombieDude25, with another $5, “David and Darren, can you tell me what your favorite Tau’ri ship is? Mine is the X-303.”

David Read:
That one. Hammond 05.

Darren Sumner:
The Hammond?

David Read:
And everyone’s like, “It should be 06.” It’s like, no, the Korolev wasn’t a US Air Force ship.

Darren Sumner:
Interesting.

David Read:
You can make that argument. I will always love the Hammond because Peter Bodnarus designed a hell of a ship. They wanted an aircraft carrier, and they got one. What about you, Darren?

Darren Sumner:
For Earth, for what we’ve seen on screen, the F-302.

David Read:
Another Peter Bodnarus creation. Bridget McGuire came in and said, “Who wants to design a star fighter?” And Peter did. Is that the Master Replicas or is that Eaglemoss?

Darren Sumner:
This is Master Replicas. This is Master Replicas’ model of the F-302. It’s one of my favorite of the Eaglemoss Master Replica models. But you know what?

David Read:
Is it plastic, metal?

Darren Sumner:
It’s a combination of plastic and polystone, so it has a little bit of weight to it.

David Read:
So, it’s got some heft?

Darren Sumner:
It’s got some heft, and it’s got a nice metal paint job to it. It looks really cool.

David Read:
Some Stargate merchandise that’s coming available now …

Darren Sumner:
This is one of my favorites of what they’ve done.

David Read:
… is great.

Darren Sumner:
But speaking of Martin’s new show, it’s been how many years since the Daedalus rolled off the assembly line? I would like to see some new ship designs like our buddy Ryan has done with his fan art.

David Read:
RJB Mallacore? Let’s pull him up.

Darren Sumner:
RJB Mallacore has done some amazing Stargate fan art, looking at how the Earth fleet might have evolved over the decades.

David Read:
Check this guy out.

Darren Sumner:
Incredible work.

David Read:
He has done it. And he has gone in, and he has a design philosophy for all of these ships. He’s not just throwing stuff together. He has looked into the design that they created and built out from it. So, over at DeviantArt, you can find him at Mallacore, M-A-L-L-A-C-O-R-E. I’ll put a link to it in the description for him below. He’s brilliant.

Darren Sumner:
Juicebowl with 25 Canadian dollars.

David Read:
Man, Darren, you are cleaning up.

Darren Sumner:
“Thanks for answering my first question. Also, what do you know about newer audiences and younger people picking up the show?”

David Read:
You can speak to that.

Darren Sumner:
I’ve got younger people in my house.

David Read:
Do they like it?

Darren Sumner:
We’ve watched through all of Stargate. I introduced my kids to Stargate. They love it. They’re definitely Stargate fans. They were very excited to hear the news about your show.

David Read:
You never know.

Darren Sumner:
Now we’re moving through the sci-fi classics. We spent the summer on B5, and now we’re on Season One of Farscape. So, there are new fans, and we presume from Prime Video that they’re getting lots of new viewers on streaming as well. And I see it on social media all over the place. I see it on Reddit all the time, people who just discovered Stargate in 2025 for the very first time. And that’s exciting for me, as part of fandom.

David Read:
That’s it. I know it seems like a lot that we’ve thrown at you guys, and it is, but we’re gonna have time to decompress and file all this away. Man, we’re gonna be getting some major REM sleep tonight. Our file cabinets are going to be open.

Darren Sumner:
Can you guys imagine that we’re just scraping the surface here? There’s so much more to talk about.

David Read:
There’s so much more to talk about because I said to you last night, “Can you believe that we’re doing this?” And it’s still not quite real yet. I think now that everyone knows, I feel better about it and not having to lie to my staff by omission anymore, ’cause that was hard. I was hallucinating. I haven’t hallucinated in my dreams since I was a little kid. I called my parents, apparently, the other night and said that I was seeing things pass between my hands like Wanda Maximoff and her balls of red whatever, and I was like, “Dude, this thing has gotta get out.” And I slept last night for the first time well.

Darren Sumner:
Good, that’s what I wanna hear. You’ve been going through the wringer for a long time.

David Read:
It’s for Stargate, so it’s worth it.

Darren Sumner:
And it’s out now.

David Read:
It’s out.

Darren Sumner:
And it’s so great that we get to talk to other fans about this. We get to talk more with Martin and Brad and Joe about this. We don’t know, again, to recap for everybody who’s just joined us, the timeline for the new show going into production. We know that they have a pilot script. They haven’t decided where they’re gonna shoot yet. They haven’t started casting yet, but Martin Gero from Stargate Atlantis has created this show and is gonna showrun it. And it’s gonna be streaming on Prime Video, and it’s everything I could’ve asked for. I’m having a hard time coming up with something critical to say, ’cause it’s everything that we asked for. But timeline-wise, we don’t know. It’s gonna be in production next year.

David Read:
And that’s fine by me. We’re gonna need some time. Thank you, Antony and Jakub for the Eli clip. We’re gonna need some time to assimilate this, and we’re gonna need to give people a chance to catch up on some of the older Stargate content to see if it’s something that they really want to invest in. New fans who are on the landing page for Prime Video now and are going, “Hmm, I heard about that thing with MacGyver once. Oh, yeah.” And it’s like, “Yeah, it was a pretty good show. Come and watch it with us.”

Darren Sumner:
I’ve been doing SG-1 rapid recap videos that I’ll–

David Read:
Yes, they’re great.

Darren Sumner:
I’ll do a recap of a season, and I’ll try and cram it all into 10 minutes, as close as possible. So, they’re really rapid fire, and they’re a lot of fun to do. I’ve done five seasons so far. I am gonna finish the series. But the whole idea behind the series was newcomers are gonna come in, especially after a new show gets announced. They’re not gonna have seen SG-1 yet. Some of them are gonna go to Prime Video, and they’re gonna start streaming episode one right away. They’re gonna watch all 214 hours of SG-1. Other people are gonna go to YouTube and say, “What did I miss?” So, we’re gonna have all 10 seasons plus the movies for SG-1 and then eventually hopefully the other series as well. And then I’m gonna do a super cut. So, there’s gonna be an hour-and-a-half, two-hour-long video with all of it together.

David Read:
At least you’ll have a timeframe now. When they have a release date, you’ll know it. So, you’ll be able to build forward toward it.

Darren Sumner:
I gotta get through this series before it premieres.

David Read:
Exactly right. I can’t wait to see some of the stuff that you’re gonna make. You have always been able to write like I can’t. I can talk this stupid face off, but you’re the writer. That is a skill that you have worked to refine.

Darren Sumner:
We have our own skills. You are extremely good at what you do.

David Read:
I think that’s why we complement each other. You could have created so many news articles, so many YouTube pages, and you wouldn’t budge. You were like, I could say, “New Stargate here, new Stargate here, new Stargate here, new Stargate here.” And there are some people today who are going to have a bit of egg on their face because I think that there are a few YouTube viewers out there who have been scammed. And you are the journalist. You went, we both have degrees in journalism, but you knew to hold the line, and if there isn’t a secondary source for this, we’re not going to release this. And you, I know, could’ve used the money for all of those clicks and those thousands and thousands of views that some people got.

Darren Sumner:
You know this, it’s still worth saying, GateWorld needs to be a trusted name.

David Read:
That’s exactly right, but no one deserved it more than you.

Darren Sumner:
People need to know that when they see it on GateWorld that it’s …

David Read:
That it’s legit.

Darren Sumner:
… that it’s trustworthy.

David Read:
Yup, exactly right.

Darren Sumner:
Thank you, I appreciate that.

David Read:
But no one deserves this more than you do. And this really was for you.

Darren Sumner:
For all of us.

David Read:
But you got to be the one to release this to the world. It makes sense that you started this brand, and they have given you a huge gift, and I hope it continues to pay off in dividends because–

Darren Sumner:
Martin and Brad and Joe gave us, gave GateWorld a huge gift.

David Read:
They didn’t have to.

Darren Sumner:
I was hoping that I would be able to get a hold of the press release …

David Read:
Early?

Darren Sumner:
… at the same time.

David Read:
Or at the same time?

Darren Sumner:
The same time as the major news outlets. I did not expect GateWorld to be able to break this news. GateWorld was first this morning with this news. And also, for Martin to include us in the announcement? Astounding. I never would’ve hoped for that in a million years.

David Read:
Not at all. So, thanks, guys.

Darren Sumner:
So, thank you to Martin and those guys.

David Read:
There aren’t words. Still processing it. We gotta let these people go. They’ve gotta get back down to Earth. The point is–

Darren Sumner:
You guys, we’ve been going for two and a half hours?

David Read:
Destiny’s been in the void for 14 years and it’s time to hit a new galaxy, and we’re gonna do it globally together. Back tomorrow at 9:00 AM Pacific time?

Darren Sumner:
9:00 AM Pacific time tomorrow, on Thursday. We’re gonna have some other fans on and continue to chat about the big news. If we can’t make that one live, Friday afternoon. Why don’t you go ahead and pull up my livestream schedule now?

David Read:
I shall do that.

Darren Sumner:
And I’ll go back to my chat. IntrepidChimp gave us $5 and said, “Wanted to recommend the David Hewlett livestreams in case people were unaware.”

David Read:
Yes, Dave!

Darren Sumner:
“Just found him at random scrolling through lives.” David Hewlett is streaming science and Stargate and nerddom all the time.

David Read:
Can we park this for a second and check him out? Nerddom? Is it two Ds? Nerddom, or nerdom? I don’t know. Google it.

Darren Sumner:
If you’re taking that from me, I’m just making up the word nerddom.

David Read:
Where’s David’s channel?

Darren Sumner:
What’s his channel name these days? Is it D Hewlett?

David Read:
I don’t know.

Darren Sumner:
Is it D Geek?

David Read:
We haven’t talked in a while.

Darren Sumner:
He used to go by Geek. Google him.

David Read:
I am.

Darren Sumner:
John Ueldin with another £4.99, “This is like Christmas come early. You rascals, I can’t wait until Sunday for my watch party. Atlantis is going on tonight.” Guys, this is the time. Pick your favorite episode of Stargate and watch it tonight.

David Read:
dHewlett.

Darren Sumner:
We are vibing.

David Read:
Here we go. So, there have been few actors who have kept the light on like this guy has, and he is McKay, except he’s not. He’s actually …

Darren Sumner:
He’s nicer.

David Read:
… not an A-hole, and he’s a wonderful human being, and please give him some love over on YouTube at dHewlett, and it looks like canerdian.com here, and some other stuff as well. He’s doing Tech Bandits, which is kind of a science show, and it’s geared more towards youth. The coolest stuff this guy has been involved in. Please give him a subscription and like, because you know him, you love him. He’s gonna make your days full with a lot of cool bits of knowledge. He’s talking about leveraging so much of the content that exists now, and sharing new technology with fans like 3D printers, and he makes science fun. He’s not afraid to go waist deep and say, “Well, let’s try this and see what’ll happen here.” He’s played with AI, and I’ll put his– Darren, if we can both put his link in the description below as well because Hewlett needs some props, and he’s always kept Stargate front and center in terms of the audience that he’s the audiences that he’s communicating with the most. So, thank you, David, for keeping the light on.

Darren Sumner:
Thank you, David. And he’s OG. He was one of the first people I met when I visited the Atlantis set for the first time. And he was welcoming and wanted to sit down and have a good tech chat.

David Read:
Great guy. Need me to pull up your slate now?

Darren Sumner:
So, we’ve got that scheduled coming–

[no audio]

David Read:
… Allan is an Australian fan, and he was responsible, along with a team of people, for bringing Gatecon to us over the years. Gatecon is my first and best convention home, and this is all that’s on the portal right now, gatecon.com. Please, guys, bring the best Stargate convention in the world back.

Darren Sumner:
Take a pause here. Would you double check your audio settings? I’m getting several comments in chat that the audio’s out.

David Read:
They’re not hearing– I’m not being heard at all? Oh, boy.

Darren Sumner:
No sound, lost audio. Audio is back. Jeff says audio is back. Guys, can you hear us both?

David Read:
Testing, one, two. That’s very weird. You can hear me, but they can’t. How is it now?

Darren Sumner:
OK. Can you hear David? He says it works now.

David Read:
It’s gonna take a few seconds to ripple through. How far do I need to go back?

Darren Sumner:
Five by five. We didn’t hear anything for the last few minutes.

David Read:
Oh, no.

Darren Sumner:
It’s back now.

David Read:
OK. You were talking for most of that. Ausgate.net, let me pull it up here. Allan Gowan’s web page, as an Aussie, A-U-S-G-A-T-E.net. You can go and check him out and his portal here. He’s got a lot of cool stuff. He’s one of the original creators of Gatecon. And that’s this portal here at gatecon.com. The original Stargate convention, and the best, and my home convention. No one does it like them. So, you can definitely check them out, and I am hoping that they will be back. There is a lot more Stargate convention heading our way, and no one deserves to be a part of it more than Gatecon. They really do. Some things that happened to them in the past weren’t very fair. Some bigger entities with bigger money came in and cut them out of some things, and it just wasn’t right. As much as I love those other conventions.

Darren Sumner:
OK, so chat is saying that the audio cut out when you went to my schedule and to the Ausgate screen, so maybe we don’t have audio set up for those scenes in OBS. So, let me recap.

David Read:
I see what I did. I triggered end titles down here. Sorry, guys. Apologies for that. I will fix that. I’m sorry. Wasting your time there. I know what happened.

Darren Sumner:
If you have audio on that, the recap is Thursday morning, the live stream with fans is gonna be co-streamed on both channels. Friday afternoon, the live stream is gonna be co-streamed on both channels. Dial the Gate has more content coming up. I’m gonna be on more of those shows on Dial the Gate. But then here on GateWorld, we’re doing livestream casual fan hangouts every other Friday. So, the second fan round table is gonna be this week’s live fan hangout. And then December 5th, we’re gonna have Allan Gowan from Ausgate and Gatecon. And then on December 19th, we’re gonna talk with David specifically about Dial the Gate Season Five as that comes to a close.

David Read:
So, plenty of Stargate love is heading your way. I think we kept them long enough.

Darren Sumner:
All right, you guys gotta quit sending Superchats so we can let you get out of here. Bible Crusader gave $5 and says, “Is there a place to download the ship model you used? I’d like to build one of the ships in Minecraft. Thanks for keeping Stargate alive.”

David Read:
The ship model that I used? They are not–

Darren Sumner:
I don’t know what you would need for Minecraft.

David Read:
Is he talking about our models at the beginning of Dial the Gate?

Darren Sumner:
I don’t know.

David Read:
Those are internal, but that doesn’t mean that someone can’t build them. I can certainly talk with a few folks who might have that conversation. But those are proprietary. The other thing that I wanted to bring up, and it’s fallen right out of my fron. That was funny. It’ll come to me later. But the fact of the matter is that we’re back, and there’s a lot to do. We’ve got a big show tomorrow with fans. I need to start sending some emails out to let the, especially the podcasters who were shown today, know that they’re going to be involved. Do you have anything else to say, buddy, before we wrap it up?

Darren Sumner:
Come back tomorrow or Friday or both, guys, ’cause we’ve got a lot more to talk about. There’s more about this new show from Martin Gero to talk about. But we’re gonna step aside for the next two livestreams and let other fans have their say. Lots of folks that you’ve seen on Dial the Gate, on GateWorld, on Wormhole X-Tremists over the years. We’re gonna have lots of friends come through, podcasters, new people that we’re just meeting from the Stargate fan community, and give them space over the next two days to talk about, Brother, there is a new Stargate coming.

David Read:
“There is?” Brad was so funny. He was like, “What?” “You should know that by now.” That was funny.

Darren Sumner:
So, in the intro video, which you can watch now on GateWorld and on Prime Video, on YouTube, we recorded this thing right after they had told us that it was happening. Gero makes the announcement in the recording and we’re not freaking out like we did the first time we heard it.

David Read:
Are we supposed to not know about this? We’re not that good of actors.

Darren Sumner:
Though Brad gave the shocked reaction.

David Read:
It was great. It was really cute.

Darren Sumner:
So, go watch that. Go watch the announcement video. It’s about seven minutes long. Martin is gonna tell you in his own words what his vision is for the show. And then I also have a news video that you can watch right after that on GateWorld’s YouTube channel, breaking down what’s going on, who’s involved, and what they might do. But again, we got so much to talk about. We’re gonna need months.

David Read:
That’s it.

Darren Sumner:
We’re gonna need all this production time where they’re actually making the show. We’re gonna need that just to process this and what it might be.

David Read:
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. From Marcia Middleton, “Will the fan roundtables be viewable after they air as well as replays?” Always. These will be live, and we will start piecing together things to make that work. So, I may have a way of squeezing in a few more people, Darren, if you and I don’t have to be on screen at the same time always, if we really wanna give fans a voice. One of us tag-team out …

Darren Sumner:
Sure.

David Read:
… with the other three quadrants available. That just came to me. I don’t know why I didn’t think of that before. Let’s do that. All right, guys. Anything else on your end, buddy? Scrooge McDuff?

Darren Sumner:
Thank you, everybody, for being here. We’re still sitting over 400 viewers, so I think there is energy. There is excitement. People are as jazzed about this as you and I are. So, let’s keep it rolling. This week is Stargate Fan Celebration Week.

David Read:
100%. Samuel Cockings is a great 3D artist. My in-house guy, EagleSG, Matt, is the one who is responsible for all of our openings. But we gave it to Sam to close it, and we used this for remembering Don S. Davis, which, if you’ve got three hours, I highly recommend, especially if you loved Don. Go and check that one out in the Dial the Gate archive. This is a reprise for it here. I wanted the Hammond to send us out again, and meet a familiar friend. So, that’s what’s going to wrap up the show. Thank you, Sam, again, for making that possible. Darren, anything else you wanna say?

Darren Sumner:
Stargate Chris just gave us five A dollars. What’s A? Australian dollars?

David Read:
AUD?

Darren Sumner:
A$5. Thank you, Stargate Chris. Glad you’re here. Glad you’re part of the Stargate community.

David Read:
Yes. Absolutely. Thank you so much.

Darren Sumner:
I hope to see you guys tomorrow. Not everybody can make it on Thursday. If we don’t see you tomorrow morning, hopefully we’ll see you on Friday afternoon. But there’s more to do, more to talk about.

David Read:
We’re gonna be picking some representatives from you. They won’t be at random. There’s no way that we can get in everyone who has helped us along this way. I do apologize for that upfront. But we’re gonna see what we can do. Things are gonna be fast, so please be patient with us. But it’s gonna be fun.

Darren Sumner:
It’ll be fun.

Darren Sumner:
There will be technical difficulties, but it’ll be fun.

David Read:
Oh my God. So many. If you think today was bad, just wait. But we’re gonna let you go now.

Darren Sumner:
Thank you, David.

David Read:
Darren, buddy, you are my brother.

Darren Sumner:
Hey, we’re back.

David Read:
Are we gonna, like Thelma and Louise this thing?

Darren Sumner:
Gonna drive off the cliff at the end?

David Read:
I think we’ve been in midair. I think we’re now hitting the ground and we’re OK.

Darren Sumner:
It’s feeling freefall. It’s been freefall for a few years.

David Read:
I love you, man.

Darren Sumner:
But everything’s coming up Milhouse.

David Read:
This is terrific. I’m so glad to be with you on this journey. I have been so energized the past several days working with you as much as I have. Martin said to us before we let them go, “It’s like all these years hadn’t passed,” in terms of their working relationship with each other, with Brad and Joe, what Martin said. And it’s the same with you. To get to cover a franchise here with a person that I trust, who gave me my big break, starting off in the Stargate Omnipedia, which still needs to be completed, by the way. Never gotten over that. Thank you for it, and I can’t wait to work with you on whatever comes next in whatever form it might take. I’m ride or die.

Darren Sumner:
Thank you.

David Read:
All right, brother. That’s what we’ve got here for you on GateWorld and Dial the Gate. That was our first livestream. Please click the Like button on GateWorld and Dial the Gate’s live feeds. Subscribe to us if you want to see more. Click the Bell icon if you wanna be notified the moment a new video gets up, and you’ll also get my notifications of any last-minute guest changes. Clips from this show will probably be appearing in different formats over the next few weeks. My tremendous thanks to my moderating team. Darren, can you believe I wasn’t about to thank them? My producers who have stood beside me every step of the way, Antony Rawling, Kevin Weaver, Sommer Roy, Brice Ors, and Jakub Olejarz is now a producer as well. My moderating team, it’s a lot of the same folks, Antony, Jeremy, Kevin, Lockwatcher, Marcia, Raj, and Jakub. I couldn’t have made it this far to 370 without you. And God knows where this ends. We have so many more Stargate stories to gather. And we’re gonna do that together. Thanks tremendously to Matt EagleSG Wilson for his amazing opening sequences, to Samuel for the closing sequences, and Frederick Marcoux over at ConceptsWeb who has been so good to me to keep dialthegate.com up and running. Hopefully he’s not gonna be so overwhelmed by ’em. It’s time to get this girl a new paint job. But check out dialthegate.com and you can go in and read the transcripts. If you find errors, there’s a portal to submit them. So, if you are a reader and you don’t wanna watch the shows that we’ve done with the cast and crew over video, that’s the place to find it. We’re building a permanent archive. And one day, Darren and I do wanna write a book, and it’s gonna be a book probably full of a lot of quotations. Much like Chevrons Locked that came out a couple of years ago. Go to Amazon.com and put it in, Chevrons Locked. Darren, my brain is escaping me. Who wrote that?

Darren Sumner:
Chevrons Locked? Ed Gross.

David Read:
Ed Gross, thank you. I’m sorry, Ed. I collaborated on this. Let’s give him a shout-out real quick.

Darren Sumner:
I got one in reach. You wanna put me back on?

David Read:
Here it is. Yes, please. All right.

Darren Sumner:
There it is.

David Read:
What a great piece of art. It is …

Darren Sumner:
Beautiful book.

David Read:
… quotes …

Darren Sumner:
Hardback.

David Read:
… from Brad Wright.

Darren Sumner:
The oral history of Stargate in their own words.

David Read:
That’s right. And it is a great compendium. He ran with it. His 50-year mission is extraordinary. It covers Star Trek, he’s done Battlestar.

Darren Sumner:
The two-volume Star Treks.

David Read:
It was great. It’s an audiobook. That’s what I’m wanting to do with Dial the Gate, except much more detail. Make it into a book that strips out all the non-Stargate content and pulls it all together to make it a true oral history of the television and movie production. That’s all I’m gonna say about that. Thank you, Darren.

Darren Sumner:
Your archive is searchable. It’s going to get even more granular in its searchability.

David Read:
It’s one of the few things that I’m …

Darren Sumner:
A really amazing resource.

David Read:
… really looking forward to AI helping me find the grains of sand that I need from that heap. And I need a team of people to do it, ’cause no one goes it alone. It takes a village. If you wanna help out, email Darren for GateWorld at [email protected] if you wanna help me out in any of the stuff that I’ve mentioned. Thank you so much. Give me some time to respond. I see a couple of people already have.

Darren Sumner:
Give us some time.

David Read:
[email protected].

Darren Sumner:
I have about seven emails in my inbox, so there you go.

David Read:
There we go. Thank you so much. All right.

Darren Sumner:
[email protected].

David Read:
Thank you. That’s Darren Sumner with GateWorld, and I’m David Read for Dial the Gate. I appreciate you all tuning in. We’re really excited to take this journey with you.

Darren Sumner:
Thank you, David.

David Read:
And we’re gonna bring as many of you into the boat as we can. This one’s for all of us. I’ll see you on the other side. Bye-bye, everybody.